EC/OC signup - rating 9/10

by Darky • 13 Mar 2007, 08:37 • Journals
From the CB site :

Note: 10 being the best clan there is and 8 still being a European top clan.
It will be publicly viewable in the list of subscribed clans, so please be honest.

suXus esports 40 / 40 10
overdose gaming 18 / 18 9
clan west 3 / 3 9
Negative-image 15 / 15 9
elite 22 / 22 9
Impact Gaming 1 / 1 10
Team Exilium 17 / 15 9

Always funny to see the ratings that teams are giving themselves. I guess dignitas needs a rating of 12 then. Imo CB should punish liars by moving them to OC div. delta.

Well, at least I got smth to laugh about on my way to work ;)
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Arachon 13 Mar 2007, 08:38
It's always funny :)

But I don't think punishing them by moving them to 6rd division will be very popular by the 6st division teams ;)

Heck, we almost beat suXus, so we must be 9 :D But we're not, IMO :)
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swine 13 Mar 2007, 08:49
if you are playing you will get a 10!
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Sainted 13 Mar 2007, 11:37
almost.. right.

http://gravity.pri.ee/stats/2007-02-28-suXus_vs_.ALIS-frost_comp_b2-sw_goldrush_te.html
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Arachon 13 Mar 2007, 11:40
I don't get what you are saying.
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Sainted 13 Mar 2007, 11:45
Well you say you almost won, but were do you base this "almost" on, on the fact that you set an "okay" time on goldrush?
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Arachon 13 Mar 2007, 11:50
I'm basing that on, that we made a mistake on goldrush and "only" set a time of 8 minutes something. I am also basing it on the fact that I felt we were better than them.

If we would have won goldrush, I also think we would have won radar.

That's all :)
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Sainted 13 Mar 2007, 11:56
Yeah you got a point, but this is ET and anything can happen in a match ;p

And about suXus giving themselves a 10, it's because ClanBase blocked the way to EC twice for a lot of the players in the team, so they writed a 10 "to take no risks" ;p
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decem 13 Mar 2007, 08:41
zeroPoint! Gaming 20 / 20 9 Only
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Darky 13 Mar 2007, 08:42
exactly - thats a decent rating - beaten just by the EC Winner dignitas who deserves a 10. So?

For a better understanding - this should point out the ratings that are bullshit ;)
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swine 13 Mar 2007, 08:48
the ratings are bullshit and the admins dont care about it.
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decem 13 Mar 2007, 08:48
I found it bit ironic though ;)
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decem 13 Mar 2007, 08:44
AuXiliA.ET 30 / 0 10 Only - new team has 0 officials played? why not every team just add all the officials the multigaming has played 8-DD lets see, we have 10 ET squads, they have all played 5 officials, wohoo, we can add 50 officials to our EC request.

Impact Gaming 1 / 1 10 Only - 1 official played + 10 rating \o/
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swine 13 Mar 2007, 08:47
+ they lost their first official
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decem 13 Mar 2007, 08:48
8-D
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Viax 13 Mar 2007, 08:51
But they have mystic oMiGaWd.
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decem 13 Mar 2007, 08:53
well im not saying they are bad team, just overrating themself as usual.
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Viax 13 Mar 2007, 09:00
Not as much as the scene overrates them.
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squalli 13 Mar 2007, 09:24
But they have mystic!
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Nizou 13 Mar 2007, 11:11
But they don't have Lepari!
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Keppada 13 Mar 2007, 11:11
and they have tiigeri....
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tactics 14 Mar 2007, 02:04
Sure it's a bit dishonest, but you're promoting yourself, obviously there's going to be an exaggeration. Especially if you already know everyone else is going to give themselves an +4 rating.

Besides, if they are considered to have a chance to beat dignitas, at least a 9 rating is in order. :)

And finally, let me quote: "Ratings are almost totally irrelevant for EC stuff."
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decem 14 Mar 2007, 09:09
yeah I know, its same every season. :p
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snuble 13 Mar 2007, 09:52
what are u talking about?

ahhh..

impact gaming..

pfff..

thought a second u were talking about auxilia.. who actually have won all their 3 offis.. 3 aint aint much of course, but regarding matches and not playernames, we should be better ranked then impact..lol:D
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decem 13 Mar 2007, 15:35
yeah.. 3 offis.. on the page it says 30, not bad. point proven.
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snuble 13 Mar 2007, 15:40
30? wow.. must be a typing mistake:D

dont think we can fool anyone in having 30 offis:D

but atleast we have done good in the offis we have played. And i do hope it will continue during ETmasters.

