10 days prison or 500€ fine?
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2 May 2008, 14:52
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what do you think is better?
paying 500 euros or going into prison for 10 days?
and im not talking about assraping prison, just a small prison where ppl that dont want to pay minor fines go for some days...
paying 500 euros or going into prison for 10 days?
and im not talking about assraping prison, just a small prison where ppl that dont want to pay minor fines go for some days...
a chance to learn something new in life and learn a lesson about not doing crimes anymore!
and i dont have a job right now (because of that incident tbfh :d )
or something better.. but maybe only 2-3 ppl on crossfire are in the position to do smth like that so i won't say :P
2)Pay the judge
3)Niko Bellic option.
But most people don't earn € 500 in 10 days.
If I would have the money I would pay, but if it would be to hard to earn the money back I would go to jail.
and you won't get free days from work to go to jail, you'll prolly lose ur jobs if you chose for the jail option xD
and you'll prolly lose ur job by going to jail, I think my boss wouldn't like it if I wasn't comming for 10 days because i'm in jail
Polak???
but 1500 euro/month is normal for most people even in belgium and the netherlands. (most don't earn more then 1500 netto/month)
I was more aiming at the crossfire people then the whole EU
Think working > prison by a lot. I dont like the idea of being told when to eat piss and sleep :/
I like this journal, almost as epic as the butchji hacking on ETTV journal two years ago!
normally you would have to pay the food etc you consumed in prison afterward, but if you say: hey i wanna work (giving out food at lunchtime for example) you dont have to pay anything, EVEN if theres no more work left to do.
If you are lucky, you will even get a nextdoor jailmate. But that's unlikely, cause there arent anyone.
and dude, didnt you have the possibility to do get an alternative punishment such as the "work punishment" (no idea how to call it in english, peine de travail in french, arbeitsstrafe in german). Normally there is a way to have it
cash is growing on trees in austria? :o
i would pay 5000e even if i had to borrow and pay later
ffs the one in the place i was living before is even the best prison austria has, its like a beauty farm, big social rooms, with lots of sofas, painted walls, pictures on it, tvs playstations, etc. you just cant get out. too bad i cant go in this one anymore :p
real prison sux, idd. 6 ppl in a room made for 4. the one that gets the call home is beaten up after he gets back, etc. and youll probably get home with a drug addiction
ridicilous :S
"- la peine de police [...] emporte un emprisonnement de un à sept jours et une amende de 1 à 25 €. [...] peine de travail de 20 à 45 h.
- la peine correctionelle [...] comporte un emprisonnement de huit jours à cinq ans, et une amende supérieure ou égale à 26 €; la peine de travail de 46 à 300 heures.
- la peine criminelle: réclusion de 5 à 10 ans, réclusion de 10 à 15 ans, [...] réclusion à perpétuité, la peine d'amende est égale ou supérieure à 26 €.
Ici, il faut qu'on prenne en considération le multiplicateur pour la peine d'amende qui est de x5.5"
ok and now the articles concerning the personal records:
"articles 619 et 620 du code instruction criminelle"
Effacées autmatiquement après 3 années sont:
les peines de police
les peines d'emprisonnement de six mois au plus
les peines d'amendes correctionnelles ne dépassant pas 500 € !!! There you go
If i am not wrong you have to order réhabilitation
I am not going to write down the whole text and how-to, just read the articles 621-634 du code d'instruction criminelle
and i have taken note that the employer is not allowed get permission of insight in your personal records. the only ones who have are you and the attorney and it has only juridicial effects for future (eventual) convictions
going out now c u later baby xX
and edit. what did u do?:D
lol prison isn't a fun, u don't wanna spent there even 1day probably
svepe is right
b) go to jail and pay for TV and playstation. At least in Belgium you can get those when you are in jail. Its still prison, but you should survive it :P
c) ask for electronic surveilance @ home. Some childhood friend of mine got busted with a huge amount of xtc pills. He just had to stay at home for a couple of months. No jail, no fine. Afaik lightning was sentenced to electronic surveilance a year ago and look how happy the guy is today.
d) put a kilo of coke in ur ass, go to jail and sell it to earn 500€. Next pay your fine and dont go to prison.
always look in ur back
Like Prision Break u are Micheal Scofield i can be ur brother np Lincoln
1) Paying the 500 € seems "much", but you work in those 10 days (we hypothetically forget weekend in this case) and can minimize the loss while in prison you do nothing and won't get paid. Hence you lose more money with going to prison than by paying the fine.
2) Forget about a good job if you have a criminal record. My dad couldn't even become a taxidriver with his criminal record (and that wasn't anything special).
3) People really underestimate jail. It's really not the paradise you all seem to think it is, but I guess it's "cool" to think like that.
"verwaltungs strafen" dont know in english.
In belgium if you commit a crimi and get a jail sentence less then two months you just have to go to the prison where they will tell you there isnt enough room and you are allowed to go home. In the Netherlands new prisons have been built.Over the years all criminals had to do their time which led to lower crime rates, and less people ending up in jail, leaving them with even more capacity to take in crimnals. Right now they even have the means to put some types of criminals on a boat as some kind of social rehabilition, the same kind of systems are being used in a lot of scandinavian countries where they have prison villages which look more like Centerparks.
If anyone lives in a shitcountry concerning prisons and 'rehabilitation centres' its us belgians.Laws were passed to let criminals do their time in their country of origin. In 2007 this law was applied once or twice on a prison population of around 8000 (? dont know exact numbers). The only progress we made is electronic surveilance, but in the mean time we manage to neglect our prisons, leaving the door whide open for criminals to walk out while new criminals are sent home due to capacity shortage :'(
we are the fail
And when you pay taxes for a jail like this:
I would feel robbed. That is no prison. How are they punished? They chose when to go to that prison, it isn't shown on their criminal record AND they have all the luxury they want.
Sorry, but installing this makes you a shitcountry.
just pay the fine :X
aka 'poor beyond imagination'
but most of the people u mention fall under that description too i guess
my food has to be paid and all the other logistics and work in the background.
i dont eat meat, and i know that it changes nothing. but if everyone would do that, what a super duper world we could have! :)