play to the end

WHAT?

link to match plz

well, if i got fullholded i play the next round its a good pracc :)

why using France as exemple of loosing :(?

anyway, yeah, totally agree with you, was kinda pathetic

since i obviously seemed to miss sth, could u explain what happened?

got no probs with it tbh, if the round is over i dont mind if you go afk or quit hell go to spec if you want, "play to the end" is a noob attitude which never gets you anywhere, no point of trying to act cool for the sake of it, do what you do but dont judge others on that

Yeah cause in e-gaming there are millions of viewers who would be pissed off if you didn't play the second round

Have to say I fully agree with you, and big props to Iron.

i totally agree with u !

time to switch off the finnish flag

I don't really see how people are arguing against this. I wouldn't do this in any sport I have ever played, it is the epitome of pussy behaviour. Only little girls act like this "waaah we're not winning so I'm not playing anymore waaah".

Pretty much the definition if a bitch move.

oh noes they stopped playing an online game for 4 min :'(

Every sport is different so your example just one point of view.

Do you know that professional chess players give up after a wrong step?

We just need a "resign" button in ET menu so when the team 50%+ push it then we can go to next round. simply as that.

Oh other thing that i hate when somebody say "gg" ingame and they still fight seriously. I just watched a goldrush on ettv (dunno what teams) and there was more than 2 minutes left at bank stage....

no hero in Finland

In table-tennis, set gets forfeited if score goes 6-0 for other, no point to play to the end. We used to have kinda same at bandy when playing kiddie-games, after 15-0 game was stopped so there wouldn't be any unnecessary shit or actions. It is just rude to kick when some one is down.

But still, you should try till the end, especially in "important" matches.

kanker bek houwe

get off your high horse plz :D

this is like saying you should never quit a sc2 game 'till you lose all of your units..doesnt rly happen and does not make any sense

btw if you want to compare ET to football it would be more like Argentina is up by 3 and theres 1 minute left on the clock. there is no way you can set a time with 3-4 minutes left on supply depot if you havnt got past the first stage

pretty pathetic from the finland guys...

Well tbh I can understand this.

I guess they just went afk to not fuck up the spirit and be motivated for the second map, that's how I see it. Ofc that's not nice for people speccing or for the opponents but it can be stressful and it can certainly create some kind of bad spirit in the team if you get your ass fucked like that. Doing a 5 mins pause can be helpful

Well of course it's not exactly nice for your opponent to just go AFK there isn't really much point to play the last 4 minutes of a fullhold on first stage. And the reason the Finns went afk (to refresh themselves and the team spirit) is actually quite a good one. Everyone's done it in one way or the other tbh, once you realise you can't win anymore you just go for frags or damage or just play passively because there's no point anyway. It's exactly the same.

Would have been better if they just mindlessly continued playing but I think what they did isn't dishonourable in any way. In fact who gives a shit about spectators, really? They're not paying the players to play till the end or something. I don't think me running around supply cave the last 2 minutes of a game has ever made a group of noobs get me kicked out of my team. :D

DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT!

For what it's worth it was only wrong because they went afk before it was impossible to set a time. Doing so in the first stage at 2 minutes left would be completely fine (and at 15 seconds left nobody would even notice) since the round would already be effectively over as it's theoretically impossible to make any difference to the result. They did quit at like the 6 minute mark while the map can be done in 3, so that was indeed fucking stupid.

However you are allowed to do whatever the fuck you please in your match so your whining makes little sense. The mistake only harmed the one who made it, it's not against the rules, and no player has a responsibility to entertain the viewers.

You cant compare ET to football (or any other major sport). In sports, there are many players/teams who get violent when they know its over, which is much worse than just stopping playing.
I am not saying I like to see someone going afk/quitting, but its understandable. Its still better to let ppl handle some irl stuff (long toilet breaks, smoking, getting food/drink, walking out the dog, whatever...) in time during round when they know, there is no way of winning than just pointlessly playing and then waiting 10 minutes between rounds.

should've just called a timelimit vote to finish the round fast

Was thinkin of writing the jounral abou that match also and the behavior that finns show. Yes this is e-sports and there are "only" 500 viewrs.

Well this are just reasons and the thing is to respect the game and the opponent. Going afk on the last 6min was wrong in every way. You disrespect the opponent and that is something that usually kids do. When you are representing a team or a nation you really need to stick it up and act like a grown up.

This is because in any sports. You always respect your opponent and play till the end.

Graet jounral!

