KiLl3rBoY's obsession
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17 Apr 2008, 20:53
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Ok, I don't know why but KiLl3rBoY seems to hold some sort of grudge against some players, let's name some:
Fab
Syntic
HellGast
Bigsmoke
and Fab some more...
In your most recent attempt to a bust you posted some very authentic looking screenshots that was supposed to convince people that you have indeed caught a cheater.
However... that bust does not proof that the person you busted is Fab, it could have been anyone, Fab has a dynamic IP... the IP's match, the guid matches(spoofable) and that's it.
I asked KiLl3rBoY if he's got anything personally against them, he responded that he simply does not like cheaters.
Why don't you get that if people put a lot of time and effort into a hobby that they get better at it?
Now, there is no evidence what so ever, KiLl3rBoY is allready stating they are cheaters, does this seem right to you?
Innocent till proven guilty KiLl3rBoY, innocent till proven guilty..
Worst part is that everybody blindly follows you, no matter what happens now, fab will allways be labeled a cheater...
EDIT:
Until proven that the person going by the name of NooBy is indeed Fab, it is highly unfair to assume it is fab and consider it to be evidence, imagine if this would happen to you...
Also, you claim that pbguids can't be spoofed.
And that your bust was valid.
You know that fab's IP is dynamic, and that etpro guids CAN be spoofed.
Then you catch someone called NooBy for cheating, someone with a DIFFERENT pbguid then FAB.
Now if Fab would really be NooBy, and what you say about pbguids is true, then how come NooBy has a different pbguid then fab? if it can not be spoofed then how would fab be able to? meanwhile fab's pbguid has not changed.
Fab
Syntic
HellGast
Bigsmoke
and Fab some more...
In your most recent attempt to a bust you posted some very authentic looking screenshots that was supposed to convince people that you have indeed caught a cheater.
However... that bust does not proof that the person you busted is Fab, it could have been anyone, Fab has a dynamic IP... the IP's match, the guid matches(spoofable) and that's it.
I asked KiLl3rBoY if he's got anything personally against them, he responded that he simply does not like cheaters.
Why don't you get that if people put a lot of time and effort into a hobby that they get better at it?
Now, there is no evidence what so ever, KiLl3rBoY is allready stating they are cheaters, does this seem right to you?
Innocent till proven guilty KiLl3rBoY, innocent till proven guilty..
Worst part is that everybody blindly follows you, no matter what happens now, fab will allways be labeled a cheater...
EDIT:
Until proven that the person going by the name of NooBy is indeed Fab, it is highly unfair to assume it is fab and consider it to be evidence, imagine if this would happen to you...
Also, you claim that pbguids can't be spoofed.
And that your bust was valid.
You know that fab's IP is dynamic, and that etpro guids CAN be spoofed.
Then you catch someone called NooBy for cheating, someone with a DIFFERENT pbguid then FAB.
Now if Fab would really be NooBy, and what you say about pbguids is true, then how come NooBy has a different pbguid then fab? if it can not be spoofed then how would fab be able to? meanwhile fab's pbguid has not changed.
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btw nice english (Y)
So many people just blindly following their idols holy shit...
innocent till proven guilty bullshit? do you happen to be religious as well?
Don't trust your word anymore.. just your word won't do.
I think you are obvious you should be banned imo.
btw can't u just realise that u are kinda biased or don't want to get your mate busted, so can u stop with this already and we see if bulldog thinks it's worth a ban or not, it's kinda useless to attack killerboy's person for nothing
And now this is some brilliant thinking that u say I should get banned. Make some avis of me that are even half that obvious and we can talk about it
Biased in what way?
As there is no definite proof that fab is the cheater, I just think it is wrong to label him a cheater, it's just wrong.
Besides I'm not attacking killerboy, I'm not attacking anyone in fact.
I'm not saying you should get banned, it was just an argument against the 'ban for suspicious avi' mentality.
