New pc ( aeq )

by aeq • 11 Feb 2007, 13:55 • Journals
Hi,

Because I dont know anything about computers in the way some of you do I would like to ask you if some1 could help me define which things I should buy for my new computer.

Parts : This is where i need your help cuz i know shit about diff graph cards / processors.

Basically I want the best stuff avi so i can live with my computer for some years to come!

Pm or comment on the things u think would be good 4 me. thanks


ronner saves the day. thnx 4 allw help
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Silent_ 11 Feb 2007, 13:56
only geeks waste their money for computers!
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aeq 11 Feb 2007, 13:57
well, wasting parents money isnt that bad. I wont ever spend money on PC parts myself :P
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zerender 11 Feb 2007, 13:58
dell xps
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aeq 11 Feb 2007, 14:02
basically clicking all the expensive stuff @ the xps = best i guess? :D

lol u can get above 2k there :P
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profeet 11 Feb 2007, 13:58
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dmr 11 Feb 2007, 13:59
http://www.ikbenstil.nl/product_info.php?cPath=293&products_id=2287

edit: sure you can buy the newsest and best PC there is at the moment and pay around €2000 for it but it will be old in a couple of weeks/months so I suggest you build ur own PC so you can replace things easily when something better comes out... and I suggest you stay under the €1000 and save the other €1000 for a vacation or a car or something like that :]
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aeq 11 Feb 2007, 14:58
well, i get the money from my parents. i say i bought this and they give me money so i cant rlly spend 1000 on car since i wont have it!
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Rickk 11 Feb 2007, 13:59
Intel Core Duo 2 e6400 Geforce 7600GT 800 Euro's here save the rest for a car or smth
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abort 11 Feb 2007, 14:46
e6400 is crap, because of its cache :x
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Rickk 11 Feb 2007, 14:57
i have it and i have no probs but that my opinion
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evan 11 Feb 2007, 16:10
lol? show me an application which actively uses 4mb/8mb of cache at desktop level.
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Fisz 11 Feb 2007, 16:16
E6400 & E6300 have 4mb cache, but 2 mb cache is blocked.
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kiitos 11 Feb 2007, 14:00
your parents will give you 2000 euros for a pc :O
i have to buy my pcs with my own money :<
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crAdle 11 Feb 2007, 14:01
a pretty good set @ my profile if u want to pay ~1000 euro or bit more for parts and then u or some your nerd mate sets it up. PC set up will cost more.

If u want to spend all 2000 euros I don't know cos I haven't had enough money to look for that expensive pc's but:

pentium > amd's n' stuff, dualcore is a must nowadays
nVIDIA > Ati n' stuff
ram at least liek 2048

ps. overally it's good to buy parts and then set it up by yourself if u want pc to be good. usually ready pcs have liek 1 good part and the are adverticed with that and rest sux.
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aeq 11 Feb 2007, 14:05
but like i said i dont know anything about comps, so isnt it hard like opening your comp and putting al the stuff in?>
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crAdle 11 Feb 2007, 14:06
not as hard as u maybe think but if u have some mate that knows about that stuff u can ask him to help
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aeq 11 Feb 2007, 14:08
dotn rlly know gamers IRL
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Deactivated5924 11 Feb 2007, 14:34
dosn't have to be a gamer tbh

maybe someone from your work / your parents work for that matter that knows about building computers
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aeq 11 Feb 2007, 14:38
Well i live in a frat house and they know shit all about comps and they dont give a damn so i think i would just go to the shop :P
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Deactivated5924 11 Feb 2007, 14:43
that reminds me, alot of stores will build a custom PC for you too, if you buy the parts from their store i'm pretty sure almost all stores will build it for you, atleast thats the case in Estonia.

