RIP.........

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Rest in peace youngsters... Sick world

http://edition.cnn.com/

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/23/norway.explosion/index.html?hpt=T1


"One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests.”
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can't understand shit.. what is it? where is it? :\ what's happening?
Norway, spreekiller. at least 84 killed by him.
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i dont get it. How could he alone kill 84 people? Were they just standing and waiting for him?
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700 people in a small island, where would you go
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He attacked a social democratist party youth summer camp, which was being held on an island.
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+automatic weapon... and he had police suite on him... he called the youngsters to gather around him... he said that he is just making sure that everything is okay after the bombings
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fucked up world :(
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he did not have an automatic weapon though, afaig
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killed over 80 person with not automatic weapon? why didnt they strike him down
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Because of the way a "proper" massacre is done, which VERY rarely happens, but here it was.

If many of the victims rushed him they would surely have been able to take him down, automatic or not.

But during a shock situation, most people panic and try to flee or hide.

UNLESS there is one or several authorative figures that can take command over the situations and give orders.

At a political camp, such as that, it is expected that there will be several with such an attribute.

But the shooter seemed very studied on the matter and as far as I can tell, acted by the tactical principles of crowd controll, homicide and massacre.

And therefore most of the authorative figures was slaughtered first.
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pretty sure that first pic is taken from another context
voi olla, mut tol kaveril kans vaaleet hiukset (?) ja näyttäis mahdollisesti poliisien virka-asulta tjsp
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lost the source already so maybe i was just imaging it
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The picture is from utøya it was taken from a NRK1 News chopper
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need CSI / MENTALIST GUYS CMon
he is alive because he played dead, grabbing on to bodies around him, WTF!?!

crazy world! :o
i will protect you :~>
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why do all northern/eastern europe countrys have mad killing sprees atleast once a year, totally fucked up mongols
I think there are more to come... Norway is supporting NATO with bombings in Libya... Finland has peacekeepers in Afganistan and so does Sweden... So I think Al Qaida will be terrorisinz here at northern countries soon... There are very high suicide ratings per year in Finland aswell...

I have no idea why... Some school bullied youngsters were shooting at school couple of times in last 5 years...

And still Finland is just getting more and more refugees here to rape innocent women and rob places...
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thats what i mean were always hearing alot of things like this on UK news networks, cant believe half the stuff that actually goes on :/
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Shit's fucked up.
Norwegian police says witnesses saw a second shooter, not in police uniform.
Some witnesses and surviors are saying they have heard gunfire from 2 diffrent places and have seen 2 diffrent persons shooting.

atm 84 confirmed killed at Utøya and 7 in oslo. Police are saying that there is a connection with the bombing in oslo and the shooting at Utøya. The bomb in oslo was made from fertilizer and the guy who got caught had 6 tonns for fertilizer on the farm wich he owned.

They guy wont get mor then 21 years in prison as that is the maximum sentence in norway :/

Sad day :(
Still lying dead bodies on Utøya, fucking horrible to watch
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I can't even imagine such view, island full of bodies, worse than anything :(
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:'( I know a Norway youngman, who's friend of my brother, and he's fucking sad about this... I'm sad about all this dead, killed because of a stupid fucking man... Seriously, my brain visualizes a such terrible massacre and it makes me like wow... :(
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What about forvaring?

