Religion

Prolly completely irrelevant to this website's theme, and nobody of you will prolly care, but it's a journal, check wikipedia for the definition, so if u don't like this, just click it away.

Here a little explanation of my vision on religion:

Noone can be sure of his beliefs being true, but you can at least hope. I myself am not religious, but for one simple reason, there is no way to prove it. Still I don't say it isn't true, I'm just not blindly accepting it. I do hope though that a religion like christianity is the truth, since in my opinion it can really help us all growing to better people and solving our social and society's problems.

My message to everyone is:
Don't just believe what you have been tought as a child, instead explore all possibilities. Try to understand in what we live, not to where we go in the afterlife. One can not do complicated maths without knowing how to count.

Try spreading this message throughout communities, and do something good against extremism and terrorism.



Yes, this is my initiative, didn't copy paste this from anywhere, but I'd like to see you all do, I think one can really help solving these kind of problems in the world by this kid of simple things.
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Everyone should have a right to believe what ever they want and they shouldn´t try to spread it around.

Imagine, what a wonderful world we would have...
That's what I'm saying, and that's why I'm taking this initiative :)
Parent
My faith is based on this phrase: "Jos veteen astuu, niin jalka kastuu"

It means about "If you step in to water, your feet will get wet"

Damn, it makes so much more sense/humor in finnish.
Parent
True, that's my faith too, but that doesn't take away the possibility of other religions being true, and that's what I'm trying to say. You need to be open for eachothers beliefs, instead of burning eachother to the ground for having a different vision on life.
Parent
....is awesome.
im an atheist. any others will not be tolerated.
a man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle.
adoring any kind of god is stupid but the most annoying are the christians beacuse they have to try to brainwash everyone instead of just stfu'ing and adoring their god
tapsumasteriiiii
Parent
Norse paganism ftw
Parent
if u would reaad the Bible u would do the same u just dont understand the whole think whats about
Parent
I've read it/heard it being read more than enough.
and it's nothing but a random book, written by random people, that has been later used for all kinds of brainwash/politics/propaganda. the ideas about love, forgiving, justice that's going to come at the end of the world/end of your life and stuff are the same in every major religion, nothing special in the bible.
and I know that it's said on the bible that christians have to make all people in everywhere from every race christians, and that's why they have to annoy the self-thinking people with the same fucking stories hundreds of times again and again. if the god is so amazing and bible so magically great book and all people made by god, why haven't every people then already wanted to read the bible, read it and turned to adore god?

what annoys me more than christianity/religionality in itself, is the way the society in for example Finland tries to brainwash people into christianity. Every year they tell the same things in religion, which you are forced to "study" even in upper secondary school, and it's in 99% of cases taught by some mad jesus-freak radicalists that see satan's evil destruction plans in everywhere and in everyone. several times every year I "have to", by school, go to churhc and listen the same things than in school and there they try the same brainwash again. why can't they in school just teach something useful instead and let the people who want to adore god adore and the people who don't want to not adore? I know the stories of bible, I've been told the same christian blablablabalbla for the most of my life - and I still don't believe in it or care about it. and they still try to brainwash instead of doing something useful. AND THAT'S GAY, AMEN
Parent
1.lol do u really think the school learns so much about the bible? u failed. i would say they learn nothing! There is to much to learn and to understand what the bible said. And i dont believe that if u read this book, u understood it :p
2.The people dont turn to God coz they dont want it, or they didnt hear ehough or didnt hear something from the bible what should convience them, and beliebe me there ar muc things what can convience. Many people know that if they would beliebe in Bible and Bible's God they should change their lives/activities and they dont want it, thats why they begin from the beginning look for facts to find the bible not correctly.
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Quote by 1And i dont believe that if u read this book, u understood it :p

the god wants all people to read the bible and adore him and created all people but made the bible inunderstandable for them? - makes sense

Quote by 2or they didnt hear ehough or didnt hear something from the bible what should convience them, and beliebe me there ar muc things what can convience.

tell me some chapters or whatever those are in english that I should read from the bible to become convinced, I'll read them when I really have nothign more useful (in fact, nothing less useless) to do, and see if I magically pop to adore the god.

