pepe on alves was dark yellow or red
adebayor running into someone i think busquets towards the end was red
marcelo stepping on pepe could have been red too
and after that red, could of been easly a yellow only as he went for ball and yet missed, would be totally diffrent game, after that the game just crashed and real didnt even bother to put any fight into game foward.
Thing is,he is a great coach,he need to try play a nice football with his teams,not only try to destroy it,he made a great semifinal a boring game with his tactic...for once play and try to win mr mourinho.
you're not worthy enough for me to speak about football with you (since you don't know a shit about what it is really.) now go to bed before you develop more nonscence here...
wtf x) using noob in a comon discussion. please xD
I'l stop arguingwith you, since you're a stupid moron without any basic knowledge of the game.
peace.
not sayng we deserved, we played crap. 0-0 would have been more fair, but the red card did screw up our 'gameplan' so to speak. We would go offensive last 20
'"Our scheme had different stages for different moments in the game. We had to play together and then use a centre forward. Then I would use a number '10' behind the two forwards. It is the scheme for a 0-0 game, trying to capitalise on the frustration of our opponent. But the referee didn't let us unfold our plan. Barcelona's power should have been simply of a football nature. They have that power. Why use more?'
Real are a great team, and they proved that very recently against Barca. But last night they where 2nd best. Stats show it, and it seemed that way in the game (not that I profess to know much about football).
I do not think that in the heat of that match, and so many deserved yellows (on both sides) not given, this should have been yellow and maybe a clear warning. As you can see from several .gifs and replays here, Pepe did not even hit the very theatrical alves (screaming before anything hit him btw) Therefore, it is my believe that it was yellow max. and it would have been if not for the comedy and the ref surrounding by barca. Wouldve been a whole different game then but hey, its barcas tactics innit. dive their way out of big matches.
It's not all about if you hit him or not it is also about what is the intention of pepe he didn't even go straight to the ball.. he just wanted to he dani alves.
And yes stark had to give more yellows but i think he did a good job if he gaved all the cards that i think was yellow or red than thay played mayby 7vs4....
cards for dives and card asking included? minus bullshit yellows to arbs? The ball was in his reach and he was chasing it because they had possesion in that case. they know barca dives so why give them reason? they are smarter. If he really wanted alves' leg, barca would have had one defender less for the coming season,considering what a beast of a man pepe is.
e: how did you like peek-a-booskets tackle in the cdr final? same case, but heat of the game -> consistent ref -> no card.
yellow would have been correcter
mostly not? out of all the times a barca player died or facegrabbed yesterday AND in the CDR final, one situation was questionnable and i will therefore consider it as justified (adebayor yesterday -> clearer red than pepe imo). May wanna rephrase that
when someone pads you in the shoulder, or tummy, and you fall down crying and grabbing your face, that is a schwalbe. It's spelled schwalbe by the way. but from your english i can deduce that you havent started taking language classes at school. maybe when your finally 16!
another invalid point. what are you trying to achieve by pointing that at me?
I don't expect you to believe me. I couldn't care less about your future little man; If you don't think you will need english in your future (and in your future bussiness) that go ahead. I'm not gonna stop you from throwing away a valuable asset.
bussiness partners/international big clients and what not would surely be convinced and impressed of your intelligence and effort speaking to and adressing them like that.
should be easy 0-0 at least, as the real had the pressure over the 2nd part of 1st half and until the red card has been given the teams were equal and there could happen anything till the end of match, win of real, win of barca or just ended with tie, but after the red card for pepe and morinho it was obviously real didnt botherd to play till end properly...
they play aggresive game, and by the first link on my topic i showed u, u can see barca doesnt play so much diffrent, apart from that real's players doesnt cry for each foult and lay on ground for 5 min just to get oppo's red...
Every comment you have made in this thread shows you know jack shit about football/spanish football nor Real OR Barca in general. You are probably some shit dutchie guy that supports them because everybody does, but havent actually seen them or anything. Please crawl back into whatever whole you came from with your bullshit comments about a marcelo red. Replays clearly show marcelo only has eye for the ball. (he wouldnt mind pedro being there) but the intention? nah. The guy you are replying to is making more sense than you ever could, and i don't say this cuz hes a madridista.
I think i have watched more match than u.