QuoteI dom på forvaring skal retten fastsette en tidsramme som vanligvis ikke bør overstige 15 år, og ikke kan overstige 21 år. Etter begjæring fra påtalemyndigheten kan retten likevel ved dom forlenge den fastsatte rammen med inntil 5 år av gangen. Sak om forlengelse reises ved tingretten senest tre måneder før forvaringstidens utløp. Det bør også fastsettes en minstetid for forvaringen som ikke må overstige 10 år. Forvaring er i dag det eneste virkemidlet det norske rettsvesenet har til disposisjon for å idømme lovbrytere en reell livstidsdom, da det ikke er noen øvre grense for en slik doms varighet.
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Most likley yeh. But the sentence wont be "forvaring" . Hope he gets beaten up in jail everyday!
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He will, without doubt. I don't think "ordinary" criminals take too kindly to such things.
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21 years is the most yes, but he will be kept in prison for life cause of "forvaring".. which has no timelimit.
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wtf imagine he would have also spreaded those 6 tons of fertilizer somewhere in oslo.. srsly this guy is simply... dunno even a word to describe sth weird like this
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Yeah, just like Vargm8 who was put in for 21 years (though served 19) :-( fucking stupid but ofc this case is far far different :X
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saw from some movie/serie that some guilty guy was boiled after doing some crime.. dont remember which tho, i thought nobody would deserve to die like that, after reading this article i think otherwize
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sick :( ... rip
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duh, sad stuff anyway, 21 years max in prison? that sucks.
My grandma told me about it when I woke up. :| In all humanity, but this guy should starve to death or be burned alive.
This is just.... i dont have words.


The bomb he set off killed 7 people..

About 1,5 hours later, when every cop, firefighter and paramedic was busy working near the bomplace, he started to shoot young kids at a camp.

There was more than 700 kids at this island, and he killed more than 80 of them.


He walked around, calm.. shooting one after one, laughing and cheering while he did it..


The guy was later caught by the police, i have not heard anything about any suicide attempt, so it seems the guy wanted to kill as many as possible before he turned himself in..


The entire country is in shock.. i never thought anything like this could happend in Norway.. and atleast not by a norwegian guy.. wtf....
Are you/news sure it was the same person? Was your point about him casually going around laughing statement from an eyewitness/survivor or something?*

*Haven't read news today, just curious.
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He was behind both the bomb and the massacre yes, and regarding the part that he was laughing and cheering while killing the kids is words from survivors.

its tragical.. im just devestated.
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Ya, was aware about him being behind both, and ofc things more clear after 'release' of decleration of... by him. Just curious about the laughing part behind it all, could never understand this. But sure ye was devastating and can only imagine what it's like atm around there...
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this is some religious fanatic whould should be heavily sedated and wasn't diagnosed , that said yeah.. norway is the last place id expect this sort of stuff
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far right conservatist/nazi, nothing to do with religion, was probably a fan of full force frank looking at how he did it.
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A Nazi who's pro-Israel and a Freemason admiring Max Manus and Winston Churchill, yeah right...
But most important he was a bloody lunatic.
Trying to link this to any form of political ideology is simply stupid.


You can find a compilation of what he wrote on a conservative website:
http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.document.no%2Fanders-behring-breivik%2F


I hope he rots in hell.
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What he did might be dispicible and wrong, but that does not make him a lunatic, in the correct definition.
And his aligning with certain parties classifies him as a nazi in my eyes, despite what some gossip sheets says or whatever he has written on the internet.

furthermore RIP to those died and great condolences to those affected
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It had all to do with religion. He did it because of Islam.
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Well you could say that, but imho then you would have to say that everyone with nationalistic thoughts is religious. Hitler, Nyerere, Fichte, Bolivar, Mussolini, Mandela, Arafat etcetc.

Politics and religion is often intermixed, but I interpreted it as so to being a hit toward multi-culti. In his eyes anyone with distinguishable foreign traits equals Islamist.

Islamism and Islamist is confusing terms, because the definitions vary greatly depending on the pith and path it is put.

What I mean is, those points in his manifesto probably does not sieve on the religion, but the religion based politics.

It was his uses of "templar" that mostly makes me believe that. Unlike crusaders at those time, templars did not fight, most of the time, with religious intent and objective.
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He says that Islamism is slowly taking over the europe, which is correct btw... I judge the man by his acts, but I realise what he means by european countries getting multi-culturaped, specially northern countries...

The fact remains that not a single christian or jew lives in peace in the muslim world...