Quote by 3Many people know that if they would beliebe in Bible and Bible's God they should change their lives/activities and they dont want it

or they just don't find the bible convincing enough or worth it to change their habits because of it, which brings us to quote 1
Parent
1. this book is understandable but there ar much things what u wouldnt understand so easy just believe me and if u say u understood it, u DIDNT, coz U wont find answers for some easy questions. This book is not just readable 1-2 times so that u can understand it, u have to study it very detailed to really understand it, what u didnt do!
2. do u even know any prophecies? there ar ehough. Some of them u can find in whole capitals/books, some just in textes, some in connection between books...
3.No, if they hear that there ar much prophecies they just dont wanna hear them. And believe me i told with some people already, and if they hear it and begin to believe its true, they just say stop, lets talk about tomething different or...
Parent
prophecies are the same as horoscopes, so not worth much for me
Parent
there is a much difference between horoskops and prophecies
Parent
true, horoscopes are in the newspaper and prophecies in the bible
Parent
im an atheist. any others will not be tolerated.
HAIL MYSELF \o>
why spend ur whole life adoring something u dont see and doesnt exist. If u think logic how can 1 man created everything and how is he self created. Relegions are all 1 big lie to make people donate 4 the church.

religions are doing nothing they only make war.
i couldnt agree more
Parent
dont care about other religions but u should at first know how the christian religion came up before u judge it (dont forget that some things in this religion what u see now ar not correct what they should be in really, thats why many people begin to jugde it)

and u know nothing about the history of church
Parent
ur right i dont know many about it but that was just my opinion and if u take the evolution theory+ a random religion what sounds the most logic to you?? a book full of crap or years of study and proof for the theory
Parent
i dont believe in evolution theorie, this theorie failed already in almost all things. U can find in internet more about it, u will see it sucks. DO u know the history of this theorie? its just funny how it arised and got into our school books and that almost everybody believe in this shit.
If u wanna know more about why this theorie is so bullshit, try to find in internet a seminar from one Christian named Kent Hovind. Its very interesting
Parent
the only thing thats bullshit is the bible with all of its crap how can u be so naive to believe a old book over the big bang or the evolution theory omfg ur parents got real into you woth that cristian crap
Parent
my parents have nothing to do with it, i wasnt born as christian!
And to call me naive is bullshit, like i said before read the bible before u jugde and make a decision. U CANT judge somebody or somoething before u know about it enough.
Like i see u dont know enough about evolution theorie too, so i thing it does no sense to speak about it with u

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Parent
why should i read a book which is full of bullshit ur religion is based on a man who created everything thats bullshit
u dont want to talk with me because some1 is attacking ur religion. always the same with cristians omg religion is so stupid only people with an iq of 40 believe in a god in the sky haha. Why do all scientist doesnt believe in god?? becuz they think logic
Parent
rofl ur stuppid sorry all the facts u called now ar stupid and wrong, like i said before no point talk with u about it coz u dont know anything about it. Its like to talk with 5-yearsoldchild about maths of 12 class. Thats why i dont wanna talk with u... But u didnt understand this too rofl
Parent
hahah u believe in lies GG smartass
Parent
:D facts facts and facts again, my child
Parent
u call ur religion facts??? it isnt even based on facts how can u proof something that doesntt exist?
Parent
no i meant all ur facts ar wrong
Parent
i didnt said (facts) i just said i believe more in the big bang and shit than in a retard in heaven hahahaha the tought makes me laugh already
Parent
I'm not saying I am religious, just to make that clear. But that doesn't take away the possibilities of religions being true.

Here, one small example:

According to the current atheistic theory, the universe started with the big-bang. It had to start with a big bang, because everything needs to have a beginning and an ending. But if that's true, then what was before the big bang?

