Allu case
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18 Dec 2006, 16:42
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I know must of you cool guys are going to call me "retard" or "fagloler" or whatever but I want you to think about that allu-cheats allegations once more. i'm especially talking to those funny cb admins who always like to ban some player once in a while ( no matter whather he hacks or not ) to keep the community calm who demands on getting these banned who really cheat.
There are so many allegations and most of them which are actually not based on proved facts ( f.i. on demos ) are dropped. But well the result of a demo showing a top class player owning some others, who obviously got a higher popularity rating in the community, is always a huge outcry of a load of wnbs who simply won't get the point that even their idols can be killed in a row by some skilled player.
Yes, I've been playing with Allu for quite some time now though I've been rather inactive for the last months. Our 3o3 team has been blamed to be a squad of a bunge of cheaters which defenitely was not true at that time. And I am convinced that my teammate has not started using hacks in that small period of time ( because he simply does not need any of these small software helpers to play at a top level ).
just have a closer look at that demo which caused allu's ban:
demo
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10:15 there is an enemy clearly visible at the left side. Allu is not tracking him. What is an aimbot supposed to do? Ah, yes, it's about tracking enemys right? Well it simply won't happen here though the other player is fairly close to him.
09:45 Allu is getting sideraped. Again - no reaction.
09:27 Another opponent clearly visible. Allu's crosshair simly passes him. Which
bot would simply pass an enemy?
09:17 Anothe enemy visible, no tracking
08:34 & 08:00 No headshots at all, mediocre tracking - could've been done by some med player too.
07:24 again enemys visible, no attempt to bring them down
06:56 bad hit percentage
06:45 some enemy appears, Allu got his med-packs equipped. If he'd have been using a bot, that software should have kept the track on this opponent. What happens is the complete opposite.
06:10 lowmed infight
05:45 lowmed infight
05:21 lowmed infight
04:00 quite some good hits there but have a look at it in slowmo, especially that colt action which has been honoured with "ololorz" in the tv chat. what suspicious there? he delivers a headshot, misses the enemy for some shots and delivers another. if that's what you call hax - k, bust all these guys who've ever done this in there career.
03:40 delivers some hits, misses some other shots. quite well done but still nothing to be considered cheater's work.
02:32 again a normal infight
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Referring to Allu's tracking in general:
There are no "impossible" jumps from one opponent to another. Just connect to a server of yours and try. If you happen to see a scene which you consider to be suspicous try these movements on your own. Allu got a quite high sensitivity. Compared to me ( I need about 1 meter to do a 180° turn ) most of you guys got a high sensitivity. But if I see some opponent about 100° right to me i most likely won't be much slower than most of you to get this guy into the range of my crosshair. You just need to concentrate on the game. Now imagine what someone can do with higher sensitivity?
Killing some guy with two HS and the other with another two is another thing - but this has nothing in common with cheating - just check other skilled players' aim. If Mystic would have played like Allu in his first or second game most likely 95% of you guys would have spammed xfire with fanboy journals. Well, Mystic once was a good player and might still be but he isn't playing at that skill level which is nowadays needed to be a "high+ skilled player".
There have been loads of journals blaming butchji or mAus to be hackers. Those have not been banned though their demos showed superb aim which seemed to be impossible for quite a load of players out there. Just remember, maybe you were one of these? Well if you are one of these, why should one player who managed to reach a similar skill level be banned for nothing?
mAus has been playing for quite a long time until he reached his current "aim-level". Same goes for butchji.
He also insisted on not having used cheats during the BEL - IE match when i was talking to him. Why sould he cheat to some online friend? Well, I think i would not mind
telling some online friend of mine that I was using a hack in some game.
Well, now think about it and, confound it, get him unbanned in CB!
Even the old romans knew the meaning of "In dubio pro reo".
There are so many allegations and most of them which are actually not based on proved facts ( f.i. on demos ) are dropped. But well the result of a demo showing a top class player owning some others, who obviously got a higher popularity rating in the community, is always a huge outcry of a load of wnbs who simply won't get the point that even their idols can be killed in a row by some skilled player.
