Idiots.

Why are people such idiots, seriously, why? And why can't we say what we want? If I want to call you rectum sucking puss buckets I should damn well be able to, even if you are a customer. Why can't people just accept that I don't like them and not be offended when I deliver a insult riddled verbal barrage? Why do people feel uncomfortable after such outbursts? What's wrong with not liking the majority of people qua people? Why are the public so oblivious to everyone and everything? When I go walking out in the street I'm weary of everything: other people, cars, bikes, drunks. Why the fuck can't you be?

Anyway, people suck, don't they?
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Im watching fin - por replay atm.
what are we supposed to answer?
You don't find people annoying?
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what has the world done to you to have made you so angry with yourself and society?
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The world is what it is. I'm not angry, I just find it amusing, and at times frustrating. People think they're evolved, that their civilised, that they're special. They're not, they're all as selfish as each other.

Let me clarify, it's the person I hate, it's the people.
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Uh no, I don't think nobody understands me, in fact it's the opposite, I don't fucking understand eveyrone else.
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dont worry sock, thats what everyone says on here when someone talks about something besides gaming
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I mean, to some extent I do understand. People are selfish, idiots. They like to act in their own self interests, they don't acknowledge people they don't know. We like to think we're civilized, but we're not, we're all just over grown monkeys. You can't trust anybody except maybe your family, but even then it depends what with. You don't owe anyone shit, and other people operate on that principle, so unless you want to be fucked over you should too.
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i do understand a bit, but it seems ur angry with something/someone, maybe professional help? :p
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Angry with someone? No! Angry at anything? No! Frustrated and disappointed at the collective abilities of the public? Yes!
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it is what it is, and this is not the way to go if you want to change it.
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isn't it kinda the same? your text sounds emo atleast :p
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Not really. I'm not saying I don't understand a person. I can get on fine with a person, almost any person, from any social, economic, ethnic background. It's people I think are idiots.
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but it are the persons who form the people :D
so if u like every person you like the people
anyway i think i missunderstood :)
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Think of it as having some chocolate, some steak, some cheese, any and all the foods you dearly love. Now, individually, they all taste great, they're satisfying and delicious. But combine them all into a fuckpot of culinary disaster, and you're left with something that tastes as if it came from the rotting anus of a badger.

It's the same with people.
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signed.

btw: interesting journal.
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now i got what you mean :D
and yeah your right..but the question is: what can you do?
probably nothing, so why bothering?
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You can do something though. Next time someone at the bar asks for a wine and soda, then complains when you give them a wine and soda, telling you that he wanted a wine and a soda seperate, you can say "You know, you're an idiot. How many times do you think people order a wine and soda? Do you think I'm some kind of fucking psychic? Do I look like i'd want to delve into the cesspool which you call a mind? It is so hard to rise up from your narcissistic, self important life and realise that other people actually exist? You are an idiot.". I mean, that's an over reaction, but even if you were to say "Next time you order that tell me you want the soda seperate" they would more likely than not get offended and ask to see the manager.

When you're walking down the street, how many times have you had someone just completely ignore the fact that you were walking and have them bump into you? Or how many times have you had people shout something or make a comment as they walk by? Etc.
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nice text :D
but actually i'm too tired to understand it, better gonna sleep now..i bet your anger is gone tomorrow anyway ;)
gn8 and don't care too much :P
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what happened?!
I've always known people are idiots, but if you're asking what specifically happened for me to write this journal:

I was on a bike ride. Saw some guy across the road from me, I didn't pay too much attention to him. Headphones were blasting out some musical motivation, then for some reason I got the urge to turn around. There was that guy, about half a metre from my back wheel, chasing me as fast as he could with a hate filled look on his face. I promptly accelerated down to the roundabout and turned my bike around. He was about 100 metres in front, walking on the the other side of the road again, so I cycled back up towards him and gave him the finger. He did not take kindly to this. Again he chased me, I had to work a bit harder since it was uphill, but I got away comfortable.

