What a stupid scene...

by fuxor • 15 Apr 2008, 15:42 • Journals
Well after that big bust with etx and bimbot users list i feel so confused.
i have never accused axel, boumbo or craz for cheating even if i thought they are obvious and just "got skills" i have never thought they could do that.
so tell me, how can we trust anyone nowadays? everyone can be a cheater, even I, even you...
its so shit and et each day becomes more stupid for me, but anyway i love to play this game... :-(
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perforator 15 Apr 2008, 16:43
COMMIT SUICIDE, YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO
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fuxor 15 Apr 2008, 16:45
i wont suicide or cry because of a game, but i really liked et and people performing every day in its world, and i really liked that people. and now they are busted an i know they lied me. this game is only fun for me, but more cheaters and liers = less fun for me.
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RazZaH 15 Apr 2008, 16:49
lets go drink some beer :)

stop beein saaaaaaaaadbunny
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fuxor 15 Apr 2008, 16:54
i will idd!
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cRz 15 Apr 2008, 16:43
welcome to et :'(
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kRONE 15 Apr 2008, 16:43
trust Finland
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fuxor 15 Apr 2008, 16:44
ye. i should trust mind :f





not!
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ENSJQM 15 Apr 2008, 16:45
well he never used it in wars + he sent it to PB when he got bored of raging pubs with it.

17:53 -!- mode/#MASCULINE_MANS [-o mind`] by ENSAM
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fuxor 15 Apr 2008, 16:46
how can u know it, do u live with him ?:d
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Panda 15 Apr 2008, 17:48
Maybe because he is/was in the same clan as him? :P
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perforator 15 Apr 2008, 16:46
PB obviously dealt with the problems caused by ETX!
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ENSJQM 15 Apr 2008, 16:49
i think it was detected for some time. didnt really cause any damage though
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sol 15 Apr 2008, 16:49
Amazing stuff...
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ENSJQM 15 Apr 2008, 17:02
notice that we still kicked him even im 99% sure he never used it in our wars
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im a tree 15 Apr 2008, 17:09
he did a REALLY suspicious rifle shot last time i played against him, but i didnt notice much else
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cryptz 15 Apr 2008, 18:26
i have a 14 slots mumble server \o/
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sol 15 Apr 2008, 17:11
That's not really the point, it just amazes me how people feel as though they can account for their clanmates. For example, the fact that you say he 'never used it in wars' - how sure of that can you be? Unless you're actually spectating him then you have no way of knowing, he could have used it whenever he wanted, even if it was only once or twice in a war. You damage the scene by putting trust in such people and you should have kicked him as soon as you were aware of him cheating, even if you thought it was only on public, because you can never be sure of that being true - not to mention the fact that cheating on publics is just as bad as cheating in wars.

It's like Meez and nevari all over again.
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butchji 15 Apr 2008, 17:19
You really say some random public hack used on some random jaymod server is as bad as cheating in an EC final?
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sol 15 Apr 2008, 17:33
What is a cheater? A cheater is someone who has no issues with fucking people over. Doing so on a public server damages the roots of the game and prospective competitive players may be put off as a result of a bad experience on a public, it's a case of biting the hand that's feeding you. It's not a difficult concept to grasp, therefore anyone with the mentality that cheating on publics is okay obviously doesn't give a shit.

As such, if I'm aware that someone is actively 'cheating on publics' then that, in my opinion, completely ruins their credibility, and I categorise them as a cheater, ie. someone who doesn't give a shit. Even if it was a clanmate of over a year, you can never be completely sure they only used it on publics. As I said: a cheater is someone who has no problem fucking other people over, so how do you put so much faith into someone that they only do so on publics, maybe they like fucking people over in 3on3s too. If they have that kind of mentality in the first place then it's not much of a stretch for them to succumb to temptation and do so elsewhere. The truth is that you can never be sure that they didn't use it in the odd prac, or 3on3, or even an official every now and then.