But i totaly agree that the only team who should be ranked 10 is dignitas. After that it should be 8 and 9 on the "next-best teams"... so we should have ranked us 8 or 9.. since we arent really dignitas.. (yet.::>>>)
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decem 13 Mar 2007, 15:41
typing mistake or a way to try and fool the admins..
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snuble 13 Mar 2007, 15:47
if u belive we will fool the admins by saying we got 30 offis, when im sure the CB admins who know most of us pretty good, know that we havent played 30 offis, u cant belive the cb admins have much of a brain..

dont worry decem, im sure that the cb admins know what they need to know about the teams they will give direct invite or qualifier match for EC.

and im sure its not how many offis they have stated on the CB site, or what rank they give themself that will be the reason for picking teams.
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decem 13 Mar 2007, 15:57
I know, but why lie @ those if u can just insert the right stuff? especially @ offis which actually can be true. its not impossible for a team to have 30 officials played.
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sexyhot 13 Mar 2007, 09:26
we played 3 officials. vib, a+r, neg image. we won all. so thats not the point
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frozz. 13 Mar 2007, 11:01
Beating those 3 teams means u have to put rating 10?
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swine 13 Mar 2007, 08:48
same procedure as every season, james.
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mergy 13 Mar 2007, 08:51
is it for spring or?
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indu 13 Mar 2007, 08:55
Darky but it is funny also when you set up new mix team before EC and you have played 0 matches. But everyone knows you have played before in EC. Normaly these teams gona die after 1-2 group games
And only dignitas aka idle.ee is 10 ...


etc
EuroCup XIV
Amonekys

EuroCup XII
pokemoz

EuroCup XI
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 11:25
amonkeys didnt play any games before EC?
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indu 13 Mar 2007, 11:58
http://www.clanbase.com/claninfo.php?cid=1252413&wars=1
hard but true
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 12:50
why would someone play official präcs in cb?
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indu 13 Mar 2007, 13:12
http://www.clanbase.com/rules.php?lid=2830

Clans are selected for EuroCup participation based on their stability (i.e. the ability to complete leagues) and their strength as proven by official match results (or the results of their players in other clans). Practice results are irrelevant
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 13:15
u dont need to play officials to get a direct invite to EC. Officials are one of the most overrated things in ET
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indu 13 Mar 2007, 13:20
and what i need to do then when i want to play in EC ?
suck admins **** and ignore the rules again ?
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 13:22
just go to some skilled team and prac with them
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indu 13 Mar 2007, 13:23
how can i know is the team skilled or not `?
by results or by .... ?
i dont want to play in 3weeks clan like you did
and call it skilled team.
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 14:09
1st u need to get some skill to get in to some good team. afaik i havent played in any 3weeks clans but im sure u know this better than i do like most euros do
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indu 13 Mar 2007, 14:17
i have some skill but how i can be sure that the clan wich i want to join is skilled and it will be play in EC ?
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 14:24
try get in to some team that have good players
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indu 13 Mar 2007, 14:29
and how do i know are the players good or bad ?
Cause they played in last EC ?
Maybe a newcommer team can be better vs oldies ?
Etc Incomplete.
No EC players but what the hell they got at least 1 win in group stages/Amonkeys not. And they are still playng imo !
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 14:50
When u get more skill u can tell which players are good and who suck.
Sure newcommers can be better than oldies.
Incomplete has smth like 5 players that have played 3 years this game so i wouldnt take them as an example for being newcommers. Many of them has also played in the same clan before inc, if u didnt know that.
A-monkeys won one match and also lost one match in last EC and after we won our game we folded, if u didnt know that.
Inc doesnt play atm but they are starting to play again soon, if u didnt know that.
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indu 13 Mar 2007, 17:38
the very last question :D (when you aswer correctly)
How can cb admins know is your clan good or bad ?
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 21:11
Admins should ask the players who play in the top competition level of ET. Admins dont play this game, they just spec and make useless comments every now and then.
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indu 13 Mar 2007, 22:08
lol :D wrong answer.
How can admins decide who are top players who not ...
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 22:30
well ask dignitas/amenti/zp/impact who would they like to play against in EC
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Viax 13 Mar 2007, 13:33
Not true. How good a team is doesn't necissarily depend on how good they are in offi's, but it does matter for EC. Matches in EC are, surprise, officials. If your team plays well in pracs but doesn't win offi's, do you really think they deserve to play in EC?
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 14:05
All i said is that u dont need to play offis to get in EC and offis are lol.
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Viax 13 Mar 2007, 14:34
Well, if you don't play any offi's prior to EC, how would you know your team can stand the pressure ( or whatever other reason teams have to fuck up officials ) when playing offi's in EC? How good a team is doesn't depend on offi's, but offi's and pracs are still completely different matches in most cases.
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 15:00
u think that top-teams would lose matches because the players have to much pressure because of ettv and some random sc is in the server?
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Viax 13 Mar 2007, 16:51
No, but not every team in EC is a real top-team.
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 17:20
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Viax 13 Mar 2007, 17:25
Common, you can't seriously believe that every team that gets into EC without winning any officials is a topteam, just because they have famous players? The officials aren't necissary, but everyone can see how a team did in offi's, they can't in pracs.
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 18:11
In your next reply i would like to know where did i say that team with famous players is automatically a topteam. Why whould people need to see how good teams are before the EC? Once again all i said was that u dont need to play officials to get in EC.
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Viax 13 Mar 2007, 18:36
Well, I assume it would be helpfull to know wether a team is good before getting into EC. The reason certain teams get invited without playing any officials is usually because they have famous players.