As a referee you have to think in the game but you dont know that because you only watch footbal at the tv and you are to bad to play it.
im 1000% sure ive watched more than you, spanish football in particular. Ive played football AND futsal myself for 15 years now so none of the points you made are valid. thanks for showing the community what a retard you are. Talk about tactics, the tactics were spot on. but barca's plan B codenamed 'dive in important games' worked aswell
you are just clueless kid. I mean, you are making zero valid points, are an amateur football player who think hes more of a mastermind that mourinho and are not at all trying to discuss matters in a mature way, proving you know shit about anything. Im just gonna consider you a I-support-barca-cuz-everyone-does-even-tho-i-know-shit-about-them person and stop replying to you, since you are a retarded dumb troll that is merely pissing me off.
more like, u dont know to reply after and u are being a retard cuz nothing else is left for u and just for info i have played football for 5 years active and still playing it, so cut the crap and dont reply next time if u got nothing proper to say.
haha lol, ur talking like u would be somekind of manager or pro player, yet ur just another wannabe trying to act smart on teh internet, proven by all ur tarded comment...
hah no u got no clue about it, as ur just talking some crap, having no clue how either of these teams plays, as i have follow all of the real and barca matches for years and i know how they play, so cut it off and dont tend to be smart cuz u got again, no clue how they play.
the link i showed u should watch before posting this senseless comments and it would spare me time to waste it on this replys made to, as u can cleary see that barca doesnt play much diffrent than real does when it comes down to agressive game.
The classico that real madrid lost with 5-0 they try to football but they just cant admin barca. and ofcoure its smart to play like handball but i as football fan dont like it.
rofl, the classico they lost was cuz the team was brand new, with no teamplay and other stuffs, we saw at last 2 matches how they played and again yday's match was obviously fked up by ref, otherwise real wouldnt have lost by 0:2. And yeh we saw when real had still that stable team, how barca couldnt stand a chance vs them... give morinho time to make team properly and to get teamwork and they will do it again, mark my words.
the thing is, u cannot play barca's game without teamplay, go check past how real played, and u will see that they played properly with open game and barca didnt stand chance vs them, the thing is, real is now new builded team with no teamplay ( yet for now ) meaning, they cannot play same game as barca does, cuz they have stable team for years now and real had lots of changes so they need to work on this first.... they played football just in diffrent way, reason morinho is one of the finest, as he know which tacs to use at particular time. And i agree with u at last sentense, neither i didnt liked the way real played the game vs barca, cuz im used of them to play open game with offensive mode, not somekind of defense mod, but they just didnt had a choice to do for now, so it was the only way for them..
Give them some time, and they will do it as they did at past... off to lunch, cu.
More than one season for sure. signs of improvement and 'gelling' will be there next year and the year(s) after that. New team, new coach, new tactic, new project. It's also a very talented, but young team, lacking some experience. Ozil, khedira, higuain, benzema, marcelo, ramos (k experience) Di maria, all players under the age of 24. Good future ahead. It needs time and they aren't doing to bad so far.
adebayor running into someone i think busquets towards the end was red
marcelo stepping on pepe could have been red too
real didnt deserve to win with their boring game
do u even fking know what ur writing????
and after that red, could of been easly a yellow only as he went for ball and yet missed, would be totally diffrent game, after that the game just crashed and real didnt even bother to put any fight into game foward.
it was a red card and not a yellow one.
PUTA BARCA PUTA BARCA!
he prolly couldn't sleep for weeks, cause he was preparing the ultimate tactic for barcelona's death
I'l stop arguingwith you, since you're a stupid moron without any basic knowledge of the game.
peace.
go to bed ignorant peace of trash. i'm out YO.
ps: you should do the same, you would know more of the world and look less retarded.
Face hurts and mass appealing to cards..
GG, you've ruined this great sport
'"Our scheme had different stages for different moments in the game. We had to play together and then use a centre forward. Then I would use a number '10' behind the two forwards. It is the scheme for a 0-0 game, trying to capitalise on the frustration of our opponent. But the referee didn't let us unfold our plan. Barcelona's power should have been simply of a football nature. They have that power. Why use more?'
And yes stark had to give more yellows but i think he did a good job if he gaved all the cards that i think was yellow or red than thay played mayby 7vs4....
e: how did you like peek-a-booskets tackle in the cdr final? same case, but heat of the game -> consistent ref -> no card.
yellow would have been correcter
But they overdo it that's right.
I don't expect you to believe me. I couldn't care less about your future little man; If you don't think you will need english in your future (and in your future bussiness) that go ahead. I'm not gonna stop you from throwing away a valuable asset.
I said u dont need to speak english fluently.
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=126487
u play football, not some ballet shit jeez
Real play aggresive let me rofl..
U never played soccer i see don't talk about something where you dont know about ok thnx.
As a referee you have to think in the game but you dont know that because you only watch footbal at the tv and you are to bad to play it.
Futsall is whole other thing than foorball.
come back when your balls start dropping kid.
Maybe u know that basic but you dont know shit about tactics.
e: just to shut u up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0HgHyCegmw&feature=player_embedded
nuff said.
But i know more about football that u that's clearly.
the link i showed u should watch before posting this senseless comments and it would spare me time to waste it on this replys made to, as u can cleary see that barca doesnt play much diffrent than real does when it comes down to agressive game.
Give them some time, and they will do it as they did at past... off to lunch, cu.