quickQuiz #4 (solution)

For those who were interested yesterday about the solution to this cute little problem: http://crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=42481

M*x/L = the mass of the chain that already is on the scale
The small mass dM (can treat that as a delta) that is currently just touching the scale, has fallen for a length x (free fall), thus the work done by gravity is dM * g * x
Equate that for it's kinetic energy to get the speed:
dM * v^2 / 2 = dM * g * x
v^2 = 2 * g * x
v = sqrt (2 * g * x)

The duration dt (delta t) the small mass dM takes until it is at rest:
dt = dx / v = (dM * L / M ) / v = dM * L / (M * v)
Thus the force acting on the scale due to the falling dM:
F = dp / dt (impulse transfer over time period)
F = dM * v / dt = dM *v / (dM * L / (M*v)) = M v^2 / L = 2 M g x / L

Adding this force to the gravitational force of the piece of chain already on the scale:
Ftotal = g M x / L + 2 M g x / L = 3Mgx/L
That is, 3 times more than if piece of length x of the chain was stationary on the chain. Cool, huh?
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9th grade, to be more precise ;)
Parent
that my friend... is not a question
on the contrary.. it's an answer ;)
Because of a hard math problem having to do with two trains of different speed and direction about to collide, Doug flunks a math test, and he receives a letter in the mail from school. Because it's from school, Doug automatically assumes that it's from his teacher, telling Mr. and Mrs. Funnie that he's doing bad in math. Doug wants to open the letter, but he is afraid of breaking into his parent's mail. So he tries everything to open the envelope without tearing it, but he just ends up making a mess of things. Meanwhile, Patti keeps trying to call Doug, but before she can give him her message, he is forced to hang up the phone. Doug's mom comes home and takes the mail into her bedroom and takes a nap. He sneaks into her room and takes the letter, but Mr. Funnie sees it and he has a feeling Doug is having trouble in school. Patti finally comes over and says the reason she was calling, was because Mrs. Wingo wanted her to tutor Doug in math.
You did copy paste, right? I don't imagine you writing that in two minutes :)
Parent
I wrote 2 days ago, and now I paste.
Parent
For me :o ?
Parent
math makes me woop woop
That makes me wonder what would you have done if this was a maths problem :)
Parent
You'll ask yourself: "what was the question?"
Unless you were already wondering about it, in this case, you'd go to sleep as a happier person :)
If none of the two fit.. then... i guess nothing would happen :(
lol, i wont be able to do tasks like this to the end of my days :D
:(
That means I'll have to find simpler ones :|
Where are you, rize? Your kombinatorik was nice :)
Parent
im just more humanist, but I like math tasks where u have to think logical, and u dont need to know high-level math rules
Parent
yes hmm k how usefull! =/
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