some stores will even build it if the parts aren't bought from them, but for a fee


so just take some PC from some store, go there and the parts that don't suit you and are shittier (that's the case usually with pre-built PC's, the videocard or sth is really weak)
and change them
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aeq 11 Feb 2007, 14:46
k, thanks for the help <3
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crawazaky 11 Feb 2007, 14:53
yup, same in france
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Neglect 12 Feb 2007, 11:22
pffffff thnx aaklord.
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Yossarian 11 Feb 2007, 14:26
pentium my ass

don't mix shit pentium name with Core Duo's
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Deactivated5924 11 Feb 2007, 14:45
it's core2duo xD
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crawazaky 11 Feb 2007, 14:54
yes and its Intel C2D not intel pentium C2D :)
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eXtr_ 11 Feb 2007, 14:03
Asus P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP iP965, SATA2 RAID
Western Digital 250GB SATA300 16MB, WD2500YS
Western Digital Externe Harddisk 250GB 8MB USB2.0, WDG1U2500E
Thermaltake Big Tower Armor VA8000BWS E-ATX no PSU (zwart)
Sony Floppydrive 1,44MB 3,5" (zwart)
Samsung TFT Monitor 940BF 19", DVI (zilver)
NEC DVD-/+/RAM AD-7170S 18x/18x/8x DL Bulk (zwart)
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40GHz FSB1066 4MB Box
Enermax Powersupply EG651AX-VH 550W
Creative Geluidskaart X-Fi Platinum 7.1 Retail
Corsair 2x1GB DDR2 SDRAM PC6400 CL5.0 TwinX
Asus Videokaart PCI-e GeForce 8800GTS 640MB GDDR3 2xDVI

That's what I've ordered some days ago, need a new one too...

Price: +/- 2000 €
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frozz. 11 Feb 2007, 14:16
this makes me depressed :
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eXtr_ 11 Feb 2007, 14:20
o'rly? How come? :P
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frozz. 11 Feb 2007, 15:00
because I ll never have that amount money to afford a PC like that...but anyway,i dont need a comp like that;)
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DtSje 11 Feb 2007, 14:05
If you really want to spend 2000, go with core duo 2 e6600 or higher, 2 gigs of ram, and you can probably get 2X Geforce 8800GTX in sli mode too. That machine would be DX10 ready and would last a good while at high settings.
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aeq 11 Feb 2007, 14:06
well i can claim a pc from my parents again so i want a good 1. but not knowing how/what to get limits me so u usually just went to dell.com and ordered something that looked quite OK. But since i want better now i dunno
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ph4ge 11 Feb 2007, 14:06
ask Ronner, he helped me with mine that ill soon order:

http://www.cool-prices.nl/ :

63.45 Zalman ZM460-APS, 460W (ATX12V 2.01)
293.95 intel core 2 E6600 (2x2,40ghz., 266MHz. QDR FSB, 64Kb. L1, 4MB L2, Boxed)
219.95 Corsair 2048MB DDR2 (2x1gb) pc5300 CL4 (VS2GBKIT6667D2)
124.10 Asus p5b-e, P965 (ATX, PCI-e, Sound, LAN, SATA II, RAID)
86.95 Seagate 320GB SATA II 7200RPM 16mb Barracuda 7200.10 (ST3320620AS)
414.95 Asus GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB DDR3 (PCI-e, 2x DVI) EN8800GTS/HTDP
48.95 Cooler Master Centurion 534 (ATX, Geen PSU, Zwart)
27.95 Lite-On DRW6S160P Zwart
8,95 Verzendkosten

1289.20
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aeq 11 Feb 2007, 14:07
danke,will do
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DtSje 12 Feb 2007, 09:59
Change the GTS to a GTX and add a second and you have the best PC money can buy atm pretty much.
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st4tic 11 Feb 2007, 14:10
if u got 2k wait for quadcore imo D:
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frozz. 11 Feb 2007, 14:16
it's out already

price: ~1000€
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ReZoN 11 Feb 2007, 14:55
u jebote u slovenija 900€ !
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frozz. 11 Feb 2007, 15:01
ma ova djubrad krade...7600kn ovdje,sve je skuplje a place su ono...mah,necu komentirat
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dejx 11 Feb 2007, 14:16
Asus P5W64 WS PRO | 295€
CORE 2 DUO E6400, 2.130 GHz | 230€
2x Ram OCZ 1 GB KIT DDR2 ram, 2X512MB PC2-6400, 800MHz | 220€
2x BFG GeForce 8800GTS 640MB GDDR3 | 960€
MAXTOR 320GB 7200 SATA-II/300 16MB | 101€
Pioneer DVD+/-RW DL 16X BULK | 40€
Thermaltake Tsunami VA3000BWA | 126€
Revoltec "Chromus II" Star Series 500W | 102€