From a spectators point of view sure, things like that shouldnt occur. The players on the other hand could easily benefit from taking a break if things aren't going as planned -- and if they need that to add further excitement next round/map, spectators shouldn't care too much (rather that than a massive break in warmup). And when you're about to lose anyway, there's no impact on the game. Spectators could just take a break to take a piss and a smoke or something anyway while waiting for the next round or map.

Good sportsmanship from those who continued playing, but idc about those who didn't.

To sum up, yes let them go afk if they want to.

btw snuble, ET isnt what it used to be -- should be happy people are still playing it instead of whining over this

I agree with you!

Game was over, we were playing shit and the spawn times didn't favour us either. There was no chance for us to even get through the first stage so it would've only gotten us more frustrated to keep on playing and bashing our heads against the wall. Instead we decided to calm down and try to put ourselves together for the next round. Obviously this didn't work out quite well as our performance yesterday was just so horrible, but in my opinion we had a better chance this way to get back into the game.

I understand that it wasn't very enjoyable for the spectators and players involved, but to be honest those last minutes wouldn't have offered any entertainment to anyone. Personally for me it's just the same if the players start screwing around on the server or just stay put doing nothing after the round is over. Your football comparision doesen't quite work here as in football they're being paid to entertain the audience and have all the sponsors to be responsible for. Also in football you can't really gain anything positive by stopping to play as it is a totally different game compared to ET. For example in football if you'd quit playing at the end of first half your opponent might just score a couple additional goals and the result would stay there for the 2nd half. In ET if you're going to get fullheld on 1st round it can't get any worse resultwise during the last meaningless minutes.

Also I'd like to point out that we didn't mean to offend anyone even if we just thought of our own advantage in that situation. We just used that time to prepare better for the next round and as soon as the first round ended we were ready for the second to do the best we can. This is a pretty rare situation, but if people think that what we did is wrong, perhaps the rules need to be adjusted or some changes in general have to be made? Otherwise I don't really see why we would need to play for the spectators and possibly ruin our team spirit completely during the last minutes.

The only thing I'm going to apologize here for is the fact that we rushed the decision to stop playing and like Vanhaomena said, we should've kept on playing for a bit longer until there wouldn't have been any theoretical chances left to win it.

What everyone is forgetting is the disrespect that it showed to the UK players. By being whiney little bitches it cheapened the UK teams' victory.

As for people saying "oh the football analogy doesn't work because they're being paid and there are millions of spectators", does not hold sway. I play a lot of football and not one time in any match have I ever played have we just sztopped playing. Some times in my time playing football where we have just been absolutely battered we still play to the end. I suppose that that is just true competitive spirit.

And for the "morale" argument did that really work? Personally my morale would be raised far more if we actually got past the flag and maybe even constructed the crane controls than just getting held @ flag.

asdasda dont tell me finland not only got bashed but quit before the end :ASdasd

Angsty fins trying to save face "lol guiz??:D didnt even care about the gamez lolz, we went afk before it was impossible to set a time loelsz XD, we aint even care xDDD"

also Snuble nicest guy on crossfire?

u take this way to serious dude, its fking inet game.

Can't see how this is even remotely close related to football? 3mins left on the clock, anything can happen, therefore you play to the end. You also get paid which has a massive influence, including sponsors, and not the mention the press and criticism you would get if you refused to continue (look at tevez for example). With 3 mins left on the clock, what's the point in trying to attack, when your more likely going to get annoyed and pissed off which will result in you playing even worse the next round and map. I'm not saying what the finns did was right, but its what ive done in the past, and would do, if it meant a better hope in playing better next round/map (which we did see on radar). And for the spectators? majority of spectators go afk or do something else when a team is getting fullheld at flag with 3/4mins left on the clock - Including owzo the caster. Where does it say in the rules that a team has to play till the end just to entertain the viewers? They can do whatever they want in their match.

The UK had a pretty sick game and deserved the win, even if Finland continued to play, they wernt getting that flag, the defence was too solid, and they had a nice spawntime. All i can say is the finns made a decision in their favour which everyone is hyping up for no apparent reason, which to be honest wasnt even that bad. Everyone complaining about sportsmanship an shit, they only went afk for like 3/4mins. They didnt whine or complain once, they took it on the chin, and prepared for the next round, which simply wasnt good enough.

so many retards in this journal

that s because ego in this game is bigger that the god damn empire state building.specially on ppl like matias who seems that DON T understand a simple thing:

NO MATTER HOW HIGH IS YOUR SKILL IN ET YOU CAN T LEARN THINGS ABOUT REAL LIFE BY PLAYING ET!

For me it depends on the opponent. If they respected my team the entire time while getting owned hard. I don't have a problem to play till the end of the match. But if the opponent didn't respect my team i can't think of a reason to keep on playing. It's just a matter of respect.