iban mayo @ doping (dutch)

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better say whos clean
This is the full list of clean riders:







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the tour is still exciting!
To bad the best rider didn't win.
and who is the best rider in your opinion?
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Since I am from Denmark, you can take a guess :)
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rasmussen?
He missed some drug tests + he lied about his location. I suspect he was using dope too, though there is no proof of it because he skipped al those tests...
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Pretty sure everyone uses it =)
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it's not our fault, our body makes it himself!
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Though that's true I didn't mean it that way.. ;o
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The restaurant must have done something in my food
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He didn't miss some drug tests. Somehow the letter to UCI, informing them about his whereabouts in Mexico came to late and therefor he recieved a warning for that.

He was tested 2 weeks before the tour started also by the Danish doping agency. He was tested 14 times in the Tour... all negative.

So either he has found teh wunder-drug that is untraceable, or he has just practised his guts out for the Tour and thereby being the best rider.
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I thought I read something about him missing the tests or it is just my memory abandoning me again. Lemme see if I can find it again =)
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Rofl, missinformed by danish media?
He said the letter got lost in the post, wich said he was in mexico at that time, but hey, cassani saw him in the italian mountains right when he "was in mexico with his wife". So that is first wrong.
Second wrong, using blood doping in the right way( not like vinokourov using other peoples blood) is at this moment untraceble, so not really a wonderdrug my friend. Get your information right next time.
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No I am not missinformed by the Danish media. There was an exclusive interview with Rasmussen this sunday (lasted about 30 minutes) on the telly, where he told everything about this case. Well except some things he couldn't talk about because of the legal actions he is going to take towards Rabobank I think.

Yeah he said it got lost in the post.

About Cassani. I really don't trust him, he claimed that it was heavily raining when he met and talked with Rasmussen... the thing is though, that it hadn't rained in the Dolomites in that periode.
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Well, if Rasmussen said so then it must be true.
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i lol'd irl :D
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come on, u should know that blood doping can not be tested. u have to catch him by doin it or catch his doctors with obviuos material...
its pretty sure he did, cause he had to hide sth dunno what but he needed to do it...no proof atm means blood doping imo
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i believe Vinokourov got caught with blood dope, so it's trackable
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There are different kinds of blood dope, Vinokourov picked the easiest, the cheapest and the most easy trackable of them.
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just try to axplain how u wanna detect ur own blood in ur own venes
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Rasmussen got asked about the case, after the team leader of Rabobank heard about the rumours that he was seen in Italy in this time. And he admitted that he lied all the time. That's why he got kicked out. In addition, he said in the press conference that he called the UCI in this time and described the problem to a woman. According to him she responsered that it isn't a problem, that she note it and that he doesn't need to care. The funny point is, the name of the woman he gave out. Because she didn't even work for the UCI in this time. She changed her job long time after the time period, when he was missing.

Lets talk about Doping. Viax explained not the truth. You can take a lot of Pharmaceuticals, which take an effect even weeks later and which can't get find anymore. Excactly in this time period, when you should use it he couldn't get tested. In addition, there is still a big amount of Doping, which you cannot bust such as doping with your own blood.

Something to add:

- bloodbag story
- They recorded some statistics and stuff. He rode with more watt/h and in less times all mountains compared to armstrong, virenque, ullrich etc. Only Pantani made it faster on one single mountain.
- He always sucked like shit in time trial. Suddenly sensationel he is under the top 10.

He has only 2 good days in the year. Last year he rided out 70 riders out of the tour on 1 track. And he drove in the groupetto @ giro. His developement about the years is so untypical and usually only with doping explainable. Be so naive as you want. But he is the clearest Doper around.
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private coded doping by mbudget? :P
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Mbudget cannot code. :D
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Nice theory, could be true, but it isnt proven yet. about the time trial. Rasmussen was never good at it, but there was a climb in the time trial, it was raining, and he was wearing the yellow shizzle. A climb is in his advantage, since he is the best climber in the tour, the fact that it was raining makes it difficult for everybody, not just for Rasmussen, and being #1 gives you wings, and makes you able to go just a little deeper and further and faster.

