because top players (in nowadays events) go to lans/tournaments where they have pc set upfor them by tournament sponsors. there are plenty who still have crt's at home unless they have monitors sponsored to them
yeah true you can pretty much find awesome crts for free these days too. My old work had a bunch, took home a 24' beast. Just can't justify have such a massive monitor these days!
not actually true, CRT can blur I assure you - I thank my old CRT for my glasses situation :)
LCDs are much better all-round. Space, size and colour definition are much nicer - even for elitist gaming and the 2ms delay is not enough to revert back to a CRT, ever :D
Not sure, but I couldn't find any shop in cze/svk or even germany which would have Puretrak talent to sell... and paying the same price of the mousepad for shipping is meh :(
It's €20 :) (unless you get lucky and notice when there's some huge discount on shipping and it's like €5...)
E: I bought my zowie from a Czech shop, but they got a base in Germany and they got the mice only there, so I'd have to pay the whole shipping which was like €15 if I wasn't lucky :P
It generally depends on the weight and size of package and ofc the type of sending as well, then it pretty much comes down from where to where u are sending, for most of the packages its around 10-15e if it isnt too heavy or big.
There are no retailers selling this piece in Hungary. If I wanted to order from eBay that would have costed me about 35€ + shipping (+ 30€ probably) which is a lot. I found one from 2nd hand like 2 years ago, but by the time I got in touch with the guy, it was already taken. My GF found this awesomeness at some 2nd hand trade hungarian site, bought in 2013 unused since then. 25€ , no shipping cost.
Thank you btw.
Sadly this monitor is living it's last days. Until it's not warmed for 10 minutes, I see like 7-10 white lines on the screen, very thin and not abusing, but still. And doesn't always want to turn in for 1st try :D.
However doing it's job fine since 2007. I got to find another one asap :) Still wouldn't trade for anything.
CRT's are great and great value cuz they are cheap as fuck mostly if you can find one :p though if you have the money the extra options alot of these modern high rate monitors have + higher res is nice too. depends on preference I guess and wallet i guess P
Yup.
I don't like to be a mean when it comes down to things I like and do daily. I play games 3-5 times a week. Still paying 300-400€ for a monitor that offers only a bit more than my lovely CRT, I find it odd.
I've got all my PureTrak talents either from eBay or amazon, never costing in total more than 40€ a piece. And completely new, I would never buy a 2nd hand mousepad - I was buying new one every year for like 3 or 4 years. Just by a brief research on ebay - there are plenty of them available at $35 starting point, including shipping.
That being said - Artisan Hayate > PuteTrak Talent, for me the only size goes in favor of Talent.
I don't care if it's unused or not - mousepad is one of the things I will never buy 2nd hand just to save 10€.
I guess you don't know how to search for things (or maybe shipping to Hungary costs 10 times as much as to Slovakia/Czech rep.):
October 2012 - bought Talent for GBP 17.89 + 6.51 (~$40)
September 2013 - bought another new one for GBP 17.36 + 2.98 (~$35)
both dispatched from UK, so no need to wait for custom clearance or any additional taxes.
Read on I think overclock.net that that Hayate pad catches dirt like crazy and people complain that they can't get it clean? atleast not clean enough to notice more friction
well, ye - I got mine since May and it got visibly dirty pretty quickly. But, it is black mousepad after all. I didn't notice any significant change its friction from its clean state, so I don't think it's that big of a problem.
I bought CRT with 20e around 2009(75hz support), forced it to 120hz and used it ~3 years. It started to has all kind of lines so I just bought led monitor when upgraded computer at same time. CRT still op.
Yeah, it's the Zowie mouse not the mousepad. When I was reading about the mice and couldn't decide which one to get, a lot of people wrote about a problem with the mouse at coloured mousepads (especially those fnatic/LoL etc SteelSeries mousepads)....
I've been testing different pads as you can see and my Zowie EC1 eVo also works only on black pads when I have to make fast turns People are also telling on the internet forums that zowie needs a single-coloured pad or the skipping problem is caused by its low LOD.
Yea, It's a combination of both I'd say. Once the Puretrak gets worn out after a few months it starts skipping a lot due to the low LOD on the Zowie mice. Like alex said he's using the black Puretrak and still had this problem after a few months.
So which mousepad do you use know? Because I'm planning on buying a Zowie mouse, but i don't want to have the same skipping issues you have encountered.
I use Puretrak Talent, I just got a new one. No skipping, but it's far from worn out obviously.
The problem lies with the Zowie mouse more than the mousepad imo, maybe you could question the longevity of the Puretrak talent pads, especially since alex started experiencing skipping only after a few months. But personally I always experienced skipping sooner or later with most pads and mice. For example I used Razer Mantis Speed for many years and it took probably 3+ years for it to completely wear out and I started getting severe skipping.
