Mouse friction

by funes • 13 Feb 2007, 18:33 • Journals
I have some problem with mouse friction: When a go from left to right <-> then my mouse is like hanging and then it goes futher (like ingame lag). I have only noticed it in windows, not ingame (tested it in cs1.6 and didn't see any mouse friction). I thought dat it might have something to do with my hz but its only at 85 (in windows) and 100hz in cs


Can someone help me out?


(Overdrive, RaZiel maybe :p)


thx in advance
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KvakaC 13 Feb 2007, 18:43
what type of mouse do you have ?
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funes 13 Feb 2007, 18:48
Razer diamondback Pro

mousemat: Everglide Titan
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kiitos 13 Feb 2007, 19:12
i have the same thing when i copy something from irc, but thats the only place where i get this problem and i have my mouse set to 500 hz. I got this problem when i changed from 125 hz to 500hz
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TsK 13 Feb 2007, 19:47
the friction is between the surface and the mouse... That has nothing to do with laggy behavior, unless you move it like "laggy"
I think it's called "jitter"what you have. But of you don't have it ingame, why bother?

=]

The behavior you describe though, reminds me of the mouse @ work (I cannot change mouse properties there) where prolly the high windows speed and "the enhanced pointer precision enabled" are causing the f*ck*d *p behavior.
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overdrive 13 Feb 2007, 20:03
possible solutions:

*turn off vertical sync at your drivers (catalyst or rivatuner)
*play high fps, 76 is least you need to have a somewhat fast response.
*r_finish "1"
*start>control panel>mouse, turn off 'increased pointer precision'
*dont use direct input aka mf_init unless you have low unstable fps (if you have a crappy pc, its actually very nice to play with as the buffer collects mouseinputs while your fps is lagging. Once you do render a frame all the input is then added to that frame. I only advice this to ppl playing 43 unstable.)
*check the lens of your mice if theres nothing on the lens (preferably with the mouse turned off if you still want to enjoy pr0n when ur 60)
*respons time of your mouse is depend on fps / mouserate
i still believe syncing of fps/mouserate is important, still a stable polling rate is more important then a higher polling rate. 250 gives a very stable polling rate always in between 200 and 250 hz, wheras 500hz and 1000hz will have you playing somewhere in between 200 and 1000hz.
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overdrive 13 Feb 2007, 20:25
Mf_init.exe
Sent by dundy on Tuesday 13th February 2007, 21:22

I have 100fps stable so should I not use mf_init?
And about mouse hz I use now 1000hz but would 500hz be better?
Mouse mx518 <-

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Dear Dundy,

Quotedont use direct input aka mf_init unless you have low unstable fps


tnx for wasting 1 minute of my life

yours sincerely,
overdrive
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sliqk 13 Feb 2007, 21:23
why dont you advice mf_init.exe?
i have been playing with mf_init.exe for a while now and i like it pretty much. what's wrong with it?
yes i have stable high fps
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overdrive 13 Feb 2007, 22:44
it delays your input, much the same way as vertical sync does. the higher the fps, the fewer the input delay.
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funes 15 Feb 2007, 04:35
so better turning vsync off ? @100 fps and 100 hz ?
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overdrive 15 Feb 2007, 04:42
yes turn it off, but at 100fps/100hz you will get an annoying line on your screen. You will notice it when you play with it a few minutes, its like tearing, its really annoying. It only happens when your fps = display refresh.
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funes 15 Feb 2007, 14:33
Yeah I noticed it, therefore I put vsync on but I still had that tearing effect. So better put 100 fps and 120hz refreshrate with vsync off ?

Btw I did a test and I have more "friction" when moving my mouse with 125hz (USB) than 500hz and with 125 hz I notice "friction" ingame... but with 500 hz not. But that doesn't mean there is no friction ?

(Tested it in RTCW and cs1.6)
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