Avi's should not be used as 'evidence' everyone gets some amazing shots, what's next, banning based on fragmovies?:P
u are fab's mate, that's why u are biased... if u were just some outsider trying to defend him, u wouldn't be biased. Eg. mens0 once said to me htat one guy isn't hacking because he first thought it was his mate, but later it turned out it wasn't the same guy and after that mens0 was sure the guy was hacking... so it's a bit same situation with u and fab atm..
btw, tell me a way how private hax would get busted, because they don't cause red yawns or give dirty pb shots.. imo avis are only way to bust such
Why does that have any relevance to what I aim saying, that it doesnt happen doesnt per sé mean it is justified.
It was a statement, I'm not actually accusing you of anything.
Actually I am not biased, ofcourse I am fab's mate and personally I do not think fab hacks, because I know him that well, however, I am posting here with a 'innocent till proven guilty' mentality and in my opinion, that shows in my posts.
With the 'fab bust' I have allways posted like this:
"But this does not(yet?) prove that the cheater is indeed Fab."
Notice the '(yet?)' part?
I am basing my posts on what evidence there is, and the (yet?) part on what evidence there is said to be(wich I - again, personally - doubt is authentic), personally I believe Fab, but I think I'm doing a pretty good job keeping an objective mind on this matter.
So I'd say the situation is different...
And as to your last question, there is no way to 100% proof that, let's see if ETAce can change that!
Till then, does the OMG AVI GRAB YOUR TORCHES AND PITCHFORK approach really seem fair to you?
I think it's good pp lcare about the game and try to bust the cheaters. I think there aren't many cheaters around and the whole cheater paranoia is kinda overrated, but fab would fulfill the requirements of one
ip match of a dynamic ip...
Suspicious avi's don't mean shit, everyone gets some lucky kills.
Wether someone is random is relative to who it is that finds him random, he's not random to a LOT of people, he is random to the others.
Same applies for you, you are not random to some amount of people, but completely random to another, stop using the whole 'random thing' like it's accurate, and as if it is some kind of insult.
It's not an insult to not be known by you:P
A lot of people care about the game, fab is one of them.
Fab would fullfill what requirements? that the leaders of the witchhunt has set? The community made the 'fab situation' one that suits the requirements, not fab:P
To me he is a random in 3on3, if he has never even looking for a 3on3 HIGH skill prac nor has played one. No one I asked has ever played a 3on3 aganst him, and I asked ppl who play high skilled 3on3 pracs on a daily basis.
Some ppl think playing EC is the end to one's randomness, but I don't agree totally on that..
Fab fulfills the requirements meaning, he came out of nowhere (owning many high 3on3 teams now without ever playing a high skilled 3on3 game). There are many suspicious scenes by him from ONE game. He acts like a haxer having stuff like "no red triangles in yawn" in his profile. In-game he plays like nirv, otherwise kinda crappy, but when needed he gives the 3hs so that they win the map. I can name u a lot more of these if u didn't get what I mean yet..
How hard is it for you to understand, we haven't actually seen any evidence of that.
Fab did not come out of nowhere, I've seen his skill evolve over the years.
At first we searched for low skilled wars(when we were still in the same clan together).. then after a while, low+, later on med-/med, months later med/med+ and we even played some high matches right before I quit ET, not much and we lost most of the time.
It's not that hard for me to imagine they all got better within that year... Shouldn't be to hard for you too.
Still, I emphasize, he hasn't played any high skill match vs a dozen guys that play high skill pracs on a daily basis, and yet he owns all high skill teams I can think of... what do u make of that?
There is no evidence that fab went on crossfire with that ip, an admins word is not exactly evidence.
practice practice practice, and yes, even vs high skill teams
if they played vs high skill teams, how is it possible none of the guys I asked (playing high skill games daily) has ever played vs them?
Actual data, logs, exactly how the admins supposedly found out, make the data public.
Hooray for ignorance... that you don't see any elephants running around in your neighbourhood doesn't mean they don't exist.
GET OVER IT
I had more dmg than him, that's what I played for !
and tell me one team that he wouldn't own then
Syntic
HellGast
Bigsmoke
have never heard of any of these people :o(
emortal on 17/04/08, 21:01:38 Del | Edit | Nuke | PM | Reply
no one has heard of you :|
=DDD
2. he even acts like a hacker (watch that profile... he's stupid as lAguna "no red yawn =)" )
3. those actions in ETTV/avi's were bit too obvious
Apparently, some guy named NooBy, and dude, fab has been playing for around 3 years, get it into your head!
