hz halp

can anyone more technically inclined with crt monitors tell me which values would be best to use

the possible ones really are;

120hz/125fps (current because im used to it from older monitor)
125hz/125fps
140hz/125fps

which one is technically the best and why

i feel like i should know this (or at least do some research and learn about it)

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the more hz you have, the better your eyes will be...
he doesn't care about his eyesight, he wants a theoretical 1% improvement in ET so that he can become the BEST PLAYER EVER
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im more just curious as to if 125/125 would disadvantage me in anyway, as players have told me "it's bad" but I've never had a real explanation

also, b_placebo \o/
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With 125/125 new frames will start to be drawn on some random place on your screen, which will result in what is known as tearing. You can describe it as some annoying jittering horizontal line on your screen. The only way to get rid of that is to use vertical-syncing (r_swapinterval 1) but for ET that is not recommended due to other side effects (perhaps someone else can explain why r_swapinterval 1 is bad on et again. I forgot)

I recon the best would be simply that what feels fine for you. Try both 140/125 and 120/125 and see which looks better in your eyes. You will not achieve an improvement in how you play or anything, it's just about what looks best to your eyes.
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swapinterval made my screen shaky in motion
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ty

utopia's explanation actually made a lot of sense too, think ill stick to 120/125
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so he prefer few years being good at et, and a whole life being blind :(?
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his best year(s) = bb
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nice overreacting skills.

I've been behind computers my entire life ever since I was 11. I'm 36 now so that's 25 years. I've been behind actual old-ass TV screens at a distance of maybe 50 cm for years in a row and guess what. My eyesight is perfect. 20/20 vision here mate.

So much for the "old TV-screens and lowHz Monitors will kill your eyes" theory.
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ppl react different...
one guy can smoke for his whole life and he wont catch anything and one guy can smoke one day and have cancer...
i have a friend who had perfect vision, and after watching tv lots of time rly rly close, he now need glasses.
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yes ofcourse, because it's scientifically proven that tv's and monitors ruin your eyes, right?
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yes, monitors send rays to your eyes+radiation

so i guess in your 36 years you live, you didnt learn anything :~>
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I'll quote you something that comes from the Department of Optometry and Vision Sciences of The University of Melbourne.

"...After three decades of extensive use of SBE [Screen-Based Equipment] in the workplace and several surveys of the ocular health of SBE users, including one six-year prospective survey, there is no credible evidence that they cause cataract or other eye disorders..."

Rays? Really?
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there is no credible evidence

i learned this thing, i dont even know how to say it in english
i want to talk about spectrum etc but i dont know how to explain myself :(
so go away from me :(

beside there are many many researches and many studies conduct about those stuff
what you gave doesnt prove anything
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Sure it does. It proves that in 30 or so years, following tons of people that are working extensively with tv's and monitors they have not found any eye-disorder that was caused by the use of tv's and monitors.
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i give you a challange
find a reaserch that support me
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I'll tell you what. Since you believe in it so much, YOU go find some scientific research that proves it does. You'll be amazed how little you will find.
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Then don't. But also don't just blur out words like "so he prefer few years being good at et, and a whole life being blind :(? " if you don't want to check out if it holds any truth to it.
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
when i said being blind i exaggerate since he either not going to be a good player xD
but it will dmg it and dont deny it !
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ur amount of retardness is really amazing
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i know you hate me so i wont read your reply
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u just did it xD
fail!
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im not going to read that too
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oh wow, u just prove the message of my first post again and again..
really amazing
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now post ur "i dont read that" again
ur just acting like a kid, omg
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you replying to someone who doesnt even read what you are writing...
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next time theres a "whos the biggest retard on cf" i`ll surely vote for u.
and ofc u read it, dont lie
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you keep replying to someone who dont even read your replies

god you are stupid :D
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Quotebut it will dmg it and dont deny it !


Well that's what this entire discussion was about wasn't it. I think it doesn't and apparently it's also the conclusion of a research done by experts on the topic. The only thing wrong here is that you blatantly believe that it damages your eyes but you have no facts to back it up, nor do you want to educate yourself by trying to find out if there is truth to what you so blatantly believe.
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I could easily give you many dutch websites and tell you it's about the Dutch having found the cure for aids and cancer. You wouldn't be able to tell me if I'm wrong since you don't know dutch.