Yes, I've been playing with Allu for quite some time now though I've been rather inactive for the last months. Our 3o3 team has been blamed to be a squad of a bunge of cheaters which defenitely was not true at that time. And I am convinced that my teammate has not started using hacks in that small period of time ( because he simply does not need any of these small software helpers to play at a top level ).
just have a closer look at that demo which caused allu's ban:
demo
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10:15 there is an enemy clearly visible at the left side. Allu is not tracking him. What is an aimbot supposed to do? Ah, yes, it's about tracking enemys right? Well it simply won't happen here though the other player is fairly close to him.
09:45 Allu is getting sideraped. Again - no reaction.
09:27 Another opponent clearly visible. Allu's crosshair simly passes him. Which
bot would simply pass an enemy?
09:17 Anothe enemy visible, no tracking
08:34 & 08:00 No headshots at all, mediocre tracking - could've been done by some med player too.
07:24 again enemys visible, no attempt to bring them down
06:56 bad hit percentage
06:45 some enemy appears, Allu got his med-packs equipped. If he'd have been using a bot, that software should have kept the track on this opponent. What happens is the complete opposite.
06:10 lowmed infight
05:45 lowmed infight
05:21 lowmed infight
04:00 quite some good hits there but have a look at it in slowmo, especially that colt action which has been honoured with "ololorz" in the tv chat. what suspicious there? he delivers a headshot, misses the enemy for some shots and delivers another. if that's what you call hax - k, bust all these guys who've ever done this in there career.
03:40 delivers some hits, misses some other shots. quite well done but still nothing to be considered cheater's work.
02:32 again a normal infight
01:28 -----||-----
00:49 -----||-----
00:17 -----||-----
Referring to Allu's tracking in general:
There are no "impossible" jumps from one opponent to another. Just connect to a server of yours and try. If you happen to see a scene which you consider to be suspicous try these movements on your own. Allu got a quite high sensitivity. Compared to me ( I need about 1 meter to do a 180° turn ) most of you guys got a high sensitivity. But if I see some opponent about 100° right to me i most likely won't be much slower than most of you to get this guy into the range of my crosshair. You just need to concentrate on the game. Now imagine what someone can do with higher sensitivity?
Killing some guy with two HS and the other with another two is another thing - but this has nothing in common with cheating - just check other skilled players' aim. If Mystic would have played like Allu in his first or second game most likely 95% of you guys would have spammed xfire with fanboy journals. Well, Mystic once was a good player and might still be but he isn't playing at that skill level which is nowadays needed to be a "high+ skilled player".
There have been loads of journals blaming butchji or mAus to be hackers. Those have not been banned though their demos showed superb aim which seemed to be impossible for quite a load of players out there. Just remember, maybe you were one of these? Well if you are one of these, why should one player who managed to reach a similar skill level be banned for nothing?
mAus has been playing for quite a long time until he reached his current "aim-level". Same goes for butchji.
He also insisted on not having used cheats during the BEL - IE match when i was talking to him. Why sould he cheat to some online friend? Well, I think i would not mind
telling some online friend of mine that I was using a hack in some game.
Well, now think about it and, confound it, get him unbanned in CB!
Even the old romans knew the meaning of "In dubio pro reo".
humanized aimbot moron it doesnt track completly
The fact that he rox hard (plus with some weird movements) one time and sux hard another, is an arguement to prove he is a cheater.
I also played him the same day and after seeing this demo his aimbot is really obvious, he really sux :/
mAus cheat(ed/s) too, so blah.
it's as simple as it is: cb should ban peepz with strange pb screens where one can obviously see a hack and peepz who get banned by pb. not because of a demo where i personally saw no aimbot.
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hf leute zu busten die so was haben :>
At least we had a good laugh on vent during the ireland vs BEL game because of his obvious aimbot.
thats sick, if its true
UNLEASH THE CURRRRBEARS
war sehr unklug diesen post zu schreiben :x
aus meiner sicht ein klarer cheater..
anyway <3
ich weiß nur dass er mir gesagt hat, dass er keinen verwendet hat. punkt aus.
anyway <3 rene :D
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2. Not hacking in few situations doesnt mean he didnt cheat.