Later on some people were walking in front of me, weaving all over the pavement. They weren't drunk, they were just weavers. I nearly crashed into the woman and the man she was with gave me a fucking dirty look, I just rode on. I should have told him to learn how to walk in a straight line but I was all chased out.
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lol at the first guy, thats rather scary that he would chase you for no apparent reason, not once, but twice... perhaps he overheard your music and just wanted to know the name of song, or perhaps you have an uncanny resemblance to a guy that had unprotected sex with his sister... as for the second guy, you shoulda stopped and had one of your rants, he would have admitted it was that stupids cows fault rather than your own... but yes, people can be idiots!
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The second time was because I deliberately gave him the finger. I considered blazing past him down the hill and shouting "Yeee Hawwww!" but there's an up slope afterwards and he might have caught me ;<!

You can't rant at people though. People are idiots, if you rant at them, they won't rant back, they'll hit you. And the ones that won't will delve into the kind of verbiage reserved for late night cable T.V, and that just isn't interesting.
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i think the finger was the better option of the two, the yeehaw would have most likely made him laugh rather than increase his blood pressure... you could however have done both at the same time, that would have been special.. but then again, he probably would have chased you... my hats off to you anyway for turning round and giving him the finger... i would have just continued riding...
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I felt pretty safe in my ability to outrun him, I would have done it if I wasn't. I don't like fighting randoms in the street.
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"People are idiots, if you rant at them, they won't rant back, they'll hit you."

QFT. That's got to be the most annoying part of school. Also I hate the way how people see all discussions as arguments. I'll be making a point about something obscure to discuss with someone, to be hailed down by "STOP ARGUING".

People are fatalists :(. Resorting to fighting and extremities.
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Fatalist means to believe the world is already predestined so it simply doesn't matter what you do, just to correct you =oP.

And yeah, people find it hard to separate their own feeling with rational debate. They can't simply discuss something from a rational stand point, they have to be involved in the point of discussion, they have to be emotive about it when the simplest route would be to hold a rational, cognitive discussion.
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It is a relatively new word to me, I saw it somewhere and didn't look it up thinking I could assume the meaning, obviously I was wrong! :(.

Maybe I'll actually learn something during A-Level English that will assist me in refraining from butchering this language, as I so often do.
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Language or Lit? You don't really learn good writing technique in language, the only reasonably useful word you learn is lexis / lexicon.
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English Lit of course! I read a comparison of 1984 and Clockwork Orange by a sixth former, and they are my 2 favourite books! It was a no brainer really.

Subjects
Further Maths (:D hardest a-level eh?)
Physics (complement maths, plus its interesting)
English Lit
???

Don't know what to take as a fourth. Probably something easy like Business or Philosophy. Any suggestions?
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You're doing further maths but not core maths? Seems a bit odd.

It might be the hardest a-level, I dunno. What I do know though is that if you go on to do a maths centric degree, you'll be re-learning most of the further maths stuff anyway.

Philosophy is only easy if you can write well and don't mind reading a lot of stuff, basically if you put the work in it's easy. Business study is easy just by virture of the fact that peons manage to get B's and C's, although they'll vehemently deny the fact that's it easy, even though they're failing all their other subjects. I would deifinately recommend core maths, with mechanics as the option if you have it - Physics and mechanics are quite closely related so they reinforce each other. If you do do that though you'll most likely be locked into a physics / maths degree should you wish to go to uni, unless you decide on something random that doesn't need any specific a-level combinations.

If I was you I'd look at some degree courses and see what they want.
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Got any helpful links for checking out these degree courses?

And as far as I understand it's core maths with the further maths extra, except in one timeslot, so basically it's double the work, but Core + Further... I think. Not sure o.O I'll ask my Math teacher.

But yeah, would be nice to check out degree specifications... Still have no fsking clue what I want to do :(.
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Well you can either look through the prospectuses or browse online.

