Ubuntu?

i was wondering why ppl would like to use linux's ubuntu instead of windows xp?

what are the advantages and for who is it meant? With "for who is it meant" i mean that i always concidered xp as an os that is best for a normal user, that mac osx is destined to be used by graphical designers and afaik linux is meant to be used by programmers...is this true?

If you are a linux user, why did u went from windows to linux and visa versa, if u are a windows user...why don't you concider using ubuntu?


The reason why i'm asking is because i'm getting a crapy laptop from my brother because he is getting a new one and i am thinking of putting linux's ubuntu on it or maybe both ubuntu and windows xp...

thx in advance! :)
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Windows has more support for applications and games


Most ppl use Windows , never had linux , but i heard Linux is more stable than Windows (thats why most ET servers are Linux i think)
Bullshit


Linux = better server support and stuff

because windows machine's get infected easy with viruses


Windows XP is really great atm more stable then ubuntu
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Why does it smells because you're to cheap ?
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:< it was like bullshit smellz u get it?
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are there less viruses that can infect linux machines?
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there's close to none.
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The reason is simple



more then 80% of the users use WINXP and are noobs


linux users are Tweakers / geeks / hobbyists mostly
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so the good thing about linux is that it's free of viruses but u have to know alot about programming before using it?
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Well, you dont need to know programming



www.ubuntu.com and read the forums


its really simple



and i also dont know shit about programming so np
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oke thx, btw do use use only linux or both? with that dualboot thing?
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Well, Dualboot
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I'd suggest Dualboot, it's just easier if you need something that's not (yet) available for Linux ;-)
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bullshit, it's just way harder to infect a linux kernel than it is to infect the windows one
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That's such bullshit.

Windows XP might be more stable than some unstable distros, or if you use the unstable tree, but linux, and even ubuntu as a whole, is a LOT more stable than windows could ever dream to be.

Run a linux box for a month and a windows xp box for a month, then compare the stats, open a game and check the FPS.

Not to mention linux is far easier to use than windows, but w/e.

GFG.
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Rofl , i have used linux for an year

my fucking Xorg crashed all the time after an game

maybe it's because of mine ATi card i dont know but still i like windows more atm


Windows XP SP2 = stable got the same installation for about an year now my fps still didnt drop

anyways linux is easier to use if all the drivers exist

and now stop bashing me


<3 MICROSOFT

dont kill me pls
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Number of times Windows Vista has crashed for me the past year: 0
Number of times Mac OS X has crashed for me the past year: 0
Number of times Gentoo Linux has crashed for me the past year: 0
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but you're pro necuz :D
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It's not me, it's Intel and nVidia that are.
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"Windows XP is really great atm more stable then ubuntu"
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Oh and you actually inversed the order of the words Windows XP and ubuntu in your sentence :)
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:P stop bashing me because i liek windows :<< OMG DOTN HURT ME
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Well in a way I like windows too, since i'm using Windows XP SP2 90% of the time, but I still know that I never had some non sens crashes like "Explorer.exe encountred an error and must close" in Ubuntu.
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SP2 fixed lots of things




KDE/GNOME/FLUXBOX > EXPLORER.EXE
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you can use fluxbox on windows

the port is called blackbox, and there is multiple versions of it, i'm using "bbClean"

It replaces the shell, so no more explorer needed! Plus it owns!
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rofl nais wait i'll google it
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Linux = Stable
Linux = Not Rebooting after installing something
Linux = Compiz-Fusion (3D Cube stuff)
Linux = No Virusses (Because of sudo/su, only VERY dumb users will get virusses on Ubuntu)
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I meant that there are more Games for Windows and that most beta's are for windows

Also first releases are mostly for windows


No viruses is part of stability :)

MS is working hard for security updates

SP3 coming up for XP :)




Linux is best for servers imo
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I suggest you ask ng_ or someone who is incredibly good with and used to Linux.
The thing with linux is the great deal of control you have over it.

One simple example. There are two very popular window managers (by choosing ubuntu you automatically choose gnome, but there's kubuntu with kde as well), and you can use whichever you like best. You decide.

You can also decide which distribution to choose (which one suits you best?) and even whether to install your programs from sources or from precompiled binaries.

To move on, someone with better computer skills, has great benefit from the very things that scare away newbies: configuration files and the command line. Linux basically revolves around scripts, and scripts are extremely powerful. Everything is configurable, and there might also be more than one way of doing it. In addition to that, the command line allows you to do what you want (if you know how) a lot faster than click-ing your way around.

