CF 4.0 is here: what now?

Now that the first wave of whine and complaints has washed over the makers of this site lets try and make some lemonade shall we?
I got used to the new design, cant see any downside to it.
I hear search has been improved which I remember to be the only real technical short comming of old cF.
One has to wonder tho whats wrong with those acchievements in the profiles cause everyone seems to have the same. "creating conent like no other" implies that "no other" (or at least not every single other member of the site) has the same acchievement.However that isnt really all that important.

I do find there is a lack of new functionalities. I would have hoped for things that actually help the ET community out in a way that it helps ET out (e: for heavens sake how long can it take to get the "get ET" section up?).
I was really hoping for an integrated merc/gather system. I dont have an active ET team, not for years now. So it is incredibly hard for me to play a game even tho every now and then I fell like it. (Pansys article actually made me go out and merc 2 very enjoable 3on3s yesterday).

Cant we use this site and a little panel on the side to sign up to play? A little like the ESL system but obviously less complex. Id like to be able to see who wants to play ET while I am browsing thise site and be able to join in.


Do you guys have any (constructive) ideas what the new CF can actually be used for? Give the transition a meaning.
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Did you film this?
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:D no, would've been sick to see though.
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imagine this would happen to cf.awsome shit isnt it?
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my point exactly, put this bomb inside cf 4.0 and we'll be liberated from all the infidels (non cf3 believers)
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well to be honest for me the aspect,the view of the website,don t matter.

what matter for me is the ideology of the people and that you can t change via the website :)
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Impressive
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The dev team is currently fixing bugs and adding important features, like a proper admin feature set.

CF4, why the change apart from Google being able to index CF better now, it was mainly because CF 3.2 basicly nothing could be changed in CF4 however it's possible to add new features. So suggestions like this are great and will surely be looked into, but there are some priorities now.

If you have more feedback/suggestions or even bug reports they are obviously more than welcome.
all of those infrastructure things are nice and important but i think they community would appreciate to have a visible benefit from the transition.
something that makes them feel like it was worth it.
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can i ask why did they release crossfire 4 is there was still basic work to do on it?
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I agree with you that it was rushed too much, the idea was to fix the bugs right after the launch but the problem was that krosan and tosspot the main managers behind went rather inactive at that time due to real life.
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And there was no replacement or anything? It kinda gives the feeling that the community means nothing and admins just do whatever they want even if the biggest part of the website doesnt really agree with it. Doesnt it kinda feel the same way as being a co-admin that you dont have a voice?
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I can only agree with this, but I'm staying postive and what happend is something to look back at and learn from obviously but now is more the time to focus on the future.
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optimistich! Maar wel te merken dat je hier nog niet zo lang bent :D

Vind jammer dat het hier altijd zo geheim over word gedaan en dan dingen beloofd worden waar je daarna niets meer over hoort/ziet. Verander daar wat aan dan mag je als laatste naar huis gebracht worden op mijn feestje
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Als je niet optimistisch blijft kun je er na mijn mening ook beter mee stoppen maar dat terzijde.

Ik vind juist dat er totaal niet geheim over wordt gedaan, het wordt niet meteen naar buiten gegooid(wat jij wel wilt?) maar als je er naar vraagt kun je naar mijn mening er een bult inzicht in krijgen.
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Ben ik ook wel met je eens, is ook een goede instelling.

Maar ja je hebt wel gelijk, als je mensen kent en gaat vragen dan krijg je wel antwoorden die dan eigenlijk niet naar buiten mogen gedaan worden maar wat ik vooral merk is dat veel admins het niet met elkaar eens zijn en niet met elkaar op een "prof." manier met elkaar kunnen praten en niet tegen kritiek kunnen. vind ik toch wel belangrijk als je iets probeert draaiende te houden. En niet alles hoeft gedeeld te worden maar sommige beslissingen die met de community te maken hebben vind ik wel dat er na de community moet geluisterd worden en niet erna pas.
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Sometimes you've gotta make some hard decisions, I've killed this game and this community too many times. Needed to do it once again to feel ALIVE!!!!
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I dont think you did, you did some important things to keep it running, krosan had a bigger part than you would ever have in killing a community.

Dont think stubborn people should be in leading positions and a bit more transparency is always nice to have.

Also there should be a newer generation of people leading stuff if the current ones are inactive for whatever reason. Its not the first time krosan dissapears because of personal issues and the way gamesTV is going doesnt really look good either. anal power.
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Who are these people you speak of! They are more than welcome to do whatever the heck they want! If you recall I even made you a CF admin because I saw potential for good in much time you were on CF.
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I know they are but not being able to get criticism when you are in a leading position is kinda strange. And i did my job as admin quite nicely but one of my haters screwed me over and you demoted me >:@
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So you're stating a problem, agreeing that we've done stuff to try to solve it, but ultimately agreeing that the problem is unsolvable? :D
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Not unsolvable, just the wrong people at the wrong places making wrong decisions in my eyes. Why did cf 4.0 had to be released in such short notice? Dont know the numbers but seems like it have hurt the scene more than it did good and i dont see why it needed to be rushed. ET Committee? What good did they brought for the community? Dont know if i missed it but also doesnt seem like it did much. Kinda forcing the whole game back into 5on5 again after the big drama it caused when they did this the first time, so many people left because of this and never came back. I know you gotta make some hard decisions but forcing things upon the community without talking to it just feels wrong and not a nice way to get treated. Hope you take it serious cause it did made people i played with leave the scene.
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Game and scene would be long dead if not for few tough decisions made by a few.
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im not saying you guys only did bad things, kinda overshadowed by the bad things tho. But that is how i saw it.

