eVo not giving money away?
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15 Feb 2011, 18:52
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great organization from impact and great management?
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=poll&mode=item&id=536#comment39523
??? triple EC winners and multiple NC winrarz dont get money what was promised??
the fuck is this shit? you organize a cup and u dont pay the prizes?
great community member...
admin edit: I don't care whether or not this is a valid discussion, but keep it civil or the journal is a goner.
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=poll&mode=item&id=536#comment39523
??? triple EC winners and multiple NC winrarz dont get money what was promised??
the fuck is this shit? you organize a cup and u dont pay the prizes?
great community member...
admin edit: I don't care whether or not this is a valid discussion, but keep it civil or the journal is a goner.
impact = gay wnb pro gaming esports club (low- xDDDD)
impact = gayming
read throught the link that dunz posted and you will see that those 12 euros re not even slightly relevant to all that...
conclusion: eVo is not so nice
He is what is wrong with this community.
BEST COMMENT IN THE THREAD.
I'm still missing unpaid prizemoney from a certain LAN event and the sum isn't that substantial to me (lots more than 12 euros anyway), but back then I would've really appreciated it to cover the costs it took me to participate in that event..
Also I have to say that I find your comment really odd, because I don't see how any honest guy can talk about going after money people owe you like that (using impressions like "bitching about unpaid prizemoney" and "cry for it"). Atleast I get the impression that you think that it's okey to not pay the prizemoney you've promised.
What wonders me the most tho, is that the Finns (MM,dickmans, fin5, etc) often whine about unpaid prizes or missing financial support altho they do not show any commitment for the game like attending LAN events, representing ET in big MGCs, being polite and honest on Crossfire and such. Except for VAE there was not a single all Finnish lineup attending any LAN I could tell of. Also the behavior is far from being professional as instead of discussing those money issues in private you often read these endless dialogues on CF. Additionally I could mention the whine about not getting into decent orgs combinded with all the "trolling" from Finns. After reading Samples and Ensams comments right after getting kicked from Epsilon one could well understand why they did not get the support they wanted. You can not even divide between mature Finnish teams anymore and the "retarded" rest. As seemingly all Finns play or have played in KRP for example. Those guys who do not treat others with respect and professionalism are the ones wanting money.
But as this is going off topic and I mention things that generalize a big group of players without enough knowledge I'll stop here. Didn't want to offend anyone, just stating my thoughts.
professional :D
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I just wanted to point out that there are atleast a few finns who are still missing unpaid prizemoney despite showing commitment to the game by attending LANs, representing ET in big MGCs and being honest and polite on CF like you listed.
Oh and I can tell from experience that it doesen't always help even if you're as professional as possible about trying to handle the case of missing prizemoney. Sad that it seems to have happened in this game so often. Would be great to see some professionalism from the organizers aswell..
Anyway, if i would be evo, it would be a pleasure for me to pay MM the money while saying "h3h3 we both know, if you would have come to lan, your ass would get raped anyway" ":D"!
over and out
Edit:
Sorry bo, you just wrote your comment while i wrote mine ;€
this all happened how long ago? and still you go on, and on, and on, and on....when will this madness end! WHEN! see you on a thread in another 4 years time to dig all this boring fucking shite up again....
And even if I wrote that I'd like to see you writing and speaking a proper German or Swiss-German.
"Dont worry Hassam, dont worry! soon we will win this computer game cup and we can pay back all these Vesuvios"
doesnt matter how retarded u think they are, if you think they cheat or whatever reason
the cup sais top 3 get paid. that means top 3 get paid.
if people in sport didnt get paid because they are idiots then not many people in sport would get paid.
no, you dont.
at least he tried to do a bit of sponsorship and host a cup or two. till you do the same and do it better, you can say exactly fuck all, cos youve got fuck all to back up what you're saying.
Note: I don't give a fuck, eVo has his reasons, and although I don't understand them (to a point) thats really the end of it.
if you disagree with that statement then u need ur head checked. U cannot not pay someone for any reason if they legitimately win the prize. Frankly its against the Law to do that. Thers no way ET will get more active if the prizes people are playing for are not given to the players.
Its these actions that kill ET. Imagine if Andy Murray wins Wimbledon this year and at the ceremony they say sorry u didnt win the cup or the half a million cash prize but hers a handshake.
