president of european comission was not elected
president of european parlament was not elected
the permanent president of european council has not been elected -> this is actually the man responsible for all the other things up
referendums in france and the netherlands and ireland that are not accounted for
are u guys all fucking blind or just plain stupid ?
You can discuss whether the way EU works is adapted/legit/etc. BUT THIS IS NOT A GODDAMN ELECTIONS MANIPULATION. If there is no elections, how can you say it's being manipulated. MAKE SENSE YOU IDIOT.
lol
are u still talking about russia ? the place where vote buckets are open wide, pen paint can be erased and replaced to vote for other party and blank bolletins are filled in accordingly.
if there are no elections to the highest ranked, the most important and the most well payd jobs in EU what you think this is ?
Jesus, what the hell is wrong with you? I know that Russia isn't a democratic country. I replied to you because you said that there had frauds/manipulations in the EU countries as well. Russia isn't part of EU!
It can be anything but manipulation! When you are being manipulated, you don't know what is going on. You do things and you don't realize they actually server someone else's interests. Now, I tend to think that each and every EU citizen know that the EU president hasn't been elected. Your pov is nonsense.
it is a higher level of control, even if its not manipulation, still you can not oppose to do something in others personal interests, and its far more worse when we see what is going on, dont agree and cant do anything to object
not elected yep, we the people were in the ilusion that we could choose our leaders and (un)governors, now things are done without caring to conceive and/or deceipt what is being done, either we fight furiosly for our freedom and democracy (even if iluded values) or we will be like pigs in a warehouse
conclusion: manipulation or dont giving a fuck on who they put in charge is afecting us all, we, the people, are all seeing this show in front of our eyes and are to damn lazy to even raise our voice.
i sincerely hope that if one day i start to really care about this matters and are willing to do something, the super vast majority join me and fight the good fight next to me
I fully agree with you man! I know that it is absolutely abnormal that EU institutions deny us the right to express/vote/etc. and it is also a shame that the French government did not take into account the referendum about Lisbon, but I don't call this manipulated elections. You said people were lazy. Can't agree more. But this is not manipulation.
But we agree on the fact that something big is wrong yes
FUCKYEA
Whats so special about it?
AND no vote in germany...
no elections in italy
president of european comission was not elected
president of european parlament was not elected
the permanent president of european council has not been elected -> this is actually the man responsible for all the other things up
referendums in france and the netherlands and ireland that are not accounted for
are u guys all fucking blind or just plain stupid ?
are u still talking about russia ? the place where vote buckets are open wide, pen paint can be erased and replaced to vote for other party and blank bolletins are filled in accordingly.
if there are no elections to the highest ranked, the most important and the most well payd jobs in EU what you think this is ?
It can be anything but manipulation! When you are being manipulated, you don't know what is going on. You do things and you don't realize they actually server someone else's interests. Now, I tend to think that each and every EU citizen know that the EU president hasn't been elected. Your pov is nonsense.
not elected yep, we the people were in the ilusion that we could choose our leaders and (un)governors, now things are done without caring to conceive and/or deceipt what is being done, either we fight furiosly for our freedom and democracy (even if iluded values) or we will be like pigs in a warehouse
conclusion: manipulation or dont giving a fuck on who they put in charge is afecting us all, we, the people, are all seeing this show in front of our eyes and are to damn lazy to even raise our voice.
i sincerely hope that if one day i start to really care about this matters and are willing to do something, the super vast majority join me and fight the good fight next to me
But we agree on the fact that something big is wrong yes
had no time to write longer textes :>
but thats what i meant
u just woke up minutes ago
:D