Anyway i would like to have my administrator powers back
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There is no shadow.
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Belgium shadow.

Maybe its my smoked brain, but again it feels like dodging answers and exactly what i was talking about before. And people wonder why i act the way i do here :P

And why are crossfire and gamesTV still separate websites, that would have been nice upgrade^_^
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just a side question, what would be the first thing you would do as an admin? apart from checking out the features of course.
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Try to get crossfire and GTV together into one website. i know this one is a hard one but if GTV falls what website if left for easy ETTV coverage?
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Find people that host cups often and stimulate them to host more cups.
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How would you do this?
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I have no idea, i am just shouting some random ideas what i think could help this community stay active.

ET gather like style but then on crossfire would also be nice, so does a war finding system.
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could let them stay active with something like Crossfight, giving them some power on crossfire is a way to stimulate people. dont know if you know what it was but if you find active enough admins it could work.
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zorgen dat frop hulp krijgt bij zn autisme zodat hij zich niet meer vast houd aan de regeltjes maar zijn gezonden verstand gebruikt en krosan vervangen met Netherlands banaan
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Currently working/testing out a new build that will fix a number of issues and will introduce a new form of searching.
If you guys still need some bug-hunter, feel free to call me.
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oh you bicep nerd!
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what? :D me? explain? :o
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the car pic :D
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the char? xD

I am not ipod, it's just a pic of him!
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"help the ET community "

Pfff. Just play the game, that's it. Cups are going on, though it is nice to see / would be nice to see some high-profile CF-cups too.

Site is nice, but it is just meh, everything new is always whined about and disliked. But meh. Maybe too radical change at once.
I appreciate the work put on this site and the things CF crew dose for this community, But there are some problems with CF 4.0, luckly there arent hard to fix.

First of all, you need to add a box where you can see the last comments on journals,news etc (like the one on gamestv.org)
Secondly, the group creation is fucked up: "This group is currently pending approval. It's hidden and you can not invite any members until it has been approved" - get more admins to do their jobs or remove the need of approval. Maybe the group creation can wait... But news... I needed to wait 3 days for my news article about a map FOR ET to get published, but there are tones of news about CS:GO, LOL or ODC's that get published more quickly.

Also the site is down almost every day. Imo, when you make cf 5(if you ever do) , dont realase it until its REALLY finished

Finally, the biggest problem isnt about the design of this site, its like Thomm said above, the community. Many of them are good only to whine. They don't appreciate nothing, they do nothing but they complain alot.
Secondly, the group creation is fucked up: "This group is currently pending approval. It's hidden and you can not invite any members until it has been approved" - get more admins to do their jobs or remove the need of approval.
- the problem here is that it doesn't show up for admins in the 'pending area', I will surely speak this through with the management/devs.

Maybe the group creation can wait... But news... I needed to wait 3 days for my news article about a map FOR ET to get published, but there are tones of news about CS:GO, LOL or ODC's that get published more quickly.
-this is just bullshit, I check the if there is news to accept serval times a day and I'm not the only one so your 3 days story is quite unrealistic, prehaps 3 hours.
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It wasant 3 days ;) i submited it in the afternoon and it got accepted next day in the evening. Just saying there are a lot of not so ET related news out there that dont help ET in anyway.
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not really quick, but not as long as you make it out to be.
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Yes, you are both right. It didnt last so long for the news to get published. Sorry for the false information(I don;t know why I had the impresion it took longer...)

But you should still consider the "group bug" and most important you should lobby for the recent comment to be implemented(It very handy for the recent comments on older journals/news/articles to be seen)

Also, just found out that sometimes when you are looking at your own profile(at least when i look at mine) and you click on the Activity button, nothing happens...
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  • I made an dev ticket about the groups also I accepted your group already.
  • I will also accept the groups people request me to accept, they can do this through IRC.
  • Going to look into the Activity bug aswell
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Honestly i would love to see something like the gather system used on crossfire or at least set up on a site and embedded on crossfire. As you said i don't have enough time for a team but sometimes i just miss playing a 3on3 now and then and actually playing a rather challenging game.

I like the site, i think it can be a little clunky at times but its overall user friendly style i cant help but enjoy.

+id like to say about the small moaning part of the community, they talk about the grand old days like they were there...jesus i was hardly there. Crossfire to me is more than just a site or a layout its the place i loved to come and spend time after playing WAY to much ET. I read the articles inside out and adored the insight i got to it. To sit there and moan about HURR DURR HRUR MA JURNALS UNT DAT GOOT NO MORE XD well fuck me you just aren't really helping are you.

The small few who moan, why don't you try and use the site to its full functions before you sit there and moan about everything you have never done.
checking the side like once in a week.. it's not the same

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wow fixing bugs!!! nice!
really? still?
I've always believed in simplicity.
I haven't used youtube in over a year now because of this reason it was fine how it was but they ruined it by making everything more complicated and fancy looking.
i am sorry but i cant agree with that at all.
being conservative for the sake of being ignorant is no option for me.
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Antman's theme/script as an integrated option on the site would be very nice.
I agree on having atleast a dark and a light theme.
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STCKENEFELS ET SONGS on the site :D
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