Just as much as I don't speak hebrew.
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now you evade
go find someone to transalte it for you
i will do the same with the dutch website :~>

yuuu de manne
kanker noob
jij bent een aap !

anyway i gave you a reaserch that im right
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No, you gave me something of which you knew I wouldn't understand. I'm sure you are able to find something in English.
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just ask someone :(
i cant translate it...

i dont even know what to write in english :o
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I'm not going to find someone that understands hebrew and english to a level where he or she could translate that page for me. Because of these simple matters:

1. It looks more like a blog / newssite than a trustable source of scientific information.
2. I don't need to be convinced that Tv's and Monitors are not bad for your eyes.
3. You are too lazy to proof your own point by directing me to an english research that has facts and or a conclusion where it says that Tv's and Monitors are in fact dangerous for your eyes.

If you really think it's bad for your eyes and you can find me some english or dutch scientific information about it, I'd be more than happy to read it.
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sol said something about dont assume...
so dont, its not a blog
you asked for proofs for research, i gave you

i dont care anymore :~>
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Like a random jewish website is scientifical evidence. In case you didn't know, radiance is almost everywhere on this world (wifi, radio, gprs, satellite for example). In other words, if you are right... the chance you die, because of CANCER is incredibly high. Most things in life aren't unhealthy in my opinion till a certain degree. For example if I smoke once every two weeks, the chance I die from cancer is nihil. If these types of radiance will kill, can imo only be proven in the future.
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israeli website*

do i sense contempt?

anyway my point is that it will hurt you
how bad? it depends in many factors...
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Quoteanyway my point is that it will hurt you


What do you base this on? What scientific or medical article or research-report have you read that states that it will hurt your eyes?
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i gave you an experts opinions+research :~>
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What's wrong with jewish website? If I pointed you to a .NL website, you'd call it a Dutch website as well, right? You would not see us correct you with "ahum do I smell contempt? It's a hollandic website"

Is it not true that jews live in israel? Or do you think jew is a bad word?
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i would not mind a dutch website,
i would take a dutchi to translate :D
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plz just ban him....
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for what? being a retard? I could ban 75% of CF easily imo if we were to ban for retardation.
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the first to curse=the other wins !

accourding to sol
and you know how smart is sol...
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FYI, sol isn't the smartest guy nor the dumbest and 2nd FYI, I didn't call you a retard. I asked him why I should ban you and I asumed he wanted me to give you a ban because HE thinks you are a retard. So no, I didn't curse. I also don't think you are a retard cuz I can't possibly know if you are.
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but you dont realy prove anything with ur statements either.
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he based his proof about some 30+ years old reaserch :~<
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Eeehmm no. The research followed people that have been working with tv's and monitors extensively for 30 years. It was not DONE 30 years ago.
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yes with 30 years old knowlage

if you are so interested in this, since im not
go search for more more reaserch about it, from better sources
and give me the answer :D
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Quoteyes with 30 years old knowlage


*sigh*.. please read again.
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maybe explain the whole reaserch...
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still if he (according to u) is wrong, that doesnt proof u are right...
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well give me an answer in the middle then :D
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125/125 i guess
140/125. I would love to have that. but depends also @ resolution. if u are using like r_mode 4 with that then I would use 120/125 & bigger resolution.
buy TFT and use 75hz so you dont have to worry about it
with analog cable i could have 75 hz
with dvi (digital) cable i can only have 60 hz :<
to have 75 i need to lower reso :O
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120hz/125fps bestest for sync. you loose only 5fps
125hz/125fps tearing on the q3 enfine, r_swapinterval 1 makes lag delay - don't use it on q3 games
140hz/125fps some frames rendered are showed twice, some aren't = it doesn't feel smooth. 140hz/143fps should be better (1000/7) but impossible with shitty cb config


120Hz/125FPS wins!
technically.
more hz the better tbh.
Wanted to create a monitor-journal, but you already did.
So, Samsung SyncMaster 2232BW for 189€, is it worth it?
(Some minimal scratches on the surface)
lol fucking yes its worth it
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The more the merrier!
so are we going to have a third baby? :D
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3rd and 4th* :D

twins!
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boys or girls? :D
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girls =(

can't send them to army ffs
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girls also do army in israel :x
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they do aswell in ger but hey...u don't want to send our beloved girlies to army :x
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in reality they dont rly fight :)
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better make 2 sluts out of them, so they look nice + earn money :)
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i dont want our kids do their parents's mistakes :~<
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im proud of it ! :u
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your city looks like Karkand from Battlefield 2


:D:D:DD:D:D:DD:D:D:D
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60hz/125fps is rly the best. not :'(
based on my testings if i remember correctly 120/125 and 125/125 look almost the same 140/125 makes crosshair movement "weird" so i would just stick to 120/125
i use 125/125
lmao@"discussion" above

xfire never seize to amaze
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