CCDT cancelled
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20 Mar 2012, 20:44
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First of all thanks to people who supported this cup. I'm very sorry for the people that didn’t misbehave and actually participated with the right reasoning and followed the idea behind this cup.
What has killed this cup?
The egos of people willing to win so bad that they can’t even be bothered with the idea behind this cup: Higher skilled guys teaching the lower skilled guys and having fun together.
The massive drop outs, the hours put into replacing people is ridiculous, so many drop outs so many unreliable people.
I know that we as admin crew (ross/aniky/evilynn) didn't always pick the best replacement but shit like that happens. It makes me so sad to see if we allow captains to pick some backups and told them to go for low skilled guys they still only think about winning.
Perhaps the 32 teams was a bad decision and it wasn’t prepared good enough but still we as the admin crew feel that the community(also some of the captains) have let us down so bad and can’t be bothered spending even more time on this cup.
From my own side I can tell you that I easily put over 30 hours into this cup and I don’t think it’s worth it and I won’t do it again. Ohyeah thanks for the 800+ queries.
Evilynn has announced that she will try something like this again in a month, I wish her the best of luck and hope the people that were massive cunts during this tournament won't ruin it for the others, again.
What has killed this cup?
The egos of people willing to win so bad that they can’t even be bothered with the idea behind this cup: Higher skilled guys teaching the lower skilled guys and having fun together.
The massive drop outs, the hours put into replacing people is ridiculous, so many drop outs so many unreliable people.
I know that we as admin crew (ross/aniky/evilynn) didn't always pick the best replacement but shit like that happens. It makes me so sad to see if we allow captains to pick some backups and told them to go for low skilled guys they still only think about winning.
Perhaps the 32 teams was a bad decision and it wasn’t prepared good enough but still we as the admin crew feel that the community(also some of the captains) have let us down so bad and can’t be bothered spending even more time on this cup.
From my own side I can tell you that I easily put over 30 hours into this cup and I don’t think it’s worth it and I won’t do it again. Ohyeah thanks for the 800+ queries.
Evilynn has announced that she will try something like this again in a month, I wish her the best of luck and hope the people that were massive cunts during this tournament won't ruin it for the others, again.
Less teams (around 10 max)
Should choose players over other players based on availability (Pick someone who avi 4 times a week rather than 2 times a week)
First of all, the idea of making it open to everyone should stick. This is truly the charm of the cup, the idea of having good players play alongside weaker players for fun should stick. If this community wants to be in a good place, it should at least give the opportunity to play to everyone.
Now personally, I also quite like the idea of drafting. It adds just a little bit of excitement and strategy to the concept of playing a few fun games of ET. What I would propose for any future version of a community cup would therefore be to keep it open for everyone, be it high or lowskilled players, but reintroduce the draft element.
A possible way this could be executed is by pooling the players. Let's say we put all the rifles that sign up into one pool. The tricky part is to avoid situations in which the first pick gets the best players. In order to do this, I thought of scoring the signed up players on a scale of 1-50. A good rifle for example would be scored as being worth 30 points, whereas a relatively unknown rifle would be scored as being worth 10 points.
Each teamcaptain is then given an amount of points to spend on his team, let's say for example 50. This prevents the likelihood of there being an imbalance in teams, since those 50 points should get you at least 5 (or 6, drafting a backup?) players. You could therefore opt to get a highskilled rifle for 30 points, but this leaves you only 20 points to get your remaining players. It's a bit like fantasy football really, you have a budget to work with and try to form the best possible team with that budget.
I realize the ardeous nature of scoring every single sign up, but I believe this idea offers some potential. I really believe something like a draft cup for the ET community should be attempted again, as in its principle nature it is the best thing that ever hit crossfire. It would be a shame to let it go to waste.
Anyways, was a fun cup, thanks for games team mental
HUGE THX to the admins, maybe you can try a smaller cup for the next time and for a longer periode of time so captains can acutally prac for 1 or 2 weeks with his teammates ;)
Admins did nothing wrong, but it's expected with some captains.
silent and gross are 2 nice motherfuckers, cool to play with and the rest of the team
ggcuNORE
You did a good job at all but some decision were just ridiculus. Some of these captains are just a joke and shoudn't get the chance again to lead a team for getting mercs without admin permission ( such a shame to have something like that in this community same goes for the plenty amount of drop outs..)
Anyway hopefully the next edition will be better and with less teams.. this community doesn't deserve to have more than 16 teams cause most of this players here a just a shame
now that my team was going to win this it gets canceled :(
It was a nice cup tho :)
but idd, why be captain, when you're not motivated + there was enough time to figure out if one is available on the matchdays..
if there will be a 2nd cup, drafting 1 or 2 backup spots for each team might help, it will possibly avoid this merc-problem
But we got plans for how to reduce drop-outs in next edition, if there is going to be one...
sry that i couldnt make it today :/
Was lot of fun, thx to team xPERIA :D
And big thanks to Simon for organising this cup, good idea but it seems that individuals ruined it, sad but thx for the effort!
Maybe its a better idea to make it a 1-day cup on sunday, something like:
-all players join a IRC Channel.
-best 16 captains, and 16co-captains
-other players join a team
-play ODC
I think there will be less 'whine'/problems
Anyway, nice effort and idea.
team sinnu would have won that shit...even with sinnu and me :D
now my golden pocal is gone :(
fu dodging nerds!!!
in memory of team sinnu
but the #1 will be useless is guess, if its fucked up like this this time, why would they spent another shtiload of time on a 2nd one, if its pretty much wasted at the end of the day
Good idea, good people involved, but the seareal syndrome is just too much these days...
the idea and the effort you put in there with the rest of the admin team is just great. but it was simply missplanned. 32 teams in an intended fast paced cup (=192 players + all the backups) is too much to be fully controlled by 3 or 4 admins.
reduce it to max 16.
so what should be different in future events like this?
since i havent followed the draft that much i just know that 2 "highs" were picked as captains, 4 "lows" randomly got drafted to them.
lets make it different. get 1 highskilled guy as captain ( with apllication ofc). all applying people will get ranked in a tier mode (they can judge themselves just like teams do for oc signup) so in the end there would be like 3? tiers.
a) high/skilled/known however you wanna call it
b) semi decent players med/med+ players and
c) lows/unknowns.
so in the end each team consists of players like this Cap.-a-b-c-c-c+bu or Cap.-a-b-b-c-c+bu. now the draft system... captains can just draft players from tier a) ( and maybe b) ?) - while c) is getting drafted randomly.
also add some rule that captains and a) tier players have to agree that the focus of the ccdt is about giving lows/unknowns a chance and not about winning at all. if they still decide to drop out or whine about there low teammates they will get banned from any other competition like this in the future.
and no, im not interested in taking an orga/admin spot. just sharing my thoughts.
Said b4 that we are here to learn smth and have fun, not to win it!
So punky, mant, raull, tamjee, eibbbb thanks!
+ we had the best team and didnt even have any major changes! (1 player +/-)
btw on other side i totally understand you, 2bad you couldnt finish it since you already did a lot of effort. guess u should have made it single elimination, because of 32 teams
too bad we lost our gold pocal now :s
This way you dont have kids running around getting their friends to play.
well done simon mate after all.