I hereby vouch

I hereby vouch to not EVER play cod4 MP again in my life. I've never seen such a stupid campy, prediction and lotto based game in my life. It sucks and it will always suck.

Big fucking care what all you cod4 lovers will say, it fucking sucks anyway.

Hf with your stupid ak47, mp5 and wallbanging bullshit.
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Give to this man 20 warning points please.
u can try, but u will fail
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Fully agreed!
amen imo.. I've seen some shitgames in my life but cod bites the bullet.
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just wait for RTCW2 :/
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hehe (:
go for it ronner!
nope.. tried it, it really just sucks
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I meant, go for your reaction :D
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my reaction? as being pissed about some dumbass game?
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you got me ;)
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Amen, brother! It could be decent with ANY of the other gametypes, but no..
it was never meant to be decent. It was meant to sell, that's all..
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No.. the gameplay itself is really good, just that stupid S&D which is all campy. Domination and/or sabotage would be a lot more fun. Gametypes with respawns generally > bombmode crap.
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I'll just keep it at "it sucks" :)
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i disagree, cod2 s&d is fucking awesome
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Haven't tried that but I have to agree on cod2 being better than cod4.
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wahahah wp :D
seriously lauren, NEVER ask me again to play cod4. this game truely sucks
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heyheyhey we messaged you replied! :DDD
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hah! it was you who made ronner sad! dont do it again its not nice.. =>
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i didnt make him sad, him suckzoring did :( i exec a wrong cfg and played with arrow keys but was fun :DDD
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heh.. nice =) i have cod4 too.. its fun but havent played it for an while
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u asked me to play
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yah I did cuz I was bored, but next time remind me not to play this piece of crap game again.
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Ronner has spoken.
Hahaha, it definitely gets a lot worse than COD4.

*edit* Can I have your CD key?
ET > CoD4 8-)
any fucking day of the week
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css is shittier

u have to aim on the nuts to make a headshot oO
yeah well I think they should make bani a fucking millionaire imo (considering the other 95% of the population are fucking idiots anyway) and consult him more often.
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u seem rly angry....sexii....hrrr

lolo
:D
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not angry, just disappointed in the gaming industry. The only good game around seems to be a free one. Go figure.
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lets trade...i give u et and u give me cod4

:>
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dont exagerate pls and dont be pathetic, there are enough good SP games on the market omfg
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sp games are boring.
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Did i say cod4 SP?
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Quotejust disappointed in the gaming industry. The only good game around seems to be a free one


so ur disappointed in the gaming industry but not in the SP games? a big part of the games dont even have a MP so how the hell can you be disappointed in the whole gaming industry??
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Very easy. I'm diappointed in the gaming industry for their lack of producing decent MP games. See how easy that was?
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easy answer $$$$
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who cares about sp
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yup its sucks
QuoteI've never seen such a stupid campy, prediction and lotto based game in my life.

Aside from ET of course.
dont ever compare ET with cod4, cuz you could not be more wrong.
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Grumly has a point though + all the cheaters
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He has an opinion, not a point. The camping and prediction (which is a different type of prediction than Cod4 players use) is in no way of the same level in ET as it is in Cod4.
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why do you think anyone here gives a crap? ronner doesnt play cod4? so do(dont) millions of other people. what else do you want? ET or QW? both either dead or just one giant failure. you will have to take what you get.
Quoteyou will have to take you you get.
?? make a point plz.
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there is no better game than CoD4 atm. lets hope for RTCW2 to be good. I dont like the CS-factor of CoD aswell but at last its a cool game and about to start its career. we do still have a chance to become part of it.
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"its a cool game and about to start its career"

X:
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Quotethere is no better game than CoD4 atm


image: EpicFailGoldMine001
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you got a tip for me then ?
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gimma ya key nigga!
broke-ass-nigger
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yay, then you can even make a <3Ronner out of <3sol xD
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that reminds me. Toss doesn't want <3name in nicks anymore.
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cod4 is shit cod2 is good p
and now.. im off to bed, not caring about cod4 anymore.. bb
the saddest thing is, that in a way, if you take the excess out of that statement, it's very much true :) It's not as black and white situation, but close.
Please, tell that to the cod4 scene.
there is one game that is just as shit as cod, thats bf2, retard shit game. Went to a pub for 5 min and that was it :P never tried after
CoD-games are good as singleplayers :) CS & ET <3
I love the people who say its Lotto, if its a lottery how come you can predict the winners? :D If you're bad at it, you're bad at it not because its lotto
omgod he hates you ronner! fight fight
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I love ronner, probably more than is legal :x
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I can flip a coin and the result is lotto, but that doesn't mean I can't predict it'll be heads 50% of the time.
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Doesnt apply here!
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Don't they play 14 rounds over 2 or 3 maps? My point is, and I'm hoping this is ronners point too, once you get into a firefight with someone the result is often unpredictable, it's only "probable" someone will win. Therein lies the randomness, and not to put words into ronners mouth, but it's apparent in CoD more than any other game.
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CoD4 takes a lot to adapt to, many who either dislike what they have to adapt or cannot adapt say its lotto, but despite the flurry of new players to CoD4 very quickly you could see who has skill and thus who you'd expect to win those firefights and who doesnt. The randomness comes because aiming in the game is really quite easy in comparisson to most other games and thus even shit teams/players have a chance which is why you often see quite tight scorelines...but still the same winners. Dignitas, Fnatic & MYM have won or come 2nd in almost every event they have attended for example. They play first to 13 on one map normally.
As for your firefight example, the idea is mainly not to get into a firefight in the same way you do in Quake/ET because as with CS each round your strategy is supposed to line you up so you always have man advantage in each situation.
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Yes yes, and bowling isn't random because the professional will always beat the casual player. But when not the same person wins twice in a group of my friends, we'll tend to agree that the winner is random.