QCK+/Heavy is a classic that I personally enjoyed when I tried it. It has quite high friction though so it depends if you like that or not, it does not have the same type of glide that you would get with the Puretrak Talent for example. Personally I've found that I quite enjoy that in games like ET though but it's a matter of taste I guess.
Either way, get a single-coloured pad just to be sure.
Can confirm, Zowie EC2 here. I have skipping issues on the NEW razer goliathus, old (as seen on the very left in above picture) tracks perfectly fine. Though most of the skipping is caused by dirt on the pad, really. Throw it in a washing machine once a month or every two and you'll be fine.
Got one as well, white edition, although I love the feeling I must say performance wise there's no difference between qck heavy and puretrak talent. Also I have got a 160 hz lcd as well and a 120 hz benq monitor and 144 hz gsync monitor by asus and I prefer both lcds over the crt, the xl2420 because of sharpness and the asus rog swift p278q because of sharpness and smoothness. But that's probably due to the fact that I tend to play on native resolutions
How well are they?
Have tested and used loads in the past from pastic steelseries, icemats and cloth, been using the qck+ for quite a few years but started to go a bit now so whipped out my everglide titan dkt edition as it's still new from no idea how many years stored but rather good!
e:nice mouse without irony this time :D
monitor? BEST MONITOR EVER
20€ and able to pull of 160hz
>play with 17" monitor.
and its the easiest and cheapest way to get 120hz (even 160hz) without spending any money.
Do you?
Crt monitors has 0 ms input delay, and its totally blur-free
There are some really nice lcd monitors that has reduced blur and fast response time, but a crt will always be better for gaming.
LCDs are much better all-round. Space, size and colour definition are much nicer - even for elitist gaming and the 2ms delay is not enough to revert back to a CRT, ever :D
showing off mine
E: I bought my zowie from a Czech shop, but they got a base in Germany and they got the mice only there, so I'd have to pay the whole shipping which was like €15 if I wasn't lucky :P
Send stuff to and from the UK often x)
Thank you btw.
Sadly this monitor is living it's last days. Until it's not warmed for 10 minutes, I see like 7-10 white lines on the screen, very thin and not abusing, but still. And doesn't always want to turn in for 1st try :D.
However doing it's job fine since 2007. I got to find another one asap :) Still wouldn't trade for anything.
CRT's are great and great value cuz they are cheap as fuck mostly if you can find one :p though if you have the money the extra options alot of these modern high rate monitors have + higher res is nice too. depends on preference I guess and wallet i guess P
I don't like to be a mean when it comes down to things I like and do daily. I play games 3-5 times a week. Still paying 300-400€ for a monitor that offers only a bit more than my lovely CRT, I find it odd.
That being said - Artisan Hayate > PuteTrak Talent, for me the only size goes in favor of Talent.
2nd hand and 2nd hand could be sky and earth. It's UNUSED, literally.
I guess you don't know how to search for things (or maybe shipping to Hungary costs 10 times as much as to Slovakia/Czech rep.):
October 2012 - bought Talent for GBP 17.89 + 6.51 (~$40)
September 2013 - bought another new one for GBP 17.36 + 2.98 (~$35)
both dispatched from UK, so no need to wait for custom clearance or any additional taxes.
im just not gonna answer that if thats ok for you
????
Because I've never heard of that problem before.
yes, I got zowie CL evo, with a puretrak.
Thought my mouse was broken,
All felt bad, mousespeed, skipping, when i move my mouse fast it stopped / or up in air.
Changed to steels qck to try, and all worked :)
I couldn't play on my puretrak with EC1 evo. Don't know about other stuff though but prob the same ?
mine is the blue/white/black hexagon style pad and no problems at all
also used it on mantis speed, mostly green
no problems
The problem lies with the Zowie mouse more than the mousepad imo, maybe you could question the longevity of the Puretrak talent pads, especially since alex started experiencing skipping only after a few months. But personally I always experienced skipping sooner or later with most pads and mice. For example I used Razer Mantis Speed for many years and it took probably 3+ years for it to completely wear out and I started getting severe skipping.
QCK+/Heavy is a classic that I personally enjoyed when I tried it. It has quite high friction though so it depends if you like that or not, it does not have the same type of glide that you would get with the Puretrak Talent for example. Personally I've found that I quite enjoy that in games like ET though but it's a matter of taste I guess.
Either way, get a single-coloured pad just to be sure.
Have tested and used loads in the past from pastic steelseries, icemats and cloth, been using the qck+ for quite a few years but started to go a bit now so whipped out my everglide titan dkt edition as it's still new from no idea how many years stored but rather good!