In short, it damages the fucking game, be it on a public or during a prac, there's no need to distinguish between them.
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Panda 15 Apr 2008, 17:49
How do you know it was Jaymod? I bet you was on the server with him!!! :D
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Giusto 15 Apr 2008, 18:19
Random Public Jaymod server, ClanWar, EC final, whoever hacks deserves a ban...
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ENSJQM 15 Apr 2008, 17:19
I believe I would have noticed something (skillboost, suspicious actions) and he wouldnt have told me about it if he intended to use it in our clan matches. But yes, I cant be 100% sure.
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lettu 15 Apr 2008, 17:43
its really hard to notice that someone is cheating when u play with them
i didnt notice jada cheating at all when i was playing with him and all of a sudden some enemy started complaining when he had over 100hs in supply then i knew something was off
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Steven Seagal 15 Apr 2008, 17:45
damm your sharp man
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lettu 15 Apr 2008, 17:49
dam dam
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Steven Seagal 15 Apr 2008, 18:01
Quote100hs in supply then i knew something was off
:D
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lettu 15 Apr 2008, 18:15
u completely missed what i ment
mostly because of my english but whatever
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Steven Seagal 15 Apr 2008, 18:19
no i get your point, i just find the sentence abit funny mr :-[
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lettu 15 Apr 2008, 17:44
just a note ur talking with a guy who got busted himself :P
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lettu 15 Apr 2008, 17:38
H A H
even i know he used it in wars sometimes
and tell me why would someone buy a cheat and only use it couple times in public.. didnt he even try nexus before that?
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kRONE 15 Apr 2008, 16:48
he isn't Finland. he's Anonymous
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Woodd 15 Apr 2008, 16:43
#ask_perfo @QNET! tbh
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ENSJQM 15 Apr 2008, 16:47
what is the problem if you dont even notice when someone is cheating? :-)

i had no problem playing against vib. didnt notice anything weird.
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fuxor 15 Apr 2008, 16:53
it hurts me that i know they werent that good to play vs me on that level they did, because they were only using some program to be skilled. its not about i didnt see anythign strange, its about they were low/+ themselves but with hax they were performing on good level
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parra 15 Apr 2008, 21:56
i heared something funny about u 2 :) maybe it will be exposted to
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ENSJQM 15 Apr 2008, 22:04
what did you hear?
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Deactivated6709 15 Apr 2008, 16:47
play as me and noone will ever accuse u m8... u dont need to say thanks
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gamp 15 Apr 2008, 16:48
could someone paste a link to that list of bimbot users ?
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rapture 15 Apr 2008, 16:49
wheres the cheater list? plz paste link or names! :/
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sol 15 Apr 2008, 16:50
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=forum&mode=item&id=15137
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rapture 15 Apr 2008, 16:53
wtf...i dont know anyone of them..;p)

this has to end...thought theres some new anti-cheat client..nothing forced yet? :(
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pupupup 15 Apr 2008, 16:50
ootaks oikeesti että mindi kertoo sulle joka asiassa totuuden :X
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kRONE 15 Apr 2008, 16:51
pariskunnat yleensä kertoo kaiken toisilleen!!!!!!!!!!!
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Johnn 15 Apr 2008, 16:53
YOUR A FUCKING HACKER SO YOU CAN STFU RETARDED PLOISH CUNT!
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RazZaH 15 Apr 2008, 16:55
stfu moron
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Johnn 15 Apr 2008, 16:57
Just pointing out the inrony here. really so funny
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RazZaH 15 Apr 2008, 16:58
not rly
u failed
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Johnn 15 Apr 2008, 17:00
Okay i " failed" just because everyone else on crossfire says this doesnt make you cool. Also trying to spell correctly does help when flaming people over the internet and also why are you trying to protect a cheater \o/
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RazZaH 15 Apr 2008, 17:04
i dont care if someone cheats or not. i dont know if fuxor cheats and tbh fuck off cheating...if my best friend is doing some shit in rl like stealing cigarettes at supermarket i wont say...gtfo to him just because he made a mistake in his life....CARE...

imo friendship is more important than this...


bb
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mjazgun 15 Apr 2008, 16:54
et scene, something strange ? :)
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kRONE 15 Apr 2008, 16:59
most of those ETX users are from Poland and France. something strange? :)
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mstk 15 Apr 2008, 17:05
All those Ex-Germans...
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kRONE 15 Apr 2008, 17:06
even too stupid to be Germany yermans = insta France frenchtard
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Jinosta 15 Apr 2008, 17:01
Need pb to search for the actually commands or a config for 3on3 and 6on6 that has all commands in it? imo... wouldn't that be like soo much easier?
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julianK<3foonr 15 Apr 2008, 17:02
I knew craz cheated.
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cryptz 15 Apr 2008, 18:27
i knew you knew
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julianK<3foonr 15 Apr 2008, 18:28
How did you know I knew? I never told anyone.
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cryptz 15 Apr 2008, 18:29
i just knew, instinct really
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adze 15 Apr 2008, 17:10
hoi fuxor. What's up mate? =>
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fuxor 15 Apr 2008, 19:23
im fine. idle #signum :D
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adze 15 Apr 2008, 19:39
I haven't been in IRC since years :D
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rapture 15 Apr 2008, 17:12
no, i know that u're saving money atm for some uberhax!!
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rapture 15 Apr 2008, 17:20
hehe

btw work for me =(
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rapture 15 Apr 2008, 17:31
i dont like guys with 10 xfire accounts
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