3. Aimbots can be used this way: you press button - crosshair goes to enemy head, you dont press button - crosshair responds only to your mouse's movements. You dont win all fights because it would be very suspicious. So sometimes you dont press button. Sometimes you dont press button even if you wanted but you just didint see the enemy (was looking at something else, e.g. checking accuracy in stats).
4. Most of us cant be 100% sure he cheated but its most likely he did.
2-4: in dubio pro re?
2. english pls
With such a beginning, why continue writing this whole piece?
What you're trying to say is that CB admins were wrong and Allu is a victim of unjustice. I was a part of CB for quite a while and I can honestly say, that though errors are of course a part of human nature, they really pay attention to what they're doing. I'm sure they spent some time analysing the demo, counting the pros against the cons - and this is the result.
Moreover - most of the scene is regarding Allu as a cheater, so, basing on your decent theory, they're wrong too. Even people, who have seen many cheaters thourough their long ET history.
Summing up - I do call you a retard now.
96,796%?
he's still there afaik.
How can you say that so many people are considering Allu as a hacker - do you know the correct number? Well you don't, nor do I, so these statistics are senseless anyway. Still we should be both able to agree on the point that there were quite some mAus-cheats allegations too.
If it makes you feel beter, I dont htink you're retard or smth. Its your case if you want publicly defend allu, but I think your journal has no sense of existance and just made some more spam, and the decision of clanbase is irreversible.
tbh community knows nothing (check gamestv bets on NETR - zP :p)
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and over 100 hs in a 3v3 on supply is normal
Allu doesnt hack, he just told me on vent :(
Limbonic: Giving examples of when he's obviously not using a bot doesn't work as proof any more than having an alibi for a time when the bank was not robbed.
if someone is accused for robbing and is in trial the court has to prove that the guy is guilty. there might even be 99% of the public thinking that the guy is guilty but the court has to show that the accused is guilty.
clanbase banned allu because some guys are saying that he hacks, without any proving anything.
your analogy won't work for this case imo.
and whole your line of defence is set on thought that, allu didnt use aimbot with aimkey.
It would also be nice if someone could explain how you spot these humanized aimbots that doesn't track perfectly or "snap" between heads like the bots you see on pubs.
PS: i LOLD
He obviously hacks, it's a new ultrahumanized aimbot, which I've sometimes seen on pubs (ppl using it: fe7uSS = mate of mBudget...), Quarand (ya), and some other wnbs). Just look how easily he gets headshots even while being hit, that's just impossible and in far distance shooting it's like he's shooting someone in the back while standing 2 centimeters behind him... He's also everything but subtile, meaning he's sure about winning 1on1 or 1on2 fights (because of his bot)... etc. etc.
HE HACKS, simple as.
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Sry dont know any person called like that, does he have another nick?
hit hardly.... secret method ..or nn_nodamage 1 .
I played for tests with etbot,but aimbot is noticable there,even one with aimfov 20.
But maybe there is diffrent,new better aimbot which i don't know at all about it.Btw etbot no longer works on etpro 3.2.6,this version was distributed for free (cracked) on pubs all over the world,that's why wehave so many PUB cheaters nowadays.
Im sure that new version is given hand by hand for free through ppl and they using at least no damage option (no recoil..easy hs with luger etc ) .
It's not ETBOT at all ... so what is this ? Well If this guy is banned
already he could just tell us players wtf was that ? SKill or new aimbot .
If 2nd option...we should worry about et future..there will be many new high skilled players and we will never be sure which one i real .It will hurt innocent ppl .
etbot = uber pwng 3hs + 360 fov + m_pitch 0.022 and few seetings
it just an armageddon.
nexus is quiet and realistic .