I'm biased obviously but look for good uni's that are semi-local. No one wants to be at the other end of the country unless it's for oxford or an art degree that there's a specialised uni for. Good uni's can be found by looking through university guides like those of the times. Basically, just look through the website of a good uni like durham or nottingham(cough), check out the courses there then have a look around at other uni's that offer similar courses.

Someone will probably say I should look at the department more when looking for a degree, but honeslty I don't think that matters. You get six choices and you usually get invited to open days for all of them, so you can do the department / accommodation checking then.

I doubt you're doing 2 a-levels in one lesson block, that'd be quite silly. If you're doing further as an option like I did with mechanics, then it won't be the full course. If you are doing the 2 in one lesson block then congrats, you're going to have a shit load of work =oP.
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It apparently is a shit load of work, I think I deserve it having blagged my way through the last 5 years of my life :D.

Got 6 exams in the coming week, and while the headmaster is lecturing us about how people "just say they are revising" to look cool, it dawned on me that I haven't actually done any...

I'm thinkin' I'll just do some night-before cramming, should do fine. Hell I did my English Lit exam last Tuesday and I'm pretty sure I hit a gorram A just by blagging. If my other exams are like this then I plan for an easy few weeks :D.

If all else fails, BLAG!
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GCSE's are like that. A-levels, whole different story. A lot of people get blindsided by the difference between the two. I know I did.
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Well, many thanks for this pleasant and enlightening exchange. Just going to read through another Firefly script and head off to sleep. Need to fix my sleeping pattern so I wake up for Monday's maths exam!

Tempted to get to CPC3 to meet with the neyerds?
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Haha yeah, depends on money situation though I guess. I'm fixing my sleep pattern too, but I opt for the stay awake all day approach ;oP!
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I did that yesterday, planned on going to bed earlier, but it didn't work, still up now :(. If I stay up all day today I'll probably sleep in on monday, so I figure I'll just sleep ~4 hours tonight, leave me tired enough tomorrow :).

Leeds -> Amsterdam ~ £30 return, money situation? puh!

G'night!
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Train to leeds £30! Accomodation! I should probably stop making excuses, but I do have to get myself a passport.
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I took Business Studies, yeah it's easy. But then I made the mistake of taking it as a degree because it seemed like the most logical choice to base a career on out my A-levels (english lit, business and law).

Biggest mistake of my life! The people are boring and the course is exceptionally boring.

Take A-levels and courses that you genuinely enjoy and interest you.
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Few hundred for lessons. Another hundreds for tests. A few grand for car + petrol. Half a grand - a grand for insurance. No thanks.

Also, I was cycling to exercise, it would kind of defeat the point if I just drove around...
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Although I agree with your original idea, I must admit that in this case you are the only idiot.
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I didn't realise riding a bike qualified me as an idiot.
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Nor did I said so. You did other things than merely riding a bike that made you an idiot in my eyes. But then again, who am I and why in God's name would you even care about my opinion.
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What other things did I do?
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You do know what you have written, do you? If so, no further explanation is necessairy as you know well enough what I'm talking about.
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You mean because I turned around and gave the guy the finger? I suppose you would have ridden on and done nothing?
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Well, after reading your little conversation with Sheep it seems I have misread your original post. So you were riding your bike and you come across some guy at the opposite side of the road, when you passed him you looked back and he was running after you for no reason. You drove harder and at some point you turned around, drove past him and gave him the finger?

Even though I misinterpretate a part of your post, I still think that is idiotic as you lower yourself to a level you normally (I suppose) aren't. Lowering yourself for whatever reasons to a level beneath you makes you idiotic in my eyes.