Ive won sport tournaments,ive run sports tournaments and some people act retarded and get angry because they didnt win the finals. They still get the prize they won.
mind and his cool gang tried to be all clever and make an arse out of evo cos he stated the rules , from the start of the tourney remember, that the final would be for lan. if you werent attending the lan, you never got into the playoffs. dont think thats too hard to grasp, even for fins :D
they went on and on and on so much, evo, to keep the peace, agreed to pay them what they would have got for 3rd. mind fucked it all up. they got fuck all. UNLUCKY imo.
and you can hardly call anything to do with et E-Sports ffs. its a game full of trolls and haxxors! :D can you see andy murray going to collect his 2nd place, and going "haha you fucking wnb nerd" to the guy that beats him?
you could list all the pro football players and all their fucking retarded actions off the pitch and on it. Fights, abuse, sleeping with other peoples wifes. Constantly drinking to much. All still get paid.
Ye it sucks dealing with people that act retarded. Online its easy to just say wel... im not paying you if you behave like that. The reason eVo can say that is because hes not constantly dealing with them in person.
If eVo was a Chelsea Manager and his team was masculine mans. if they won the premiership and he didnt pay their weeks wages on the last game because they acted retarded after the game.
Ye u can say they had no intention of going to lan which is obvious to everyone with half a brain those fools will never go to lan. So either completely ban them from entering the competion, dont let them enter then say
wel...... u werent going to lan anyway so im not paying u. U just sound like a 10 yaer old kid not wanting to give someone your gameboy to play with.
IT IS COMPLETELY UP TO THE PLAYERS HOW TO SPEND THE MONEY AND WHERE THE MONEY GOES. if they want to wire it to some jewish kid in isreal thats up to them. They won the money fair and get to choose what to do with it.
the guy who hands andy murray the check for winning wimbledon isnt going to say , you need to tell me exactly where your depositing this money and exacly how your going to spend it or you cant have it.
what the fuck?
rofl eVo... it doesnt matter if they want the money to go to Santa Claus, they won the money and its up to them where it goes. Doesnt matter if Mind was banned he didnt win the money ensam and teammates did. Ensam asked for the money to go to mind so hes perfectly entitled to get the money sent to mind.
When i won a sports tournament and i asked the money to be wired into an account. They dont care wether its my account or a 10 year old kids accounts from pakistan. I won the money and its up to me what happends to it.
then when i said yea sure and sent it he then came back and said errr now send mine and i was like wtf who did i just send that to??
then i said i want to hear from the rest of the players before i send any more money thats the most normal thing to do ever!!!
I fail to believe Ensam is that retarded , even for him. Its like buying something from a shop then picking up the same item and wanting it free. Noone on earth is that retarded.
but still if ensam wanted his 12 euros to go to mind thats fine. U still shell out the rest of the amount to the players.
Again i fail to see how not 1 of them pmd u to ask about the money. Obviously They talked with Ensam and wanted the money to go into his and minds accounts if none of the others pmd u.
how about if our players contact you now? will you pay?
how about if our players contact you now? will you pay?
- you trick me initially into sending what i thought was your money to you but was actually chmpp's to be sent to mind
- you then dont follow my instructions to get the players to contact me with regards to their money
- you then flame the hell out of me
- you then create journals to flame me and try to embaress me whereby you comment with more and more flame
- you then say so now if we do what i originally asked are you going to pay?
Is that the gist of it?
if you kick teams from your cup, call them cheaters without any proof and dont pay them you will usually get flamed.
secondly i never once got contacted by your players
thirdly you specifically asked me for your 12 euros, not for chmpp's you just said can i get mine and i will get the others to contact you, then i found out that was someone else's after you told me it was transferred to mind someone who was banned from the tournament so your trust levels went straight out the window.
my comments to reload were in a private conversation i never once publicly came out and said it, it was my personal opinion and something i am allowed to have, to accuse you would assume i came out publicly and did it which i never!!!
As far as i am concerned your behaviour was and remains shocking yet i am expected to remain professional..... makes me laugh!!!
my behavior doesn't have anything to do with the fact you owe us prize money - lets not play the victim card here.
I'm positive that i told me players to contact you - it's irrelevant whether they did or not since it can still be done if you are willing to pay us which you obviously are not.
i still can't see how it matters if you trust me or not if the only thing you are required to do is transfer the money we won.
but yeah, I agree with you on that.
<mamut|RELOAd> then we could play all matches on lan
<mamut|RELOAd> isnt this the best idea?
<eVo`ETM> yes it is
<eVo`ETM> but i cant just kick them
<mamut|RELOAd> well they are hacking anyway
<eVo`i> we reckon your the only ones who can beat Mans
<eVo`i> and we want a lan final
<eVo`i> not some hacking fins
On the other hand some of these fins especially mind act like stupid brain cripples here that never added anything positive and have been retards since someone started to recognize them so giving money to these or this idiot(s) is something i wouldnt like to do either.
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im not sayin ure wrong tho, ofc he should send the moneyz