Crossfire / ET History Quiz

Answers for the post in the Fun Trivia journal some nostalgia. Anyone else with some ET trivia questions?

1. What was Crossfire originally known as?
a. Xfire.nu
b. Xfire.no
c. Xfire.be
d. Xfire.org

Crossfire was originally known as Xfire.be. After many weeks and many different names TosspoT finally settled on Crossfire.nu after too many potential sponsors were confusing the site with the gaming platform Xfire.com

2. Who created the first Crossfire site?
a. TosspoT
b. Raza
c. Fusen
d. taLa

Belgian overlord Raza is our creator. Hosted on a university server he first created the site during the lofty RTCW days. taLa later coded the much vaunted Crossfire 3 which was first unveiled at the Crossfire PrizeFight Challenge 1.

3. In January 2010 TosspoT announced an Intel Challenge in which Asian country?
a. South Korea
b. Malaysia
c. China
d. Japan

TosspoT announced an Intel Challenge in Malaysia controversially excluding Enemy Territory, although there was no further news following the announcement.

4. In 2006 who was drafted in as a last minute replacement just days prior to the tournament to play for the ATi Crossfire.nu Quakecon team?
a. gza
b. kot
c. Potter
d. Gifty

Due to a last minute drop out Estonian firebrand gza was drafted into the team at the very last minute. This involved many frantic late night calls with a Finnish aeroplane company and the kind cooperation of ATi. The ATi Crossfire team finished second place in Quakecon 2006 following some epic matches with KiH and idle.

5. Which team qualified ahead of idle.ee in 2006 to attend the PGA tournament in Poland alongside zeroPoint!?
a. aMenti
b. Northern Darkness
c. riZe Gaming
d. cdap.pi

Surprisingly cdap.pi, with a lineup consisting of kris, fobje, logic, snoop & nrs qualified ahead of idle.ee in the first 5on5 LAN tournament hosted at the Poznan Gaming Arena. They were knocked out in the semi finals by the all Polish supserstar roster of NetRunners

6. Why were idle.eu sensationally thrown out of Euro Cup XI?
a. For fielding an ineligible player
b. A mine recharge bug on Radar
c. Shrug
d. Deliberately throwing a match

In what’s considered by many as the best EuroCup featuring THAT final with u96d and Parodia there was controversy. After an incident involving a mine recharge bug the admins took a zero tolerance stance and idle.eu were thrown from the tournament for abusing the ‘shrug’ bug. This bug seemingly altered the hit boxes and caused much sensation at the time. That team featured everyones favourite Crossfire admin Sol.

7. Who coded ETPro?
a. Bani
b. reyalP
c. arni
d. Rain

ETPro is the mastermind of Bani. Unfortunately ET’s saving mod has seen no updates since 2006.

8. Which ClanBase admin did TosspoT sensationally fall out with, and coordinate the demise of?
a. Angrykid
b. Cash
c. DoneX
d. Spirit

Although details are sketchy TosspoT got in a ruckus with ClanBase admin Spirit following many strange decisions and allegations of favouritism. Spirit shortly after left ClanBase.

9. Name the odd one out
a. Nellie
b. foonr
c. Fusen
d. Rafiki

Rafiki is the only remaining admin on Crossfire, with the others having left their roles on the site. foonr now spends his time posting pretentious photos on FaceBook and listening to experimental French cover rock, Fusen can be seen spamming inane links on Twitter and Nellie is making his first million.

10. What is the highest recorded viewer count for an Enemy Territory match on Gamestv.org?
a. 2410
b. 3600
c. 2105
d. 1458

The Netherlands vs Germany ET Nations Cup IX Grand Final reached a recorded 2105 simultaneous viewers on GamesTV.org. Although it is believed that prior to the sites’ creation matches such as the Atlantic Battle and European Allstars gained more viewers.
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you call rafiki active? x]
thought same :P
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Remaining? Edited
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Maybe also interesting to know that RTCW was played 7vs7 back in the days with a lot more soldier action in the mix :)
Come on dude you're really not getting this! 'What team size was RTCW originally played with?'
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Lordy lordy!
I'll delete my comment if you want to make it exciting ;)
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I'm so bored :(
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columntime!
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I've nothing new to say
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Is that new? :D
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cool story bro
quiz with correct answers pointed out? wat?
The quiz has already been done, this is just the answers topic ^^
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first Atlantic Battle where ETTV alpha has been tested on would have had way more viewers than 2105, i think. ;-) so many ppl were pumped for the ETTV test.
idd there was so very many people playing around that time, like hundreds and hundreds of 6 man teams in OC plus the scensters. Even the Yanks had a large community. In the early days every ETTV server was full and as soon as another went up that'd fill up instantly.