About the second situation, shouldn't a bike be riding on the road instead of on the pavement? :-p
Anyway, you could be a little bit more considerate yourself. You could've just rode aside them instead of almost into them even though you might feel they shouldn't be weavering over the pavement like that as they are obstructing the other users of it, but isn't that the reason why the bell on your bike was invented? Or you could just've slowed down and asked them to let you through. I speak from own experience that a friendly word really helps and that most people respond appreciately to a friendly and kind word.
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I was trying to get past them, but there wasn't any room on the pavement and they were walking side by side weaving in and out like there was some kind of obstacle course. It was a motorway and I was on the wrong side so riding on the road would have been quite an idiotic thing to do. I don't have a bell, and since there were cars zooming by I would have had to shout for them to hear me. Anyway, my point is that they should have been aware of me when they walked out of resturant, they should have been aware that other people exist, and acted accordingly.
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Well, that sheds another light on the situation ofcourse. I agree that those people are idiots and that the indifference they show is what's our problem.
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i love you sock
i love my socks
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People aren't life. I love life. I hate people.
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just wanted to post that pic :p
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c est la vie
I hate false emotions
It was kind of scary to read your journals and the comments made by you, because I'm just like that ^_^ !

I just try to ignore as many people as I can, because I simply can't stand them... I'm not an emo or something... I like to be with the people I know, because I can have a laugh with them, but as soon as someone sit's next to me in the bus I turn the volume of my mp3 player up that is playing some Bosnian folk music, and everytime I hope that they will say something about it so I can give them a punch in the face because they are so fucking... can't explain...

QuoteI'm not crazy, I'm just normal in another way
Mentally disturbed is what they call that. Provoking people to say something to you just so you can hurt them in a physical way is sick.
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Yes, I was being serious.
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I was kinda hoping that as no human with his brains still perfectly functioning would listen to folk music on a bus.
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Well I do. Since I don't really give a fuck what people say or think about me, and yes you can say that by saying this I do care what people think about me, but I really don't.
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Oh my God, you listen to folk music. And to make things even worse I bet you weren't joking about punching people in their face either.
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Exchange punch in the face with a verbal insult which makes them think about their own self centred nature then you're probably right, he does want to punch people in the face. At least, that's often what I'd like to do. But you just can't, either because you want something from that person or because they might try and physically settle the situation - That's something you can't risk in this society.
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Or because you know that it's not right to just assault people just because they "might" annoy you.

You want a better world? Start with yourself.
You want a miracle to happen? Be the miracle.
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I already start with myself. If I'm walking down the street, I'm aware that someone else might be walking on a collision course, that a cyclist might want to be on the far side of the road, or that a mother might not want her toddle walking that close to the curb. I'm wearing of old people who may need doors opened for them, or motorists who migth appreciate me running over the zebra crossing, or delaying an entire bus load of people at a set of traffic lights. Other people are the oblivious ones, and this is why I hold them in such disregard: but I still do the things I do, simply because they are human beings.
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And are you only aware of what happens or do you act/intervene as well? You said in your examples "I'm aware that he wants... That she wants..." but do you actually help them getting to those goals?
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Of course. Why wouldn't I if I'm aware? The biggest problem is judging the correct distance cut off for holding a door open. If you misjudge it you end up looking like a twat. Grats if you figure out where that's from.
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Just tell me where it comes from, saves me a lot of thinking time.
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Where what comes from?
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QuoteGrats if you figure out where that's from.
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Seinfeld. Unless I'm confused.
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Never watched it.
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It's like friends but with only 3 characters. Rachel, Pheobe and monica are one character, chandler another, and joey and ross are on single character. It's a great show.
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I doubt a person is able to have so many facets, but okey I might watch it if I find the time and it doesn't have too many episodes (datalimit here in Belgium).
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Well it's a bit more comlex than that, and obviously it's a generalisation. It was the first show about nothing, friends kind of copied the format.

George is like joey in the sense that he's a bit dumb, but he's much more like ross in the sense that he's completely inept at dealing with women, but obsessed with them at the same time. Jerry is like chandler in the sense that he's the funny one, but he's also like ross in the same sense as george. Elaine is kind of like early friends rachel and monika combined, there's not much pheobe but when it sometimes creeps through. Like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xi4O1yi6b0 for instance.