This question still is unanswered by atheistic theories, while it thusfar has already been answered by several religious theories.

Now I don't say it's right what religious theories state, but so far they already do have a theory for it, and science doesn't.

Currently science is trying to explain the big bang by time-warping and spacing. They are now assuming time is a big loop, and that everything which happens now happens backwards again in the far future when time starts going back. This I find just as hard to take as religion. It sounds like complete bullshit, hough many scientists believe this to be the truth.

What I'm trying to say is, although it sounds so weird and unbelievable to us, there is still a possibility of it being true and actually having logics beyond our imagination. So don't just say religion is a hoax, instead explore the possibilities ;)
Parent
I can come up with a theory too.
AT THE REALLY START THERE WAS JUST A BIG PINK DILDO.
THEN CAME THE BIG BANG and after that just follow the atheistic theory
now I have answered the same question than the church!!!!!1111

it's just that when the scientists will find an answer, it will be believeable, logical and based on scientical facts, unlike the church's or my answer, which are the same than nothing
Parent
Mb read my text again, what I wrote is science's theory.

Religion's theory is that god made everything.
Parent
and I used an example about the big pink dildo just to show that it makes as much sense as the god-thing
so I rather trust the scientists who actually have done a lot of research and can provide many proven facts, unlike the christians
Parent
Ah, ok, in that way ^^

Well, you'll have to take in mind that there are many different types of scientists. Fact is, what you believe is not what every scientist states. There are many different visions on the unknown aspects of life, and not one single theory thusfar is waterproof.

Maybe try reading some books about the connection between quantumphysics and religion / time / space. I already did, and I'll have to tell you, I'm not conviced yet, but it learned me alot.
Parent
to accept religion blindly is not correct, do u really think christians believe in God and Bible just so blindy? If u really study the Bible u wil l see the correctness of it more as u ever thought
I've been a christian all my life, until I've actually started reading the books. That's when I realised it's not really logical compared to the non-religic theories.

Soon though, I'm going to a reading about quantumphysics and their connection to christianity. I don't know what to think of it, but hey, I can at least try and understand why they have that perspective.

Why do you actually have your view like that on christianity. Can you please shortly resume what you think that is so convincing about christianity that you accept it.
Parent
nothing more then respect for u that u found out urself that religions are nonsense. Its difficult to realise that when ur raised with a religion. gj mate
Parent
have u ever tried to bring the physical facts to christian religion?
i mean have u ever thought that every nature laws/principles ar made by God and that u cant find answers on all ur questions?

U said u have been christian all ur life. What kind of christian did u were?

About convincing: for example what about so much profecies?
Parent
i mean have u ever thought that every nature laws/principles ar made by God and that u cant find answers on all ur questions?


omfg ur talking like he really exist whats up with ur brain

think logic GOD DOESNT EXIST
Parent
u didnt understand my topic.
i tryed to say that many things what seem to be against God, ar not against and can be viewed together
Parent
yes but they are all assumptions, religion doesn't use maths to state the statistics of the laws of nature, something which science does. Therefore science is more logical.

My answer on your question "What kind of christian were you?" is:
I was a christian who did not just accept everything blindly which was written in the Bible. I actually thought about every single detail, and compared them to other religions and streams, instead of just accepting them.

What I see you doing is saying "god did this, god did that". I think that's a wrong way to interpretate the things around you. In order to get yourself a clean and clear vision on life and everything around you, you'll have to doubt anything that is said to you, and investigate it.
Parent
rofl u understood me wrong, i dont believe in God and bible just naive. I didnt beliebe in it 20 years long and before i began to believe in it i checked all the facts and was studying this before i understood that the bible says true. Btw its stupid if atheist thing christians believe blindly. And if u didnt accept everything blindly in the bible, is OK, thats normal and everyone christ DO do it too. And what do u think christians accept blindly?
I dont say, god did this or this, i just say many people think that God and nature ar different things. Thats not if u see it on another way, this is what i wanted to say.
Parent
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You're seriously retarded.
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