You'll not like this but GTV killed the pre game platform & knocked down the hype that used to be generated in the news on here. That and the shoutcast shows.
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the good old times
Quote6. Why were idle.eu sensationally thrown out of Euro Cup XI?


lol whats a shrug and whats that bug


damn im 2 newschool

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awesome journal tho

shud have written a whole column about epic history of ET
I've the description of shrug slighty wrong, DoneX will
The truth about 'shrug' and its consequences
by: DoneX
Firstly allow me to apologise to all teams involved for the delay. It has taken time to get hold of and verify demos/mods as examples for our decision; something we have taken great care in considering.

Again it shows that the community is very involved with this and it showed that people really care what is going on within the community. And down the line, it has proven to be a very interesting week. Even for us it was very interesting what people think.


"Shrugging" itself is no bug.

The discrepancy between the hitboxes and the animation is also no "bug". However we did ban this because use of this in many movements (as used in "shrug-configs"), does not alter the hitboxes but does alter the animation of the models. In ETpro 3.1.0 hitboxes and models have NOTHING to do with eachother. However we have seen in multiple situations while using "shrug" that the model is further away from the hitbox, then it normally is.
These differences are smaller, when doing crouch strafe for example, but we believe "shrug" use is not needed during normal gameplay.
This was not stated specific enough before, but one way or another, the headhitbox can be assumed not being in the right position relative to the model or vice versa.

Therefore "shrug" was banned.

It is ClanBase's goal to minimize the discrepancies between the hitboxes and the models of which we are all aware of (like during prone, crouch, strafe).
To increase fair play in such matters, we decided to ban "shrug" during gunfights till such differences are minimized by ETpro or SD.
ETpro beta 3.1.9 did come with a solution b_realhead 1. Tests show that with this beta version "shrug" does not show significant differences. But for now, while we are using 3.1.0 version, it will remain banned until further notice.

To define this more clearly for any future event:
# Making "shrug" movements (in multiple situations) while being shot at, is considered to be illegal.
Logically, being really out of medpacks and accidently pushing the particular button will not result in a (full) penalty.

All teams had a decent warning with my newspost a few weeks ago. Also the sanction was made clear when using this (Red card + forfeit). The rule itself stands as that "shrug" was considered to be illegal. The reason however "hitboxes being altered" is however not entirely right. Its not just the hiboxes which are wrong, but the relative location between the model and its hitbox. As stated before by myself, it would be "assumed as a bug abuse or any other exploit abuse" to meet the proper penalty of such abuse.

Some discussion arose right after this incident, that there would be no difference and therefore the rule would not be justified. After a few days of testing "shrug", we came to the following conclusions:

1. During prone, there is a signifcant difference between the hitbox we are playing with now and where it is supposed to be.
Shrug while prone
The screenshots are showing that, the hitbox is clearly NOT in place of where the model is situated.

2. Standing upright, gave us another nice result.
Shrug stand


The old hitboxes were only visible in main and not in ETpro 3.1.0. Therefore we had to us "main" to view its hitboxes. However we had assurances from ETpro that, the hitboxes in "main" act the same as in ETpro 3.1.0 (also during shrug movements).

It occured to us that the hitbox in "main" was clearly bigger than the hitbox in ETpro 3.1.9. As we do not know the size of the headhitbox in ETpro 3.1.0, lets assume both cases. It also showed that the hitbox in "main" did not move at all during "shrug", but the head just moved within the hitbox.

