You can't be more German than Klose or Podolski. Germany growed them up, influenced them, taught them playing Football and made them what they are. Both feel exactly 0 per cent Polish, they just have the respect for their kinswoman, which they missed sometimes by a few Polish.
0 percent polish? Mabye Klose, but not Podolski. u should know that every year he coming to poland on vacation,he useing polish language at home and he has a polish girl.
Of course, I know that. A big part of his family is living in Poland so it's normal. He said exactly:"I was born in Poland, a big part of my family lives in Poland. So this country has a part of my heart. But I don't feel Polish in any way, but it is the deserved respect."
He just said exactly this in german television after this game. He just want to show respect, cause his father was in stadium with polish friends and stuff.
Another laughable comment, l6l. You don't know anything about both, the fact that they're speaking the language makes em at least 50% polish, they learned the mentioned language in their early life.
More detailed please. I can understand that you guys are disappointed, but talking all the time that they are Polish is just bullshit. And nothing of my text is wrong.
I don't feel disappointed at all, I expected that kind of score. I'm not talking that they're Polish all the time either. Klose left Poland when he was 9, I assume that's what makes him 0% Polish in your eyes :-)
I think I know much more about them than you. Did u know that Podolski went to Germany, when he was 2 years old? :P So much about that...
It's logical that he learned Polish aswell, because of his parents. And what the hell are you talking. Speaking a language makes u 50 % a nationality. So decem is Britain, Australian, American, Canadian etc?
Still laughable. The fact that his whole family/pedigree is polish and he was born there makes him a 'polish player'. He learned the language or his parents forced him to learn it, because they were convinced to live their life in poland, they had no plans to emigrate. As you already mentioned, your knowledge about them is greater than mine, you base that on what?
Just face it and stop talking bullshit about facts you don't have a clue, 5 minutes ago Podolski said that he's polish in his heart.
Actually you can be more German than Klose and Podolski. Wanna know how? By being born and raised in Germany and having a German mother and father.
But I assume you know them well enough to be able to claim that they both 'feel 0% Polish', indeed Podolski's flamboyant goal celebration certainly gives credence to that idea.
You have a nationality, or you don't have one. You also can't be a bit pregnant. You are pregnant, or you aren't, simple as.
It's just up to ur definition. Of course they feel with Poland, because they were born there and because many things of their life are related to Poland. And that is cool and ok. A very good action of Podolski. But they aren't Polish.
I don't like the focussing on nationalities anyway. But "they are Polish" excuses are annoying...
It's not about the nationality, it'a about their identity, about their 'polish identity'. In addition it's about the norms and ethical values they've learned and experienced in their early life.
You do realize that if you emigrate to a specific country you have to secure many connections, because you don't know anyone? Everything is foreign and you try to keep a strong connection with your family to survive a hard time (I know what I'm talking about, my parents also emigrated to germany and I was young, I guess I know how podolski and klose feel, I experienced the same). He was 2 years old and was still raised like a polish guy, because his parents still had the polish visions and they didn't were integrated yet. You have to be stupid if you think that his parents impropriated german norms and ethical values right after they went to germany.
I make it short as I have to react to too many people. You think that Poland influenced him more than Germany?
He went with 5 in a German School. Found German friends. Got mainly influenced by Germany and the German society. Of course there are some Polish influences....but nobody ever doubted that.
Lukas decided to play for Germany with 15 already, when nobody could ever know that he will even make it to the u19 national team.
So if you think that he is Polish and not German then take more of your pills.
You're quiet upset, you actually start to forget about the things you've mentioned.
Your latest comments doesn't make any sense. I'll leave this conversation, because you're narrow-minded and can't accept the truth, bibuy.
Both have polish identities, both have polish families. Ethnically both are polish (today and till their end of life), there's no argument against this thesis.
My point is and was that they are Germans. Saying a Pole would score for Germany is bullshit, simple as. And that was exactly the message of this journal.
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So if having a nationality is like being pregnant, then what is dual-citizenship? A lunch-break during an abortion?
Podolski is half-Polish and would have been equally entitled to represent them, before being capped for Germany. I don't see how you interpret that is being an excuse, nor how it can even be used as such. From what I can see people are just pointing out the irony of a Pole defeating the Polish in a football match.
