Maxpackets Whine.

http://www.challenge-tv.com/putty/q3table.html

Now you can all SHUT THE FUCK UP and stop telling me to change my maxpackets, even though I already explained that it doesn't fucking matter.

edit:

ET would be a much better place if 125 maxpackets was implemented.
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Meez has spoken!
..I think most people know that by now
then why do people still whine about it every fucking game?
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coz some retards set <60
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I have unstable FPS at a lot of places, and the fluctuation of packets being sent is less at maxpackets 40/42 than 60/63.
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They don't at me atleast. :\
Not even once a month i get comments about my 63 maxpackets.
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?????????????????
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It would be enough to pm the ones that actually whined, but well you need attention... I have no idea how much maxpackets you have and believe me, I don't care.
it matters..
I miss the rate whine
Ahh, the good old rate 7000 + maxpackets 15 + snaps 314159 + pronehopping + /shrug
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lol, I meant to say "snaps whine" but somehow I wrote rate and didnt understand I meant the different word :(
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saintt called me netsetlamer when we played a draw on valhalla many years ago, I had 100 maxpackets and 20 snaps, at the time u were able to set 40 snap :XDDD
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Though my knowledge is low-, snaps are the rate at which the server takes information (screenshots). So technically, it doesn't matter what your snap figure is, it's a server variable.

(I think)
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it never had any real meaning in ET
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No, that's sv_fps. sv_fps sets the amount of snapshots rendered by the server per second.
snaps and rate limit the clients download. snaps sets the amount of snapshots send to the client by the server and rate limits the bandwidth. (e.g. snaps is set to 20: if your rate is too low and you exceed the limit after, say, 19 snapshots the server will not send you snapshot #20 or delay it(?))
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That's actually what I meant, but I didn't want to get too technical :D

I thought they basically have the same function? (At least their values are always going to be proportional, at least in ET anyway)

(edit* - reading bitmap.se's comment, I guess I was partially right, "snaps 40 never made any sense (server runs @ sv_fps 20, so it will never send more than 20 snaps/s).")

Local client (independent fps value) sends information to server, server regardless of how many screenshots client is processing, only 'passes on' (processes, i.e. calculates damage done etc) 20 (in this case), to client B, whose also probably playing with a different fps value.
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boring... but ronner4life
kinda old, but a random question: why can't 125 maxpackets be enabled?
one of many questions,
why cant we use b_simpleitems 1?
why cant we use snaps 40?
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B_simpleitems is disabled , because some cheats have similar displays for the guns , so PBSS Could be explained because of this cvar

and snaps cant be 40 anymore becuz it was bugged or sth

Oh an implenting cl_maxpackets 125 would need a lot of coding
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quake 3 has maxpackets 125
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ET doesnt , because it was to hard to code /P

There was a thread about it on the etpro forums some time ago
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oh, thought it'd be easy since it's already in q3
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According to the etpro coding team not , but since they also refuse to share their code with ETACE ...
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You have a link to that?

It looks really easy to change (unless I'm mistaken), but it can't be done in a mod so they wouldn't be able to do it without id/Actv releasing a new client update.
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Indeed. Should just be a number in the engine.
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snaps 40 never made any sense (server runs @ sv_fps 20, so it will never send more than 20 snaps/s).
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Because snaps 40 is completely pointless?
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Only if server runs sv_fps 20
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in rtcw and q3 they have it they used to have simpleitems and 40snaps didnt they?, just wonderd why it got removed
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Parts of the gamecode (rtcw/et) are dependent on sv_fps 20. Other values will result in bugs. There was a thread about it on the sd forums years ago. It was confirmed by the developers.
That's why sv_fps is locked to 20 in etpro.

Snaps 40 is pointless without sv_fps 40. The server can't send more snapshots than it rendered.
Just using snaps 40 with sv_fps 20 might result in the server rate-limiting the client (not sending or delaying snapshots), because the server miscalculates the amount of data it send to you (or smth like that; there's a post by reyalP(?) on the etpro forums about it).

CPMa on the other hand is optimised for sv_fps 30, thus using snaps 30 is the best option.
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ok, thanks alot for clearing that up
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b_simpleitems is allowed in esl cfg
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i don't get it, explain plX
plix I wanna smeka you at vent boi!
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du är så fin!
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I can feel if someone is using less than 90 straight away.
JUST KEEP 100 , IF IT DOESNT MATTER THEN KEEP 100 LOL , THEN EVERYONE IS HAPPY!
If i has 125 FPS stable + X maxpackets ?hmm..
100 MAXPAX, 100 FPS, 100 HZ > *
I despise you, with your damn CRT monitor.
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Suck my cock, griim.
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Just because 6man is in Ireland doesn't mean you can steal his lines. He shall return and his vengence will be swift.
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not really, thats just placebo

mouserate + fps is quite an important thing to have synced, but vsync is really overrated
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e.g.?

So mouse hertz 500 and maxfps 100 = 5 = fine
hertz 1000 and maxfps 125 = 0,8 = not so fine
hertz 500 and maxfps 125 = 4 = fine ?
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I think he means 125hz - 125 fps.

500hz and 125 fps isn't rly synced :)
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Doesn't sound logically.
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hertz 1000 and maxfps 125 = 0,8 = not so fine

8 you mean...?
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Somehow or other.....yes :P
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You just say that becouse you've a shitty megaWideMaster 22""" inches LCD :(

Smoothest feeling ever:

100 Hz / 100 packets / 100 fps / 500/1000 Hz mouserate / process priority -> high
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Enjoy your tearing!
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tearing is acceptable comparing to the smoothness. and atleast I got used to it pretty quickly.
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Ive played with both, and I prefer 125fps, 120hz, 500hz mouse (500/4 = 125) and 42 maxpackets.
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I found my settings smoother than any else setup, becouse the FPS and Hz is in sync, I even play q3 with 100/100/500/100...

One solution would be to force monitor Hz to 125 with powerstrip but cba to configure :>
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TEARING > * ?
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40 ftw! xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

I can/could change it anytime, but... why? I like this whine! When someone called me "unhittable retard" for the 1st time it was annoying, but now it's really funny! So go on with your whine xDDDDDDDD
maxpackets 100 or gtfo
rate 25000 or gtfo
good internetconnection or gtfo
coming from a country with horrible internet?
move to a decent country or play another game
you are so cool
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change name to hitler and start to rape children or G T F O
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well said meez
Meez just suck's.
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