cgac just here to stop the paranoia?
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19 Mar 2014, 20:30
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Think its actually true since 
pupup0x actually proved it
http://www.gamestv.org/event/46910-malibu-vs-victimized/
pupup0x Wednesday, 19th March 2014 20:20
The only reason I did this was to show people cgac is useless program. In my previous match I had the same cheat running on background, not giving me any advantage but with one command I could've enabled everything. I did that to see if it would detect anything silently. It didn't. Now I tried to see if it even blocks the cheat usage. It didn't. The cheat I used is approximately 6 years old public multihack that even pb detects.
I wish the community happy games and let the paranoia start! Sorry for everyone (except kapot, you're a retard) in Team Malibu for using you to prove my point. Had to be someone.
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got the feeling some ppl have figured this out already some time ago x)
pupup0x actually proved ithttp://www.gamestv.org/event/46910-malibu-vs-victimized/
pupup0x Wednesday, 19th March 2014 20:20The only reason I did this was to show people cgac is useless program. In my previous match I had the same cheat running on background, not giving me any advantage but with one command I could've enabled everything. I did that to see if it would detect anything silently. It didn't. Now I tried to see if it even blocks the cheat usage. It didn't. The cheat I used is approximately 6 years old public multihack that even pb detects.
I wish the community happy games and let the paranoia start! Sorry for everyone (except kapot, you're a retard) in Team Malibu for using you to prove my point. Had to be someone.
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got the feeling some ppl have figured this out already some time ago x)
probably that's because it's still in its early stages...
just stop cheating fucking bellends then no one has to rage over an ac
now serious, u must be incredibly stupid if u rly think, its better to let cheaters cheat safely with cgac proof or u are cheating :PpPpp
I also know that a cheater-free-ET is never gonna happen because stupid people never die out
best regards, Purska
#KPKP clean and leet gg vittu
All that happened today is a player cheated and was banned. The fact that he cheated while using CGAC and was not automatically banned by the anticheat does not mean that it isn't working. Even if the AC isn't busting players every day, it helps us in several other ways as well. Besides, the purpose of an anticheat is not necessarily to prevent cheats from being run altogether but instead to simply help identify and dispose of the players who do make the decision to cheat. Look at TZAC: 95% of the bans made were manually added by chaplja himself in waves. Many players felt "safe" while cheating, sometimes for several months, but were all still caught in the end. Not saying that CGAC should be compared to TZAC (because let's face it, no anticheat will ever be as good as SLAC/TZAC was in its prime), but it is a valid point - lack of bans does not imply inefficacy.
Also, I'd like to remind everyone that before CGAC started supporting ET we didn't have an anticheat, unless you count those modified .pk3 files from our friend
Paranoia will exist regardless of what happens (or doesn't happen) with CGAC. The large majority of cheat accusations made nowadays are simply the result of this mass paranoia that has existed ever since TZAC started going downhill. I've seen enough as both a player and an admin to confirm this. There are too many people in the community who are incapable of losing a match without accusing the other team of cheating. I am a medskilled player at best, yet I've been personally accused multiple times of cheating in IRC wars simply because my teammates and I did better than our opponent expected us to do. There are not nearly as many cheaters in competition as some people would like to think.
The truth is CGAC is primarily geared towards CoD4, and there's nothing I can do to change that. It is also still in its very early stages, and the developers are currently busy with school and other things as well. There is absolutely nothing I'm able to do to speed up the process of the anticheat's development. I am not going to apologize for helping find yet another AC for ET just because it hasn't magically rid us of any and all cheaters.
I know I've said this many times before, but if anyone has any ideas for an alternative method of preventing players from cheating, feel free to share them. The democrew is still around and would be more than happy to continue to contribute by reviewing demos and such. Send us GTV matchlinks with timestamps of suspicious moments, and we'll take a look at each and every one. If you prefer to play IRC wars instead, simply insist on using your own server, record demos, and store player IPs from every war.
It actually makes me a bit sad to see how much happiness this "news" seems to have brought some of you, as if you are pleased that CGAC is not as strong of an anticheat as expected. I certainly miss the days when anyone who even vaguely associated themselves with cheaters was flamed to shit and virtually excommunicated from the community. Times have changed, I guess.
P.S. I promise I will do what you asked by the end of the day (my time). :P
edit: lol nice edit by you in the last second
You couldn't even handle being an Assistant on GamesTV without abusing your rights and acting like a moron, so I suggest you resist the urge to spew such nonsense about real admins who are actually contributing like me, embarrassed, and szczurek.