According to The New York Times, he called for


... a Christian war to defend Europe against the threat of Muslim domination... And acquaintances described him as a gun-loving Norwegian obsessed with what he saw as the threats of multiculturalism and Muslim immigration.


Right left muslim christian, it does not matter what type a fanatics is, their ability to rationalize anything is what makes them dangerous.

History has show this over and over and over.

Anyway... right wing politics + religion = the greatest impediment to human intellectual progress
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i was there 1 year agoo :(
urgh :sss
thats brutal
ive started to believe in 2012 lately, sad stuff going on :/
same, shits goin rly rly downhill lately
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I think theres gonna be shitloads of stuff happening before we even reach 2012 :D
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How come one guy can kill 84 people on his own? What kinda weapon did he have?
Medias said that he maybe had accomplices.
Anyway that's truly horrific. RIP, I really feel for you and your sorrow...
ils peuvent pas s'enfuir de l'ile, il a juste a marche et il en trouve, en plus quand il est arrive sur l'ile il a fait réunir tout les jeunes en disant que cetais des preventions pour la bombe (il etait deguisé en policier)
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ce que je comprends pas vraiment c'est qu'un groupe de personnes devrait pouvoir intercepter un mec, ça marche dans les films... :D

C'est tragique quand même :x
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:D le mec etait pas low jcrois
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J'ai entendu dire qu'il se faisait appeler pansemuckl, ça explique tout... :{D
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imagine an island.. a small island which will only take you 2 minutes to walk from one side to the other.

then you have 650 kids at this island. noone who has any weapons or other useful objects to defend themself with.

One guy with 2 weapons, a machine gun and a pistol.. with loads of ammo..


Then imagine more than 1 hour without any police..

How many do you think you could take out within that hour? I must say im kinda surprised not more people are killed.. If im not wrong, between 30 and 60 kids are also at hospital with wounds..


its crazy how one man can do such actions..
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shit fuck....lethal injection or life prison

RIP
i really feel for you Norway people :(

RIP
pic from the day before the attack on the island
http://politisk.tv2.no/nyheter/st%C3%B8re-om-israel-palestina-konflikten-%E2%80%93-okkupasjonen-ma-opph%C3%B8re-muren-ma-rives-og-det-ma-skje-na/
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and survivors said:
Some of my friends tried to stop him by talking to him. Many people think on the island that it was a test ... comparing it to how it is to live in Gaza. So many people went to him and tried to talk to him, but they were shot immediately.
First picture, the boy in the water, I'm fucking sad for him and for all the others... Seriously, I hope this guy will get what he deseirve.
I'm listenning to http://www.facebook.com/adrian.pracon explanation, and wow.. That's fucking horrible...
heard that too, fking sad rly... :(
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hard to admit that human being can do such things. don't even wanna try to understand stuff like that. Unforgivable.
support from Fr, RIP
Condolences to the families of the victims today..

Dont know how humankind can be like that ;s

RIP
Shits been going down the past 18 months, something big is going to happen soon.

And again, it was linked to religion.
Actually its political linked. He was against the goverment and how it was runned. And he disliked very much how norway is multicultural.

Only thing that is linked to religion was that he was a christian havent heard anything else

E: now its confirmed that there is 85 people killed on Utøya
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Ahh ok, it's completely fucked up. A lot of anti-government things have been happening recently. Protests around the world, internet hacking, phone hacking which has implemented the government, wikileaks and now things like this. Things are going to get worse.

I'm sorry to hear that something so terrible has happened in your country.

RIP to the victims.
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He was walking around killing people begging for their lifes

fucking bastard
Assholes like that rly piss me off. If I was calling the shots, that guy would get tortured for life, I got 0,0000..% sympathie for that kind of 'human being'
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how did they take that picture?

Too bad some people in there reject people from other countries, since its a nice place to study master degree
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:Ssssssss what......
my compassion, this is really sad
mmmmmmmmmmmmmonster kill
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