To say you 'can't be more Germany than [them]', and that 'they feel 0% Polish' is just wrong.
It's not the same. It's just a so called comparison.
Both are Germans. A German as me or Butchji, not more, not less. Dual-citizenship is like having twins. Someone who has also another passport isn't less a German. And just because they were born in Poland aren't they less German than me. So it's true that u can't be more German than them.
Why are you deviating from your initial point? Initially you implied that they're completely homogenised Germans, which simply isn't true - Podolski, for example, was born of Polish parents in Poland, and only qualifies to play for Germany as a result of being naturalised. He is ethnically Polish and that's not an excuse, and while on the subject of excuses, could you clarify as to how that may even be used as an excuse?
But now you're talking about it from a legal point-of-view. I'm fully aware that if someone is a citizen of a certain country then, from a technical standpoint, a fellow citizen isn't any more or less associated with that country, that's pretty fucking obvious - it's not like certain citizens are granted specific priveleges as a result of being born within the country.
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You can't be more German than Klose or Podolski. Germany growed them up, influenced them, taught them playing Football and made them what they are. Both feel exactly 0 per cent Polish, they just have the respect for their kinswoman, which they missed sometimes by a few Polish.
All that counts is that he actually plays and played for Germany and Germany won against Poland.
Face it!
Also, read sol's comment.
It's logical that he learned Polish aswell, because of his parents. And what the hell are you talking. Speaking a language makes u 50 % a nationality. So decem is Britain, Australian, American, Canadian etc?
Just face it and stop talking bullshit about facts you don't have a clue, 5 minutes ago Podolski said that he's polish in his heart.
But I assume you know them well enough to be able to claim that they both 'feel 0% Polish', indeed Podolski's flamboyant goal celebration certainly gives credence to that idea.
It's just up to ur definition. Of course they feel with Poland, because they were born there and because many things of their life are related to Poland. And that is cool and ok. A very good action of Podolski. But they aren't Polish.
I don't like the focussing on nationalities anyway. But "they are Polish" excuses are annoying...
He went with 5 in a German School. Found German friends. Got mainly influenced by Germany and the German society. Of course there are some Polish influences....but nobody ever doubted that.
Lukas decided to play for Germany with 15 already, when nobody could ever know that he will even make it to the u19 national team.
So if you think that he is Polish and not German then take more of your pills.
You're quiet upset, you actually start to forget about the things you've mentioned.
Your latest comments doesn't make any sense. I'll leave this conversation, because you're narrow-minded and can't accept the truth, bibuy.
Both have polish identities, both have polish families. Ethnically both are polish (today and till their end of life), there's no argument against this thesis.
My point is and was that they are Germans. Saying a Pole would score for Germany is bullshit, simple as. And that was exactly the message of this journal.
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Podolski is half-Polish and would have been equally entitled to represent them, before being capped for Germany. I don't see how you interpret that is being an excuse, nor how it can even be used as such. From what I can see people are just pointing out the irony of a Pole defeating the Polish in a football match.
To say you 'can't be more Germany than [them]', and that 'they feel 0% Polish' is just wrong.
It's not the same. It's just a so called comparison.
Both are Germans. A German as me or Butchji, not more, not less. Dual-citizenship is like having twins. Someone who has also another passport isn't less a German. And just because they were born in Poland aren't they less German than me. So it's true that u can't be more German than them.
Ok it is in that way I expressed it.
But now you're talking about it from a legal point-of-view. I'm fully aware that if someone is a citizen of a certain country then, from a technical standpoint, a fellow citizen isn't any more or less associated with that country, that's pretty fucking obvious - it's not like certain citizens are granted specific priveleges as a result of being born within the country.
Both are Germans from the official side. (passport) And Germany is THE NATION, which influenced them mainly, which made them mainly what they are.
So saying a pole would score for Germany is wrong in any way.
someone said that, but to bad dont remember who;)
I never believed in this statement. :)
isn't it ironic ? :D
we are always loosers;)
Just bullshit to discuss about the nationality of a player, especially if he has it for such a long time.