Let's now consider another approach. Governments and agencies started making their switch to linux and open formats. Considering MS Office vs Open Office. If someone keeps all it's documents in a closed format (like .doc from MS Word), it means it puts a great deal of trust into the owner of the format. If Microsoft decides not to support the old format anymore, all your documents are doomed (ofc, in this case you will have the chance of converting them). If however you use an open format, with all the specifications made public, there will always be support for it somewhere on the internet (maybe even older versions: you can find Apache 1.0 out there, but can you find Microsoft Office 6.0? )

Update 1:
And most the software you'll ever need is compiled into one big list with nice descriptions, and you can download and install it with less than 3 clicks.
fluxbox > kde/gnome <3
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Actually i'm willing to try Gentoo i heard it's pretty hard is it true?
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How hard it is depends on your ability to understand written English. No other distro is as well documented.
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it's like abracadabra or something for me i need to improve my english
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Well... your German, English, French, Italian, Polish or Spanish. But honestly, since they no longer support stage 1/2 installs it should be a piece of cake.

Edit: It's been an age, this might actually work nowadays: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/installer/
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Fluxbox lacks a lot of basic functionality.
KDE is cluttered to hell.
Gnome is made for noobs.

The main problem with Linux as a desktop OS outlined. You have the power those choose which crappy program you want to use. Plus, don't even get me started on all the cheap carbon copy programs like OO.o and GIMP. :x

Disclaimer: This comment was written by a MS/Apple-fanboy.
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I use OpenOffice on windows! And Inkscape too.
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Let me put it this way. Can any OpenOffice program do something that it's MS Office counterpart can't?
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That's like saying "can notepad do anything pico can't do?"

Doesn't matter, it's a matter of preference.
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Yes it can, and Pico can also do things that Notepad can't. What's the point? They're not even trying to compete.

OO.o is a bad carbon copy of an older version of Office, bad because it doesn't do anything better than Office.
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I'll be frank, theres no point in me arguing, because I simply never use it.

If I want to do some schoolwork I'll open InDesign or Notepad2 over MS Word or OO Word.

The only program I have used is OO Spreadsheet, because sometimes it's needed, sometimes it's useful.


ps: Linux? Can't exactly call it a good Office suite if it's only supported on one platform well, and another platform gets a shitty port. (Have you ever used MS Office on mac?)
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I haven't really used Office 2004 too much, as I usually run Vista on my Macbook. Though, that will probably change once Office 2008 gets released. There's still the Visual Studio dependence, though...
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XFCE > fluxbox > gnome > kde <3
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did you try beryl ? omg it's so sweeet <3
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Never got it working with fluxbox, only gnome heh.

But it was very fun to play around with.
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Initially I heard of Ubuntu from a programmer who lavished praise on it, and so when I ran into technical difficulties with my copy of Windows XP, I decided to give it a try. I have stuck with it ever since, and I have been very impressed by the improvements that have been made to the operating system since I started using it.

I mostly use Ubuntu for office applications and such (had ET installed on it at one time but experienced difficulties with the keyboard functionality, unfortunately). I like to use Ubuntu for a variety of reasons: it features easy package management that allows you to download and install a lot of free programs painlessly, all the drivers for my hardware are installed at the same time as the operating system (I think I'm fortunate not to have experienced any problems in this regard), and it comes with a wide range of useful programs pre-installed (e.g. Firefox, OpenOffice, GIMP (graphics application), Evolution (for e-mails), Rhythmbox (for managing music, podcasts and such)).

Speaking as someone relatively new to Linux, I consider Ubuntu a pretty good alternative to XP if you aren't very dependent on software designed exclusively for XP/Mac (though it is possible to achieve support for such applications through an API called "Wine", but not always with perfect compatibility).

If you are lucky, you are quickly up and running after you've installed Ubuntu, and if not, support is widely available on the web since it is such a popular distribution, so a transition from XP to Ubuntu should be relatively painless.

I currently have Ubuntu 7.04 installed on both my desktop (dual boot) and my laptop, and I am very satisfied with how it runs (although I have experienced some difficulty with the touch pad functionality on my laptop (it worked fine, but I found it hard to configure to my liking)).
ubuntu rulz.
levz sucks cocks.
Because its free :o
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