Anywayz i believe he is clean, untill proven otherwise...
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it was 3rd cathegory climb, there are people who go much faster on it than rasmussen.
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plz |-) if it was flat rasmussen would have had more disadvantage, a climb is in his advantage. (read: THIS DOESNT MEAN HE IS THE BEST AND FASTEST CLIMBER....)
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If you look at the times he made in the timetrial, he was one of the fastest guys at the last part (READ: THE FLAT PART) so imo you have no point. He used to be 6minutes behind all the rest in other time trials (also with climbs), my final statement is= he took doping, and i am waiting for this to get proven.
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What if i say that Cassani was in Japan that day with his wife, and the sun was shining. Does that make Rasmussen "innocent"? Because 1 guy says something, Rasmussen gets fired and shit ;x
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read mens0s stuff again, and understand that he was lying all along. Obvious doping, just like contador imo...
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read again? it hasnt been proven yet, and he is innocent untill proven guilty...
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He is unguilty until proven otherwise, but he will have to come up with some nice reasons why he gave the name of the female who didnt work at uci yet and the vacation in mexico...
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yes he will have to come up with answers, but those questions dont proof his use of doping...
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They dont, but in my opinion, since they found out about this lies, he has to come up with proofs why he did this first, the doping agency shouldnt come up with proofs that he used doping imo
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if he used it a short while ago they would still be able to find it. if he used it before and the effects were already gone it wouldn't have helped him that much :/
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he was "best doped" maybe... not the best rider...
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Read my reply above.
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well cycling is fucked up anyways :(

used to watch cycling too some years ago, but after Ulrich was b00sted etc, i didn't watch it anymore :/
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Well, he isn't the best. He _had_ a great team behind him
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lol in square for this one
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Dolf Linggram was the best
Well... I've been a fan for 12 years, so yeah I probably do.
Yeah, Finally

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LOL and he still sucked :D
The only clean rider in the tour is TOMMEKE
there wil come a cycler with robot legs
everyone can care about he wants..
i think the last rider should have won the tournament!
they should ban the spanish teams...corrupt shit
ban the hacker !

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omg another 1
lol..rasmussen is the biggest fag with the lowest excueses ive ever heard....hes the _real_ chicken!

i know they have big pressure from team, sponsor, nation...but to dope, what rasmussen _obviously_ did, is the weakest way a sportsman can go. the riders are just one little thing of a big machinery..but they also know that they will be the bad target of the media and society, if they get caught, not the corruptness behind.

team gerolsteiner ftw!! xD
Team what?
Oh sorry, were they even in the Tour?
I didn't see them !! :o
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At least the cleanest Team in the Tour. :D
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well im not a fan, since this is a german team, but ive heard and seen a lot about their willings to have a clean team..and if the team wants to be clean, their cyclers are too
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everyone "wants" to be clean, if we would believe their words. For now i'm not thrusting anyone in the whole Tour. Not untill we get another major bust, or someone decided to come out with the whole story.
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tour de france equals ET :D

- hax / doping
- lowskilled excuses
- what else :P
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since i heard team telekom hired a doctor who was already involved in doping cases 5 years ago, i doubt that anyone is giving a shit if the team seems to be clean!

Tour de Farce close to death hopefully
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one of the latest things about blood stuff in the cycling world i heared is about a plan to make blood passport's. So it's noticable if you got a certain amount more of something. I don't know the whole thing, but i believe this was a plan made by the ASU(?) for their new cycling league.
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train in the mountains, take 3 liters of ur blood after 3 weeks.
if u got a championship fill back ur blood taken in the monutains...
no sherlock on this world will ever find anythin in ur body (beside ur own blood)
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Iban Mayo? :<<<

My heart breaks. I was one of his biggest fans, and now this. Devastating !

I'm sorry, I'm off to cry a bit :<
I can be cruel yes.
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this kind of (blood)doping helps a lot of sportsman in most kind of sports.. i doupt cycling is the sport in front of doping.. its just because tour de france is such a big advert- and media spectacle, that ppl investigate everything to find a scandal. nevertheless its good that its caught in any way and in any sport. it needs a revolution urgently, not only because of the big money involved, also for the ppl, who suffer and cheer with sportsmen who, in the end, are doped (?)!!
Main reason why cycling has so many doping scandals is because it's a sport based on strength.
The tactical decisions are more made by the team leader than the person on the bike.
Not like football or something, that's more a tactical sport.
(Oke, it's a bit strength to but you know what I mean.)
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sure, and its an individual sport.. but whatever:

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