So, a random team with 6 famous players forms about a month before EC. Noone has ever seen them play, yet they get to play EC based on names alone. During EC people get to see the team play for the first time, and the team gets raped by every other team in EC. Does that sound fair to you? I'd prefer seeing how good the team was before letting them play EC, instead of giving them an invite based on names.

Sure, you don't have to play officials to get into EC, but it would be helpfull.
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 21:05
Thats true that the team with famous players have advantage when they are trying to get in EC but still where did i say that team with famous players is automatically a top-team?

You would prefer to see how good they are before letting them play in EC? You nor the people on xfire dont make that decision and that decision should be made by the players who play in the top competition level of ET, not those nub cb admins. Not every team with 6 famous players and 0 officials gets raped in EC but if the admins would ask the TOP-PLAYERS/TEAMS what they think about the invites EC could be nicer.
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Viax 13 Mar 2007, 21:10
True, it's obviously the top players that know the scene best, but the problem you face with that is that it's more biased compared to, more ignorant, CB admins picking the teams. That doesn't mean "people like me" who "don't play on a high level" ( nice being subjective ) can't have a valueble opinion either. I also played most teams in the last EC, why would I actually have to play EC to judge the teams I play?

And you're right; you didn't say top players make a top team, eventhough that's still the general opinion.
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torspo 13 Mar 2007, 21:25
Yeah sure you can have valuable opinions and u can judge the teams as much as u want but those decisions should be made by the people who play in EC, just because they are playing in EC.

I wouldnt see it to be fair if only top-teams had a change to say how this game should be played in competition level and how the game should evolve when there are thousands of other etplayers playing this game.
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Matias 13 Mar 2007, 09:00
you shouldn't care.
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Rafiki 13 Mar 2007, 09:30
Give yourself high ratings & select the 'EC only' option guarantees you of playing next EC according to Adacore!
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Adacore 13 Mar 2007, 09:31
kholic's pretty much got it. Ratings are almost totally irrelevant for EC stuff. Their major use is OC sorting of the unknown teams. We get hundreds of signups and can't possibly accurately rate them all ourselves, so we ask them for some help. It also allows known OC teams who are on division boundaries to indicate if they want a relatively high div or a low div.
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Ronner 13 Mar 2007, 10:43
then perhaps you should not have them rate on a scale of 1 to 10 but simply ask "In which league do you prefer to play!"
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chosen 13 Mar 2007, 10:52
Just add a comment for the supervisor about it - maybe it works - atleast it should according to achivements and matches u had.
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Ronner 13 Mar 2007, 10:58
what's wrong with just asking where they want to play if all this rating system does is to help admins where ppl should be playing. Just ask where they want to play and see how it fits. Should make your lives a lot easier than browsing throught the "We pwn everyone"-wannabe-ratings.
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chosen 13 Mar 2007, 11:09
ye, i totally agree m8 :) I just wanted to say it's already possible to say "we want to be 1st division" and stuff, not with rating but with a comment you can add when u sign up your team
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Adacore 13 Mar 2007, 12:26
How do they know how many leagues there will be? If we have 100 signups total we could only have 2 leagues, but 400 signups might mean 8.
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cheasy 13 Mar 2007, 09:55
who cares, dignitas will win anyways :P
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cheasy 13 Mar 2007, 10:13
in their dreams.
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Ronner 13 Mar 2007, 10:39
QuoteImo CB should punish liars by moving them to OC div. delta.


So who are you punishing here? The liars or the fair ones in div.delta ;-)
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Arachon 13 Mar 2007, 10:48
copycat
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Ronner 13 Mar 2007, 10:48
fuckface monkeytard
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Arachon 13 Mar 2007, 10:49
poop!
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Ronner 13 Mar 2007, 10:50
chaaaaarllieeeeee!!!!
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frozz. 13 Mar 2007, 11:09
Ratings are totally unimportant for EC anyway.
But darky,since 8 is still top european clan take a look on teams with rating 8. Do they deserve it? No.
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xety 13 Mar 2007, 11:24
if u rate urself with 9 no wonder others rate themselves with 8 or 10. ;>
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Sainted 13 Mar 2007, 11:40
Sainted goes Q4:

70 Sainted 0 / 0 1 No

underrated!!
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