You're talking about the game at it's peak as if that is of any consequence for the average player : ).
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The average player wouldnt play a 5on5 S&D mix found on quakenet with certain things disabled and such.

The average player plays random pubs and doesnt give a shit about movement and wont see campers, and to the average player CoD4 is game of the year.
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I should have been clearer: the average clan player.

I suppose really the point is that there may be a lack of lower tier skillsets in CoD that would otherwise serve to differentiate more clearly between a low skill and a low+ skill team.
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Well there are huge huge average clan players so it must be doing some right!

btw I thought the comment and superboys comment that got banned were fucking hilarious, i sent those to some of my friends :)
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Haha, shame they were against the rules : (. Still, it was a pretty hilarious thread.
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jup, that is the point I meant when I said lotto. The game is about knowing each route of the maps that your opponent will take and knowing how to choose your camp-spots carefully, and then once you get into a firefight it's rather unpredictable what the outcome is. Such a game is just shite to me.
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Hey toss, I'd love to see your opinion on the way I see it:

I was playing cod4 for like 3 months on publics and I have to say, the amount of noobs is incredible. In scrims on the other hand there are a lot more experienced players who have a fast reaction time.

But with playing scrims the fun aspect of the game totally vanishes imho.
What I enjoyed in ET and in cod4 publics was the fast pace, you could sprint behind a corner and get into a quick firefight, kill 2 or 3 guys, and sprint on to the next corner to have another fight. In scrims this whole fast pace concept is gone, since you need to be a sneaky pussy in order to stay alive.

You don't wanna make a sound to prevent nearby campers from raping you, so you gotta either crouch and move very slowly, with aiming from the hip, or zoom in while walking, which is again very slow, or both at the same time, even slower. So there you go, walking very very slowly to some corner, jumping into the next room and proning right away, since while jumping you are unhittable for a slight millisecond which gives you the advantage over a camping cunt.

Once you start firing, it's basically just predicting where the enemy will go to, since you have to zoom in to get a good accuracy, and while zoomed in and shooting the recoil and muzzle flash is so much that you can't see anything of the target you're shooting. It's purely about predicting which way the enemy will move from the moment you started shooting him. You probably learn to predict this in time, but do you really classify this as skill?

And talking about lotto, those "tactnades", what the hell is that? Both teams spawn, and throw nades over buildings or whatever, and with fingers crossed hoping they hit an enemy who is just so unlucky that he didn't wait 1 second longer before he continued rushing out of spawn. You can easily spend hours on your private server finding out where nades will hit when you throw them in a certain direction and altitude, and from there on it's just a little bit timing to figure out when to throw it so it hits a spawned enemy right in the face in case he rushed towards the point of impact. In my opinion, these nades are nothing less than luck and a lot of laming.

People also tend to define a skilled player as a person who is good in "timing". Apparently timing is waiting long enough behind a corner to rush into the next room until the camper inside that room turns his back towards him to check out some other entry point (or some similar situation). So it's supposed to be skilled to be incredibly lucky that a camper inside a room turns his back right on the same time you're rushing in? I mean, this isn't skill, it's lotto!

I hope to see your opinion on these points, I'd love to be able to appreciate this game in this mode a lot more but for now I simply can't compare it to the awesomeness of ET's gameplay.
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I dont disagree with you on CoD's public prowess, I myself only play it on pubs when I can find the CD! Because on pub's its really quick and easy to submerse yourself in the action and get some good fun.

As for tact nades, they are I guess 'you either love um or you hate um' type of thing, if you've been playing the whole cod series you sorta made that decision a few years ago but if you've just joined its kinda like, 'wtf you can throw a nade 5 miles' and they look quite odd, particularly for a game that pays alot of attention to realism.