The bald dude at the end is george.
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Haha, actually it's pretty funny. But you might remove the "," at the end of the url so the next person who wants to see it doesn't have to typ the whole url =]

So euhm, lots of seasons and episodes like Friends or not?
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http://tv-links.co.uk/show.do/1/78

9 seasons of 22 episodes each, so yeah I guess =oP. They're not all on that link but there's enough to give a few weekends of fun. Also, because it's friends format, it doesn't really matter what order you watch them in, there aren't many times where plot lines continue between episodes.
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Ok, thanks.

Btw, you are pretty much different than I thought you would be.
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Different how?
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When I think of you, it will be with a positive touch after tonight. Before tonight I thought you were like Sol, I'm glad you aren't.
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I'm a nice guy once you get past the internet debates!
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No human being with his brain in order would voluntarily ride the bus. It is the epitome of everything that's wrong with humanity: not in the sense that it exists, but in so far as the people who ride it are all shades of crazy and annoying.

The simple fact is, people just don't care about other people. They don't care about you. They don't care about the person next to your. So far as they don't know you they are completely oblivious and apathetic to your existence. This is why I hate people.
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You take the bus to go from one point to another point in a semi-fast and certainly cheap way, not to have a "good time". Although there are a lot of people who enjoy taking the bus, or atleast don't seem to hate it as much as you do.

I know people only care about other people when it benefits them (some exceptions here and there ofcourse), but why would they have to care about you? Unless you're bleeding to death on the street after an accident why for the love of God should anyone care about you or what is happening to you? You can't just go hate people because you don't feel acknowledged by everyone in your surroundings. Do you care about everyone you meet in your life? Do you interest yourself in everyone you see on the street? I doubt it. Why not? You ask them to do the same thing or am I mistaken?
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Care is the wrong word. Acknowledge their existence is more apt, but still not a fully accurate description. And yes, people should acknowledge me, they should acknowledge any and everyone. Why? Because we're human beings, because if we ever want a better world this is the only way to make it happen. We need to be aware that other people exist, that they have wants and desires, etc. Because people are selfish, because they refuse to even comprehend anyone beyond their family and friends, unless of course they want something, we live in the world we do. It is because we live in the world we do that the only possible conclusion is this: People are shit.
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The word you are looking for is "Utopia". And that people don't care about everyone these days is not because today's world made us so or that people in general are shit. The thing you want, seek, will never happen because that's a "flaw" in us I think. I don't have enough knowledge to be a bit more exact, correct, etc but I believe it's because we are equipped with a lot of emotions. And as with everything, you have good and bad emotions that walk hand in hand.
But as I said I'm not good enough in english to express myself more precisely.
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It's not a flaw and it's nothing to do with emotions. It's simply about being aware. When you're driving a car, you're away of the road and other cars, in the same way, when you're walking, talking, buying, selling, doing anything that involved other people, you should be completely aware of things that are going on around you. You should be aware that there's a pram coming towards you, you should be aware that you're walking on a cycle path, you should be aware that you're about to walk into someone. You should be aware that what you're saying is vague, or stupid, or foul. This is a simple thing to do, all it involves is using your senses. It would make a utopia, it would simply make for a nicer world.
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I think pretty much everyone is aware of what's happening, they just don't care. And that does have to do with emotions because people mostly care when it's benefitting them in some way.
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That's even worse. I prefer to believe there's atleast some humanity in people, that they just aren't aware of their own stupidity.
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Now you're overreacting again imo. It's not because you mostly do things when it benefits you, you can't be "human". If you help someone because it would make yourself feel better that that other person is happy, would he/she still be a selfish and egocentric person in your eyes?

People do and don't do things for various kinds of reasons and you can never ever fully comprehend why someone did something or didn't do something.

