21" CRT

by sAs1 • 11 Mar 2008, 11:45 • Journals
I saw someone here in iceland trying to sell a 21 inch crt, i was wondering..since i use r_mode 4 (800x600), and in the advert it says:

280x1024/98Hz · 1600x1200/85Hz · 1600x1280/75Hz
640x480/160 Hz · 800x600/160 Hz


does this mean i would run the monitor @ 160hz ? and those of you who know much about this stuff..some advices please :D!


Thanks in advance, sAsisimo
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darnok 11 Mar 2008, 11:48
i have no idea but im 1st!
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sAs1 11 Mar 2008, 11:50
nice uselessism :<
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darnok 11 Mar 2008, 11:51
ok so I had an DELL 21" Trinitron and I couldn't run it with 160 hz even on 640x480 resolution 8)
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dEzIrE 11 Mar 2008, 11:49
i have no idea but im 2st!
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Nonix 11 Mar 2008, 11:57
125 fps r_mode 4 -> 120 hz the best imo
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douille 11 Mar 2008, 11:58
buy it but run it @ fps = hz.
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sAs1 11 Mar 2008, 12:04
would i want to get a 19 inch rather than a 21 inch or the other way around for some reason ?
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Paintrain 11 Mar 2008, 12:11
21" is better, cause the actual visible size of the screen of a CRT is a bit smaller than of a TFT. Take into consideration that a 21" is large and heavy though, you need enough space for it.
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douille 11 Mar 2008, 12:11
only if it goes higher in hz.
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godez 11 Mar 2008, 12:13
yes it means you can play @ r_mode 4 @ 160 hz but the problem is that you only have 125 fps max.

imo: play @ r_mode 6 @ 120 hz!

edit: r_mode 4 @ 21" = ugly!
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eVo 11 Mar 2008, 12:15
agree with this man
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CPU 11 Mar 2008, 12:33
agree too,

btw best setting 21" = imo 1600x1200 @ 100/120 Hz
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eVo 11 Mar 2008, 12:38
i would never use r_mode 6 because i prefer a higher resolution so would tend to agree with you :P
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heaven 11 Mar 2008, 12:21
yes, you can.

what brand is it? crt's are hard to come by these days.
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sAs1 11 Mar 2008, 12:52
Samtron model: 98PDF L 19"

http://tolvutaekni.is/images/Samtron-98PDF.jpg


Anyone know if its a good monitor ?
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jeje 11 Mar 2008, 13:37
I can't help because I don't know this brand.
But if you're searching after an ownage crt monitor, just buy an iiyama vision master pro. I have the 514 (22 inch) for years and it rox !
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heaven 11 Mar 2008, 15:25
AFAIK, they don't even make CRTs anymore.
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jeje 11 Mar 2008, 23:10
But ebay is your friend and you can repair it !! :)
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Decade 11 Mar 2008, 12:32
as already said, you should ba able to play r_mode 6 at 120 hz
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duKe_ 11 Mar 2008, 12:59
i got a 21" CRT aswell. For the most CRT's is the hz value percentage to the resolution. That means that the example

Quote 280x1024/98Hz · 1600x1200/85Hz · 1600x1280/75Hz
640x480/160 Hz · 800x600/160 Hz


is mostly the other way around like:

800x600/ 85 hz max - 1024x786/ 100 hz... and so on.
A higher resolution give you the option for a higher hz value.


My resolution is 1280x1024 and i can run this on 120 hz.

And dont forgett that hz have nothing to do with fps ;]
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dEzIrE 11 Mar 2008, 13:10
hi mr. ihazaniceprofile :o)
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Ronner 11 Mar 2008, 13:10
eehm duke? If you have no clue what you are talking about then don't ;)

The higher the resolution, the lower the hz will be that the monitor can handle on that resolution. Period.
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duKe_ 11 Mar 2008, 13:14
well, if i would have no clou you can be sure i just stfu then ^^

The most CRT's i saw @ my Work were from the Company Nokia and Sony. Both are always bring you a higher hz value just on a high resolution. Maybe the lowprice CRT's do it the other way around ;]
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Ronner 11 Mar 2008, 13:16
Really, stop. You are making a fool out of yourself. There are no such CRT monitors that can handle higher Hz as the resolution goes up. No matter what price-range you look in. Lower resolutions will always be able to handle higher hz than higher resolutions.
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duKe_ 11 Mar 2008, 13:29
Iam sitting infront of a Nokia 4451XiPlus [21" CRT]. This monitor support a resolution with 1800 x 1440 and a hz value of 125 on this.

If i gonna take just a resolution of 800 x 600 it just support the hz of 85.

Thats the fact what iam talking about.


*edit*

Here an Example:

At a resolution of 1024 x 768 Pixel and a horizontalfrequenzy of 86 kHz is a max. Displayrefresh of 105 hz possible. 86000 Hz : 768 = 112 Hz, 5 % subtraction cuz of the setback from right down to left up give's you 105 Hz.
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Frop 11 Mar 2008, 13:50
Obviously your CRT is the cheap one that for some obscure reason sucks ass at lower resolutions.

I'm sitting in front of a Compaq P1220, a 22" Trinitron CRT that used to cost around 900 dollars back in 2001.

640x480 - 150 Hz
800x600 - 150 Hz
1024x768 - 150 Hz
1280x960 - 120 Hz
1280x1024 - 100 Hz
1600x1200 - 100 Hz
1920x1080 - 85 Hz
2048x1536 - 75 Hz

Do you see a pattern here?
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duKe_ 11 Mar 2008, 14:01
Well, i dont know how much it had cost tbh.

But my Company is working with this Series a long time already and i dont think they would buy cheap ones. But i also think all the facts we are talking about depends mostly on the Monitor itself. So we guys wont a find a solution for our conversation.
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Ronner 11 Mar 2008, 17:04
This is not a case of solution or not, it's a case of simple fact. And the simple fact is, higher resolution means lower hz. This is not a matter of opinion or cheap or expensive monitors but a matter of actual fact.

Perhaps you should read what gaso wrote ;-)
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Gaso 11 Mar 2008, 14:12
You are confusing horizontal and vertical frequency with each other.

Horizontal frequency is the time it takes for the monitor to draw a single scan line. 86 kHz means, that it takes 1/86000 seconds to draw a single line.

Vertical frequency is the speed at which the monitor refreshes the whole screen. 85 Hz means the electron gun sweeps the image 85 times in a second from top to bottom. For the end user, this rate is the significant number, which dictates your screen's flicker rate.

This site lists your monitor's refresh rates. As you can see, the rate decreases when resolution increases.
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alexL 11 Mar 2008, 13:11
hhahahahahahaha
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duKe_ 11 Mar 2008, 13:14
shut up hacker
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alexL 11 Mar 2008, 13:38
hacker :DDDDDDDD?
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Deactivated5924 11 Mar 2008, 14:11
QuoteAnd dont forgett that hz have nothing to do with fps ;]




clueless


Quotemore resolution = more hz


wrong
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duKe_ 11 Mar 2008, 13:37
you are the retard cuz if my drivers wont support more that 85hz why can i get then 120 hz on a higher resolution. Just stfu k?
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