I agree, the paranoia over cheaters has always been way excessive in this community, people accuse left and right all the time, the reality however is, that there really isn't more than a handful of cheaters out there, maybe 2 or 3 of which are actively cheating, 2 if at all, that is participating in leagues. Bottom line: Give people results and they'll stop bickering. It doesn't matter if it's just 2 or 3 bans a month, because clearly you won't be getting more than that, but even so, those 2 or 3 bans a month will give these people somewhat of a reassurance.
brb searching for new help
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do the same to my paper hehehehe
http://www.gamestv.org/event/46400-malibu-vs-outwit-the-final-one/
he used to play with cheat as program like nexus, so he had to turn it on before opening et. that means, if he didnt even use it, program was injected to et and cgac should catch it easly past month since we know its an old public hack.
"This proves nothing except that pupup0x should probably work on finding better ways to spend his time."
actually it proves that: u didnt update cgac banlist for over month or this program doesnt work and u trying to scare cheaters again. Both make u looking ridiculous.
Why should I even bother replying to you anyway when all you do is act like a troll who thinks this sort of thing is so hilarious?
pl nejm Wednesday, 19th March 2014 14:55
didnt watch, but dmg says enough, it must be a nice show. good job :D!
hurr durr cheating is so cool good job man nice show lol gg
btw didnt u say smth like it's gonna be serious anticheat with banlist updates at least every week?
http://englishforeveryone.org/Topics/Reading-Comprehension.htm
But is it identifying and disposing of them?
It is NOT the community's fault that ESL no longer supports ET.
And I don't think noone has any grudge of your efforts. Maybe you should have offered your admining in ESL rather than just let them wait to announce their revival cup? Meaning if you didn't have anything personal against ESL maybe you could have wanted to stay as an admin no matter what league we are in.. And about the revival cup: Yes I agree ESL should have never mentioned about the revival cup if they were not sure to even arrange it. That was a shitty call but then again our community been an ass for ESL so why should they even care? They are the biggest and they got the monopoly to do what they like. Logical. (Yes I think ESL wire would have been better yes I'm an ass and CGAC-big-expectations-now-a-dissappointed-hater) And yes this is not meant to be any kind of offence to you. You have done much for ET and thank you for that. Just think your reply was mostly bullshit.
maybe the cup thingy was like that in the end :-) but that's only logical. ET had CB at the time so i believe they didnt feel the need to offer something for everyone
Ladder activity was low because ClanBase ladders were more user-friendly and active, simple as that. In ESL, the system does not allow a player to be in more than one team in the same ladder and actually prevents you from joining any team for 5(?) days after leaving a team. I believe this is true for all games on ESL, so it's understandable that they won't change it just for ET, but that still doesn't make it a good reason to abandon us entirely.
Is running ladders the only way to support ET? Certainly not. I always liked ESL's cups and participated in them with my own teams whenever I could. But as I said before, they stopped running their regular cup seasons. Imagine if ClanBase was still around and decided to skip an EC/OC season. How do you think that would affect things? I wouldn't be very happy with CB myself.
When ESL realized that activity was declining, they started running tournaments such as the "Storm Assault" and "Evolution Challenge" instead of cup seasons. These were for the top 16 or so teams only, and the rest of us were left with random one-day cups which were poorly organized and hardly received any promotion or coverage at all.
While I was glad to see ESL possibly making a comeback, I personally had no desire to join them for a variety of reasons and would have teamed up with Crossfire instead if CyberGamer hadn't come along. I understand if I seem biased, and I probably am a bit due to my loyalty to ClanBase, but I hope we can all agree that promising us a "revival cup" then doing nothing at all is a bit of a sad move on their part.
Good luck with CyberGamer. I'm still having wet dreams someone would start a fan project as ET2 or splashdamage would start some kickstart thing for new ET. Honestly thats the only way to the salvation! (kickstart = make a budget which has to be fullfilled by donations and start making it.) Could mention a lot of games which have started from kickstarts and been a succes. Would ET get enough donates? I think yes. Will splashdamage ever do it? No, sadly
Then, they decided to make a comeback with the promise of a "revival cup" in the form of a ODC. A poll was held to decide the format (since no one in ESL has any actual knowledge about ET), and we were told that they were "preparing the event right now" on the 20th of January. Here we are exactly 2 months later, and not only is there no cup but there has been no word whatsoever from anyone at ESL at all.
Contrary to what you might think, I was pleased to hear that ESL was returning to ET and hopeful that things would work out. I even waited several weeks to announce CG EU ET Season 1 so that their one-day cup could get some exposure first. But hey, it looks like we've been abandoned yet again.
Anyone who still supports ESL and truly thinks that only they are capable of "saving the game" is either very delusional or simply has some sort of weird grudge against me and my efforts.
Dont get me wrong i respect ur work for the game, i just think that we cant get an better ac like esl wire, thats why i was hopefully waiting for esl comeback there are no insults about u or the other admins and btw i didnt know the story of esl in the past so its now understandable for me.
But yes, I agree. Very strange for ESL to never get back in touch with the revival cup.
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