And yeah, the majority of the people is stupid but that's an whole other topic imo.
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There's nothing wrong with doing things because it makes you feel better. I enjoy helping other people, but I'd do it anyway even if I didn't. Why? Because they are human beings, and they deserve my acknowledgment at the very least.
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And that's what makes you a better person than the majority.
But realise that when you're on the street or on the bus or in a restaurant or wherever you want and you see something happening about what we are talking about now, you are just seeing a fraction of a persons life. It's not because at that moment he doesn't acknowledge you he's shit. Maybe he's preoccupied with other things and even though you deserve acknowledgement from other people bear in mind that he/she might have some troubles which don't give him/she the chance to acknowledge you. But that doesn't mean he/she wouldn't acknowledge you another time you come across eachother.
It's an instinct to first look at yourself, and then at others.
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You're right that people will always think of themselves first, but that doesn't stop you from also thinking of other people. You can get everything you want in life without being oblivious to the rest of the world, in fact, in some ways it might be true to argue that you can get what you want faster if you take in to account other people.

I am thinking of myself most of the time, this isn't high altruism that I'm proposing. When I hold the door open for someone I'm doing it not because I'm some amazing person who puts others before himself, it's because I see it as my duty as a human being to acknowledge that other people sometimes need my help. I also feel good whilst doing it, most of the time, which is how most normal people should feel as well: in a way I am acting out of my own self interest, albeit in a roundabout way; the feeling good part comes after the feeling I have to do it because the other person is a human being part.

It's not an inalienable right for someone to have the door held open for them, but it is a right that a person should be acknowledged.
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i feel like ur making some false conclusions about stuff that isnt related
anyway usually people in small towns atleast in finland are overly nice to everyone starting casual conversations with total strangers and things like that
i find that a bit annoying
in big cities its complete opposite its still the same people just different style
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I hate people who start random conversations too. They're not aware either, they're not aware of my want for privacy, they're too wrapped up in their own need to talk.

In the cities it is opposite yes, but it's in no way better or worse, the people are still ignorant.
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hmm seems like i kinda missed what u were after :>
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All has now been broken
On streets I dare not walk
Freedom is an illusion
I build my fences high
If there was something out there
I've learned not to expect
There's a hundred million reasons
Not to care

Don't bring it
Don't bring it
Don't bring your misery down on me

Don't bring it
Don't bring it
Don't bring your misery down on me
Wear misery's crown
I had a similar feeling this morning. Walked out my house to the shop, outside my house was a huge pile of puke, across the road was an obvious drunk getting into the drivers seat of a car and a bit closer to the shop was a notice from the police asking for witnesses of an assault that'd happened nearby.

And I live near Bristol Rovers stadium, therefore everytime theres a big game the riot police are on our street and theres a crowd of dicks throwing empty beer glasses at them, why?

Had the same bike experience too. Riding uphill a couple of months ago, some guys came behind me and start shouting 'I'M GONNA STEAL YOUR BIKE' and chased me. Nice one.

Oh, and some cunts ran me over before because looking left was too much hassle.

The ignorance of some people is un-fucking-believable.
idiots like that are rare but so easy to notice
this journal was about avarage joes way of behaving towards others
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I think what he's describing is just the end result of the average joes attitude towards others. People, most of the time, just accept that other people are idiots and they're going to annoy them. I just refuse to accept that. People can and should be aware of other people.
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strange, i find majority being aware of others
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I find it's only so when they want something that they don't think they deserve.
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I don't agree, when I see someone doing an out of their way kind gesture to another person or myself I notice it and am surprised.

And if you do a nice gesture to another person you don't know the reaction is generally thanks mixed with shock.

Perhaps that's just my experience though.
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maybe my overall observation is not that good, but like for example ur asking for directions in streets people are easily willing to help u
or u drop a bag of oranges in store at the line and the guy next to u will help u to pick em up
things like that have happend to me often so i would draw a conclusion that most people are aware of others and willing to help without gaining anything
then again once when i helped an old lady in stairs by carrying his heavy bag to third floor she was asking why did i help her and wanted to give money, so uhm go figure
maybe its a bit like the world is like u want to see it
almost all the idiotic stuff i've gotten to experiment has been done by kids
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They will all die anyway.
welcome 2 ze WORLD ( 2007 )
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