The question is what you need? :D
''better'' has two meanings :P
10:15 there is an enemy clearly visible at the left side. Allu is not tracking him. What is an aimbot supposed to do? Ah, yes, it's about tracking enemys right? Well it simply won't happen here though the other player is fairly close to him.
glaubst du aimbots wären so billig? schon mal was von ne private hack gehört du missgeburt also laber kein scheiss wenn du keine ahnung hast :x aimbots sind atm so perfekt das man sie überhaupt net erkennen kann aber der scheiss hurensohn hat ihn zu heftig aufgedreht und nur noch tripple hs verteilt was seltsam ist bei so nem verfickten wannabe progamer. auserdem tracked ein aimbot net durch die ganze map du bastard es gibt sowas wie aimfov und solang das niedrig eingestellt ist + aimkey dann aimed man nur wenn der gegner ganz nah am xhair ist und man auch schiest
08:34 & 08:00 No headshots at all, mediocre tracking - could've been done by some med player too.
schon mal was von random aim gehört? ein gute hack hat random aim und aimed net immer aufn kopf sonder auch mal auf body oder neben den kopf wo auch body hitboxen sind
06:45 some enemy appears, Allu got his med-packs equipped. If he'd have been using a bot, that software should have kept the track on this opponent. What happens is the complete opposite.
dazu muss ich wohl nix sagen steht schon oben
06:10 lowmed infight
05:45 lowmed infight
05:21 lowmed infight
hmm ok da war der bot eindeutig aus da er nach dem nächsten respawn for 5 sekunden rum steht und 100 pro den aimbot wieder an macht und nur hs verteilt
und zu dem ganzen restlichen mülll den du nichts wissender bastard verzapfst kann ich nur sagen PRIVATEHACK!!!!!!! die sind verdammt perfekt
naja, deine Mitmenschen werden sich erkenntlich zeigen
missgeburt wag es nie nie nie nie wieder mich aNzULabERn!
du ghörst echt in die glasvitrine bei aggro berlin
ps: ich weiß was du drauf schreiben wirst:
isch verstehe kein lowskilldisch alda du huso muddafigga
stimmts?
2. was hat das mit meinen eltern zu tun? ich bin ja net son böser wie ich immer tu :o ich bin n ganz lieber pm mich im irc (/msg silentSAD) und ich zeig dir wie lieb ich bin :<
ich hab artis schon gesagt das ich j4f flame und das net ernst mein ;) und sonst bin ich auch ganz lieb xD ich flame nur aus langeweile und wie gesagt das ist überhaupt net böse/ernst gemeint :,<
3. aggro berlin > all xD
burn in hell faggot/idiot/wotever
ur brain is even more lowskilled than ur aim Oo
its too obvious that he is cheating
over and out viol
mfg bruz
The fact is that I wasn't cheating. I rly don't care if I get banned form cb or not.. because I was planig to quit ET anyways.. altho it's unfair to team ireland but since they were the first ppl flaming me ( except Skydeh<3 I'm sorry mate :[ still love ya ) I rly don't care. If cb gets somekinda satisfaction by banning an innocent player.. go ahead. but in that case u should rly ban mAus and butchji as well :l
ps. I rly couldn't belive that nowdays if u get n1 headies.. u get banned from cb n'stuff :ll
and as I said.. I don't care wheather I get banned or not.. just saying that I didn't hack.. and yes.. I tried to tell them at frist that I didn't hack.. but for example apple has been accusing me of hacks for months.. so I just parted the chann cause I didn't care :l and tbh they are the ones who suffer in this situation.. not me
but if you really used it..plz after some time when you will forget about et and don't care at all about ppl who will never even see you,
confess :P
zet0 = cheating? wtf then my mom hax too
YOUR AN HAXZ0R!!! <3 =]
2. it's aimbot if u give 3hs? gg
und außerdem nur weil er ein paar mal noob spielt, man muss ja nicht immer mit bot spielen, oder?
and I am not experiencing the mindless happiness that retards are supposed to experience
this must mean he should not have been banned :(
you are Erik :)
over and out
gehts noch auffälliger als nachm spawn 5 seks stehn zu bleiben um den bot einzustellen und dann ständig 3 hs abzugeben?
ziemlich rofl deine argumente ^^