Firewall?!

Tell me a good one! I have been using the same since 2 years (sygate pro).


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yes u should get a new!
old, but still owns.. Easy to use n stuff. <3 sygate
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why do you need to change then?
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its getting older. And i wanna test a new one.
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Software Firewalls are completly useless. Use a router, or u don`t need one.
i have a router :\ but its strange.. i think that perfect is use firewall from router and one firewall software
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The software is completly useless. Are u also brushing ur teeths twice, with 2 different toothbrushers? ^^
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bei dir würds auch helfen wenn du sie nur einmal putzt
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Not really, a Windows firewall can selectively permit outgoing connections, something very impractical to do on a dedicated firewall. Although with a good antivirus and nice "downloading" skills you might not need this.
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rule #1: only run software u trust.
ppl not doin this deserve what they get
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iptables useless? :o although with win, not talkin bout their own packetfilter, completely agreed.
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If someone wanna hack you, he`ll just use the programs/processes, which u have allowed in ur firewall. Talking about Windows.
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exactly thats my point in theory, if u open ports be sure they're intended for public use n some propperly configured services are runnin there. but still there might be some services u want to open to restricted ips n not to the whole world (eg nfs between some servers with public ips) or u want to protect some clients in ur network (but also with public ip adresses) - still iptables is software (although in kernel-space) and imo therefore not completely useless. also some services that shut down ur ssh-login after a number of failed login-attempts might rely on iptables. plus, when setting up windows servers (yeye, i know, but atleast i get payed for it, anybody can be bought ^^) even when configuring all services/useraccounts propperly i still dont feel pretty comfortable when i think those magic ms-ports (137-139, 443 etc) are still open n godwhoknowswhichdamn windows-service is still listening there, even if it denies all requests. (where the windows packet filter aka windows "firewall" gains my support)
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Now I got ur point. ^^
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damn, you are a nerd.
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i think im gonna take this as a compliment this time =) but im old now n god knows there were other times :>
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fukn true . . . blame the damn well known ports
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well, the prob here is also that ms has the clever strategy for binding several services to the same ports. u wanna block one service for public but rely on the other, still need all services runnin for local use, nice situation ...
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iptables on a dedicated computer is the same thing as a "hardware" firewall.
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actually. there is nothin like a "hardware firewall". even ciscos are only some computers (admittedly with special hw) runnin ios (ye, i know not all ciscos do, but that goes 2 deep now).
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That's why I put it in quotes. :)

People usually call it a "hardware" firewall/router if it's a separate box that doesn't look like a computer (even if it's running embedded Linux/iptables), or "software" firewall if it's software running in Windows.

Running Netfilter/iptables on a computer is what I'd call a "geek" firewall. ;)
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too much stress today to realize the quotes, soz ;) well, convinced my chef yesterday do base the routers for the new installations we do on linux, rlly glad i dont have to fiddle with ios for that :> plus, when it comes to extensibility (snort etc) nothin beats a linux setup here imo.
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"convinced my chef yesterday"

Installing routers in the kitchen? ;)
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no, that "chef" will arrive thursday tbh ;) omg, gotta clean, bbl ...
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this one
firewalls are useless if u have firefox and brains.
replace firewall with antivirus and i agree
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well i dont think anyone of us is in the position to get hacked, so what use has a firewall?
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blocking useless ports of programs
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you can also do that via router, you dont need a softwarefirewall for it
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some people dont use an router becoz they are in a Big lan like me :P called university
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A router is good at blocking specific ports, but can't [easily] prevent a specific program from "calling home" if it uses e.g. port 80.
(Software firewalls doesn't really add much security against malware though.)
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(Software firewalls doesn't really add much security against malware though.)
That was my point !
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replace firefox with opera and i agree
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iptables
eicher = freak but <3 ;-)
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ZoneAlaram, for the win :)
dont need it.
Kerio or Zone Alarm
Kaspersky Internet Security
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