The timing in CoD rounds, (1.45) means you've not got too much time to sit around and camp so it never gets too dull. If you really wanna see the worst of camping try playing it in console competition, the round times are 3 minutes and then you see the very worst of what you are talking about. However personally that 1.45 time to me is the perfect length for some strats without rushing (or just lots of rushing)

I dunno, you raise some good points but I would define it as skill yes - I think you have to practice to get good which makes it a skill.
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i never liked the gameplay and movement from any of the cod games
you should try to play some clanwars.. its fun imo =)
thats what i said.
cod2 > cod4 by a long way

cod4 is just a terrible terrible game and explains why fps esports is so fucked right now
You've gone from being an ET player, to a promode fanboy to then a starcraft fanboy and then followed the route into everything in esports sucks fanboy. You are walking a very predictable path :( It leads to the blind arrogance and negativity that are 90% of the esreality userbase which is killing itself.

Dont kill yourself. Find a ray of light
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his statement is still true.
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promode fanboy? what

starcraft I'm still on the edge about, on one hand I could hardcore it, and then hardcore SC2 and aim for being among the top British players, but its kind hard to get motivation for that

I'm not saying esports sucks, I'm saying the direction FPS gaming is going in sucks.

Round based systems are probably less lotto than stopwatch. If you fuck up once in a round in CoD2, you have fucked up that round only, if you fuckup once in ET, you can lose the whole map.

I'm against playing something "just because its new". Bullshit. CoD2 is better so why switch to CoD4.
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seriously... not in general about that journal but try to keep ur feelings cool...
i remember a rageegoquit of u some weeks ago... i remember the hirntotstory...

i thought u were different some years ago :D
ragequit? when was that and in what game?

the hirntot incident was just stupid. Random admins blocking exits all the time and then kick/ban ppl for pushing/shooting them.
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i ve read the forum discussion on hirntot and i totally agree with ur opinion... dont worry!
just to let u know, i have had almost the same discussion with the hirntot admin and i also got angry because of that uberstupid and lowbrained admin benny.
finally they also banned me from the hirntot servers...

and last but not least i also dislike cod4 although i tryed it :>

the ragequit was not long ago. i remember it was on supply and a mix :D
and u started flaming the opponents (they ve had a really dumb child with them) and finally quit...

i just said this cuz in the past weeks u dont seem to be the cool guy, that people know :>
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I tried Cod4 as well, a couple times, but it's simply not my game.

The ragequit was not really a ragequit then, it was probably me not wanting to play vs stupid flaming and globalchat spamming morons. I don't leave a server just because the opponent is better. I leave servers where people are obviously cheating and or acting very very stupid.
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I get the impression you suck at it
I do, but that doesn't mean I think the game and the way it's played doesn't suck
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Thats true, however the majority of ppl playing it don't think the same.

Maybe your just too used to ET after all these years?
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May very well be, but even if I hadn't played ET for the past couple years and just started playing games and came across cod4, I still wouldn't have liked it.
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cod4 owns. Ciaaao
Are you sure you dont want me to send you a wig ronner? =(
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Ok; I'm sorry Mr. Ronner, but!
Some players like COD4, some (like you) don't. Learn to live with it that you can't be all the time an hero :(
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That made no sense at all.
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Quake engine games are the only games that I could ever play online MP. Tried almost all popular 1st person shooters but only Quake engine is fast paced enough.
CoD4 is based on the Q3 engine ;)
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An modified version of it. You can modify a Ferrari engine to shit as well, just look at Force India in F1 :P
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I said the same after I tried CoD2 MP for 30min several months ago. Haven't even thought of playing again ever after :_)
i have to disagree whit you
cod4 is a good game, i though the same thing when i first started to play but after 2 days i started to liked it i even starting to make a short fragmovie HAHahaHAha, just play for a few days and u will notice the differences

ps. you are always welcome to play mixes whit Kapoks.cod4 ^^

Edit: maeby this will help you, how to be pro whit out being pro
no thx. It's the type of gaming I dislike. I don't like to quietly walk around sneaking out possible campspots or possible routes the opponent will take to eventually end in a firefight that a lot of the time has a random outcome.

It's simply not my game and I'll never play the MP again.
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yeah i know exactly what you mean i had same feeling but i got use to it but w/e your choice :)
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you got used to it. I bet if you stick a cork in your ass it will be discomforting at first but eventually you'll get used to it. Doesn't make it a good idea though. :P
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worth a try
COD4 is easy to learn but hard to master, that's why many people get frustrated quickly.
thats right and i like the s&d gameplay. but somehow my eyes start to hurt after a few minutes of playing. i ve tried many different configs of pro players but i cant get rid of that crappy color scheme. in some maps everything is just touched green in green (opponents and environment), in some maps its sandcolored...
somehow this stole the fun for me :>
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You are such a bitter old man, Ron :)

I was just at a net-café this weekend, doing an all night event with 9 other Danish CoD4 players. I must admit, I have not laughed that much since I started playing ET. I really enjoy the game and as teh mighty Clown just mentioned, people get frustrated because it is hard to master completely. I don't even master it completely yet, I learn new stuff everyday; which is actually something that stopped for me a couple of years ago in ET.
I'm glad you are having a good ole time again with Cod4, but it's simply not my type of game.
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