ALL: a litlle bit more than 2000€
PS: without one graphic card: 1594€
PS2: prices r slovenians
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aeq 11 Feb 2007, 14:17
but if i do it in this way i have to put it in myself right. which i cant :D. cant i order a whole PC with diff. performence parts?
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Echo 11 Feb 2007, 14:28
ye you can order different parts and tell the shop to install everything.. "assemblage"
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aeq 11 Feb 2007, 14:29
that would benice
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ReZoN 11 Feb 2007, 14:54
disk MAXTOR ni vec tega je kupu segate :) in ocz < G.i.e.l < GOD RAM
;)
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dejx 11 Feb 2007, 15:14
g.e.i.l*

OCZji majo dobr timing poglej teste usaj bolse kot geili zihr goodram pa res niso slabi zej za razliko med oczji pa ne vem pa se hladilna jedra imajo dobra :P
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Sgt.Pepper 11 Feb 2007, 14:24
Intel Core 2 QQuad 6600 2.4GHz Socket LGA775, 8MB, BOXED
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Asus P5W DH Deluxe,I975X,Socket-775,ATX, SATAIIx7, Dual-GbLAN, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex16
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Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC8000 512MB CL5 Unbuffered,2.2V,64Megx64,240pin,1000mhz
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Samsung SpinPoint T133 400GB SATA2 16MB 7200RPM
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Gainward GeForce 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3, PCI-Express, "BP8800GTX-768-TV-DD"
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dejx 11 Feb 2007, 14:31
mine ram < Cruciall ballistix
hard disk < maxtor
GTX < 2xGTS but not in price
duo < quad
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banaan 11 Feb 2007, 14:31
Haal een pc van rond de 1500

en die andere 500 euro kan jij je geheugen ofzo later upgraden !
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mjo 11 Feb 2007, 14:38
You should wait till the R600 from ATI is avaible. If you don't wanna wait, buy 2x Asus 8800GTX in SLI and as CPU Core 2 Duo E6600/6700 with 2gb Ram. Should be good enough...:P
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Echo 11 Feb 2007, 14:48
good enough for what? getting benchmark records? jesus... :P
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abort 11 Feb 2007, 14:46
<--profile
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CorpseMaggot 11 Feb 2007, 15:14
damn u are miljonäääri? :o
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Boefje 11 Feb 2007, 16:30
He sells cheats to people for €150.
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Deactivated3050 11 Feb 2007, 14:51
Asus Striker Extreme, LGA775, nForce 680i SLI Chipset
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Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 2.93 GHz 775 processor
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2x Gainward GeForce 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3, PCI-Express, "BP8800GTX-768-TV-DD"
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Corsair Dominator TWIN2X8888C4DF 2048MB, DDR2,2x1GB(KIT),DHX,E.P.P, CL4-4-4-12-2T
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Western Digital Raptor X 150GB SATA 16MB 10000RPM
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ReZoN 11 Feb 2007, 14:53
e6700
Asus P5W DH Deluxe
OCZ OR GIEL !!! - 2 g
wd 400 G
nVIDIA geforce 800gtx ASUS
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Deactivated3024 11 Feb 2007, 15:05
xfx is better than asus
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Limbonic 11 Feb 2007, 16:53
6700 -> too expensive, better take a 6600 if u rly need that 4mb cache, otherwise e6400 are good too.
the asus board is ok, but a ds3 costs about 100€ less offers quite good performance.
that ram recommendation is crap. g-skill gbhz and cellshock rams are good. actually all mems with micron d9 chips are good. 2gb is not that important if you got a core2duo processor...
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Shnaps 11 Feb 2007, 14:53
Wait for AMD4x4. The 4x4 platform takes two dual core AMD chips and has 4 16x pci-e slots, so that's 4 cores and 4 gpus.