* If the same (larger) size as in "main" would be applicable in ETpro 3.1.0, then people would be mislead if you look at the head itself. Our eyes assume the hitbox would equally centered around the head, but in fact it is the head moving and not the hitbox. This is something that CB believes to be uncalled for, since it affect the what players see compared to "non-shrug"/normal movements.
* If the hitbox from 3.1.0 would be equally sized as the one in ETpro 3.1.9 and taking into account that the hitbox is never moving in this upright position, the head would be moving outside the hitbox. So regardless the size of the hitbox both can give an unfair advantage for a player.


Also in this situation but in a different relative angle, we can see a clear difference between the location of the model and the hitbox. (look at Shug-stand screenshot)

These 2 situations are already enough to justify our ban of "shrug".

Again, ClanBase believes these differences between models and hitboxes should be minimized, while not harming the gameplay itself. We are aware of that strafe, crouch, prone combinations give even worse differences between model and hitbox. But these movements are necessary to play this game, shrug isnt.
If it cant be fixed by coding, we apply rules to improve fairplay.

Sadly, a player of Idle.eu forgot to remove its "shrug movements" from his config.
It was clear to us that this player did use "shrug" on numerous occassions including during gunfights. Unfortunately this accidental mistake will cost Idle.eu their game. Any use of shrug while being shot at/being in gunfights was not allowed and would be punished with a red card. It is a shame such event occured, looking at the good games we had during that match.

Therefore Roistot wins over idle.eu by 1 - 0 and advances through in ET EuroCup XI. idle.eu will receive a Red Card red card and full forfeit.
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and who was it that used shrug ?:D
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everybody back in the day ?
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no i mean from the idle.ee team
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idle.eu not idle.ee, I can't remember the full lineup beyond (I think) galahad / sol

e: Holz, sol, xc, mAx, Ganon, moO .
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you still didn't answer my question :D
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pretty sure it was Holz
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hmm thought it was him with the rifle recharge bug? Either way both sound like something he'd do.
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If I'm not wrong Holz was abusing both of those bugs :D

Btw for those who don't know what the "mine recharge bug on radar" means:

Back then when you put a mine down on ground where you couldn't plant it, you got your charge for the mine back. In radar defence this was abused by rifle players as they could throw a mine in the ground before enemy came in and then "fix" it to get full charge back after you shot your first rifle grenade. So basically you could shoot 3 rifle grenades in a row without having to wait for charge to regenerate.
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Ahah it made me laugh :>
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anubis was the rifle abuser!
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holz in oasis as far as I remember
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DoneX was such a dedicated admin!
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Quoteshud have written a whole column about epic history of ET


+1
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Remember the 16-bit Z-buffer bug?
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you talkin about the 16bit graphics that you could see parts of enemies through walls sometimes? (lol busted)

no im serious, i remember that i've tested a shitload of configs and in some cfgs you could see for a milisec someone behind a wall or smth, especially in supply's bunkers

or im talking about something else
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Ye, but you could rly abuse it for sniping :)

image: 30bmm2d
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That's not a bug, that's a feature.
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can you explain that please
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Knew 6, where does this leave me?
Reading old columns so you'll do better next time
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But 6 is still sufficient... Right?!?!
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hit 9/10 shame on me
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foonr now spends his time posting pretentious photos on FaceBook and listening to experimental French cover rock

I can confirm this.
Nouvelle Vague are amazing and he is so pretty.
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very interesting, please, tell me more
Something everyone should get...

Which American single handedly forced a third map in the Quakecon 2005 Grand Final, on what map and how many people did he take out using what?
Nomad, Ice, Panzerfaust?
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The map & weapon correct, not got the player nor the number of frags ^^
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Axe? 4man!
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My memory ain't what it used to be. My first answer would have been "Tosspot isn't American".

By the way, question number 9 isn't entirely correct with regards to something I heard in the CF4 rumour mill. :XD
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Don't tell me they've roped fusen back in?!

And :OO fix?!?!?!
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Special, United 5, Ice, 4 Man panza
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yap, gold star for you
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rafiki is famous for his awesome crossfire-statistic-journals


legend. i tell u
Where is the question about Morroco LeFrancis?
was nice to read and remember good times!
more storys please! :)
nice read. bring more.
I want more :(
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