That's the lamest thing ever, I could say KiLl3rBoY acts like a hacker he's doing all these 'busts' to cover up for himself!
Holy shit even you had good days, absurd frags, everyone has, those avi's proof he's got some fragmovie material, not that he's a cheater.
Been banned from that teamspeak server ever since...
yeah i know ppl has good days... i guess Fab had very nice day... dreaming about days when my movements would look like humanized.. Fab's day has to were like, he won jackpot in lottery, fucked swimsuit models 24/7, won olympic gold medal in men's 100m and won Champions League alone.... damn it was a great day
plz cmon... get out from his ass rly.. can see only your toes!
all "proofs" says that Fab is hacking..
btw about those ETTV/avi actions... do you have a dog? sounds weird when a blind guy is walking without a guide-dog
kRONE HAS SPOKEN
Lolled @ that. :D
First of, flaming is not gonna help.
Is that you trying to say someone got lucky?
Out of his ass? Very childish man, I'm trying to defend someone who has not been proven to be a cheater, I'm quite baffled by the fact that nobody else is seeing how KiLl3rBoY's behaviour could hurt the community.
All proofs say some guy named NooBy was cheating, not that Fab was cheating.
I'm not even gonne comment on that last part...
so what's so special to protect? is he paying for you?
Does not compute.
I'm not flaming him anymore then he is flaming fab.
I'm not defending fab because he is my friend, I'm defending him because everyone is labeling him a cheater whereas there is no proof(yet?) that the person that killerboy busted - NooBy - is fab.
isn't it kinda obvious u only do this because he is your boyfriend
Sigh, very mature man, very mature..
He is my friend in deed, but think about this; what would be in it for me to defend him? I quit ET a long time ago, I haven't read crossfire in ages, and all I get right now are 'you are retarded' replies.
True if it was anyone else I would probably never have noticed such a 'bust', because - as I said - I don't read crossfire that much anymore.
I'm doing this because I'd hate to see anyone being labeled - or worse, banned - for cheating even tho there isn't enough proof to be sure he actually is a cheater besides some jpeg's and an .avi file, wich really can't be held as evidence.
There is no proof that fab went on crossfire with the same ip.
There is said to be proof of that but only the admins can acces it... if it is true they should not hold back evidence or they could as well ban me saying they have evidence only admins can acces that I murdered and raped 1337 frogs.
He proved that some guy cheated, not that that guy is FAB.
tosser.
all your "busts" are doing is making you unpopular.
still, there are way more people that would like to see him banned, including me
That's not any argument to justify a ban...
We should ASSUME fab isn't hacking until it is proven he is.
If that never happens, tough luck for killerboy, but fab will allways be labeled a cheater.
I think some of RaZiels shots look dodgy, some of your shots look dodgy, those once every thousand frags everyone makes look dodgy.
not at all, its just a general thing that alot of people flame while they have done fuck all.
in all honesty if people get so "up in arms" about fab's "bust" then people will be just as happy to flame killerboy when he is wrong, so people will notice.
imo untill proved guilty or not there will ofc be some people thinking oh he hacks but, if killerboy fucks up people are just as happy throwing it in his face, so imo people will realise Fab doesnt hack.
its not like crossfire doesnt like looking for fuckups :D
Innocent till proven guilty is what I believe in, but fab's allready got the label of cheater, and will never get rid of it.
will get attention but things like " http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=forum&mode=item&id=15205 "
dont exactly help Fab's case :D
Fab has a dynamic IP, it hasnt(yet?) been proven that NooBy is fab, as KiLl3rBoY said, can't spoof pbguids?:)
I'm sure there are dozens more 'cases' like this one.
You are biased.
All these guys who are defending this retard called "Fab" are 15-16 year old :-----D
Try to face it - he's hacking!
ps. If he has been playin' for 3 years - show me his former YAWn entry then!
You are biased.
Everyone isn't mentally challenged like you & co
If he doesn't hack people will be told about it.
And I didn't judge him because of that avi, but there were more proofs shown yesterday (pbbans site)