If you're set on getting Intel dual core, at least the prices will drop from the release of AMD4x4.
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Budha 11 Feb 2007, 14:53
perfo will fly like superman and come build it for u np
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bimmer 11 Feb 2007, 14:59
zomg u are stupid to put so much money on computer :x
jesus man
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HorRible 11 Feb 2007, 15:03
http://tweakers.net/reviews/663/4

If u can do LEGO u can put a computer together.
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Joe 11 Feb 2007, 16:39
Its more like Meccano, but yes he speaks truth its simple to build a pc!
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evan 11 Feb 2007, 16:11
hi aeq, you might be half decent now! :D
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Limbonic 11 Feb 2007, 16:24
ok nubz, wasting parent's money = gay.
whatever, i'd not spend much more than 1k euros.
answer the foll0wing questions and i'll post some configuration...

- will you be using your old HDD, monitor, mouse, n stuff
- are you willing to overclock your CPU ( -> cheaper, riskier, c00ler )
- do u need dvd rw, floppy, cd/dvd drive?

-> are your old parts SATA compatible?
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xety 11 Feb 2007, 17:04
alter du pro hast ja keinen plan.
übertakten is sowieso selbstverständlich.
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Limbonic 11 Feb 2007, 17:12
also nicht bei jedem!
ich kenne genug die sowas nie machen würden, ich meine ich hab meinen e6400 auch auf 3,5 rennen mit peltier, also net meckern :P
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aeq 11 Feb 2007, 23:21
i made a list ( actually Ronner did ) :
Artnr. Artikel Aantal Prijs
6469 Intel Core 2 E6600 ( 2,40GHz. , 266MHz. QDR FSB, 64Kb. L1, 4MB L2, Boxed) € 291,90
7316 Seagate 320GB SATA II 7200RPM 16MB Barracuda 7200.10 (ST3320620AS) € 173,90

7800 Asus P5N-E SLI, nForce 650i (ATX, PCI-e, Sound, LAN, SATA II, RAID, 1394) € 107,70

7669 Asus GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB DDR3 (PCI-e, 2x DVI) EN8800GTS&#8260;HTDP € 414,95

7550 Corsair 2048MB DDR2 (2x1GB) PC6400 CL4 4-4-4-12 (TWIN2X2048-6400C4) € 235,80

7430 Zalman ZM600-HP 600W (ATX, Heatpipe) € 103,95

7977 Antec NSK6000 (ATX, No PSU, Zilver&#8260;Zwart) € 52,10

4460 Creative Progamer G500 5.1 Speaker 5xSatelite + Subwoofer € 172,95

5256 Samsung 19 inch 997MB Dynaflat CRT Monitor (SM997MB) € 182,95
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Neglect 12 Feb 2007, 11:28
thats fine (if you dont mind ripping off your parents)! Only I dont get it why you shouldnt buy a nice Antec case equipped with a good psu. Buying that Asus psu thingy, dunno... The speaker set you dont need since you just use your headset all the time I guess, if you do want a speakerset and you want to save some space you can go for the Z-2300 ( http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/NL/NL,CRID=2173,CONTENTID=9372 )
Oh and why is the harddisk so expensive? (I sell Hitachi 320GB SATA2 16MB cache for about €100 in my expensive shop :P Maybe its a difference I didnt notice. http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/144595/Hitachi-Deskstar-T7K500-320GB-(7200RPM-SATA-II-16MB-NCQ-RoHS)-prijzen.html)
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aeq 12 Feb 2007, 14:14
2 times hardrive and indeed i could spare on the sound. but i need good sound for music :P
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Tites 11 Feb 2007, 17:20
hmm... just checked your profile and the stuff you have now isn't really bad...
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dejx 11 Feb 2007, 18:22
lol, its better than mine
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