New Anti-Cheat Method?
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7 Aug 2008, 14:16
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The largest and most annoying problem are the cheaters, everyone knows that. Also something more annoying then that is that PBBans have registered around 40,000 bans, but seriously, who thinks they have decreased the amount of cheaters?
So my idea is, using the help of Crossfire/CB mainly:
Bringing back the old system Crossfire Public / Telenet used. Register your pbguid with Crossfire, which will then make it easier to see vs who your are playing. Also... people who get pbbanned / banned from CB shoudn't be allowed to play on these servers, remember we want these servers to be clean as possible, so how can we stop them from doing this? ETpro guid sucks balls, PBGuid is not bad, but it can be changed manually...
so basically, anyone with new pbguids cannot play on these servers (this is in the new rule of CB, ppl with pbguid's not older than 3/4 weeks cannot play, to stop this pbguid laming)
or else, but it will be somewhat difficult maybe? ET-ACE (which will be 100times stronger than anti3) will have all these features in it which can also read the MAC-ADDRESS of each player, i'm sure 90% of the players don't have any idea about how to change their MAC-Address, so hopefully banning the MAC will be as good as hardware bans.
Yes i know you can change your MAC Address, but remember once you will register it with crossfire, you cannot change it until you give valid proof for as to change it. (so cheaters cannot use the "restart" "format" "new hd" "hdd crash" "new pc" excuse for nothing)
So for one to play on these server, the new etpro/a-c will have to check if your
- pbguid
- etpro guid
? mac address?
will match with your profile. if they don't, cheater can have fun looking at the "Connection Refused Screen"
So my idea is, using the help of Crossfire/CB mainly:
Bringing back the old system Crossfire Public / Telenet used. Register your pbguid with Crossfire, which will then make it easier to see vs who your are playing. Also... people who get pbbanned / banned from CB shoudn't be allowed to play on these servers, remember we want these servers to be clean as possible, so how can we stop them from doing this? ETpro guid sucks balls, PBGuid is not bad, but it can be changed manually...
so basically, anyone with new pbguids cannot play on these servers (this is in the new rule of CB, ppl with pbguid's not older than 3/4 weeks cannot play, to stop this pbguid laming)
or else, but it will be somewhat difficult maybe? ET-ACE (which will be 100times stronger than anti3) will have all these features in it which can also read the MAC-ADDRESS of each player, i'm sure 90% of the players don't have any idea about how to change their MAC-Address, so hopefully banning the MAC will be as good as hardware bans.
Yes i know you can change your MAC Address, but remember once you will register it with crossfire, you cannot change it until you give valid proof for as to change it. (so cheaters cannot use the "restart" "format" "new hd" "hdd crash" "new pc" excuse for nothing)
So for one to play on these server, the new etpro/a-c will have to check if your
- pbguid
- etpro guid
? mac address?
will match with your profile. if they don't, cheater can have fun looking at the "Connection Refused Screen"
but
http://www.google.pl/search?hl=eng&q=how+to+change+MAC-Address&btnG=Szukaj+w+Google&lr=
btw thanks for trying to save et!!11
"restart"
"format"
so once you register you mac adress, you cannot change it (unless you join a new isp??)
50 secs of searching :D
This utility will spoof your hard drive information in order to prevent the
control freaks of EvenBalance from enforcing their stupid hardware bans. PB
may also ban you by the MAC address of your network interface card, in which
case all you need to do is find one of the many MAC address spoofers.
so mac adresses plan is dead
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!!?!?
People like you should not be allowed to make any decisions about things like this because your technical knowledge is not just below average, it's fucking disgraceful. You never know what you're talking about with regards to things like this, and you just proved it once again.
Even simple programs like hamachi, have been known to fuck with your mac address. Not to mention there are many valid reasons for changing/spoofing when dealing with certain solutions/programs.
Basically what you are suggesting here is that you want to force everyone that plays ET to not be able to modify their software and hardware in ways that are perfectly legit, which is fucking ridiculous and I, and the rest of the educated crossfire community will never support it.
The only good idea is the crossfire-pbguid system (used with a program similar to yawn) which may be too much effort. But also, going so far as to force servers to use it, that's ridiculous too.
You are arguing that if somebody changes their mac address for a perfectly legitimate reason, or a program like hamachi changes it for them, that they should be brandished a cheater? Well fuck you.
btw u can use only A-F and 0-9
At mine it doesn´t work.
kthxbye :)
nuub! and u dont know me? im blonde long curly hair :D
im sure i've seen u somewhere
lul its raining
not everybodys like u pls...
IP-spoofing is not that easy...
I stopped reading there.
I stopped reading there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRK-CQVQevQ
I mean for example if you maybe format your harddrive that the mac address changes automatically.
Anyway some ideas:
about intel anti cheat system
And I for one wouldn't want to give up so many shit which is supposed to be private to some extent to someone else just to play a game of ET, it's like giving a hacker the IP to your computer and close down your firewall so he can go straight ahead
new hub/Switch
new network-card
new wirless lan card
but i think that was only some bug.
Mac-adress changing isn´t hard.. 5 mins to google and around 5 clicks (download,extract,run it,click on "change", close the programm). but if ppl need to register it with corssfire & stuff it would be rly nice.
btw: cb sucks, esl too ! maybe some totally new page comming out soon :o and maybe there is a way to add some features to support your idea. pm me then
i also tried to find out some ways to stop cheaters and multis. anaconda and me had some rly nice ideas for the new league.. methods which aren´t rly used anywhere else and are very effective.
edit: what are these methods you discussed with anaconda?
its liek telling nc: hello we gonna secure our defense with that methode.. u got 1 month or so until the project is finished so already start bypass it !
Well ET is a game i like and thats also why i try to support it by getting a new league/cup which supports ET and isn´t bullshit like ESL & CB (thats what 90% of the community says). As i also want to stop hackers that league got alot of methods to stop them. And if u want you can talk to anaconda. he is one of the main coders. He got some methode to stop proxys or get the real ip-adress (even suport über lvl 5 ELite proxys dont work :o )
So if i or we (anaconda,eicher,h3ll,sil,beAsty so far) can be sure u won´t publish that method somewhere and tell around how it works we could propably also help you. But if we do that i think its the only one method we gonna tell others so far.
if someone uses a proxy its getting dedected & admin get warned. and i also know the real ip
well its mainly jsut a "addon" to other methods to prevent multis (= hackers which regiser again after the got busted)
lol you gonna have people scan in their receipts?
and about switching.. well there could be some "contract" with admins that he often siwtches pc.. and as los the player isn´t suspicious there isn´t a real prob.
they are unique, if they are not spoofed...
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
BAN
edit: so anyone who leaks you his nC account to use a bot/test = fail
Theres google. And meez.
lifetime ban
i have got a new pc at home, it arrived today. (sitting at work, cant wait to get home <.<)
so this means i cant play cb for the next 4 weeks? or am i allowed to play, if i copy my etkey (what i would do so or so)?
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i like the idea in general with this XF<->CB<->Server thing, but you cant force the people to register here for playing in league? :o
and maybe you can register your pbguid on CB soon, like on xfire
but better would be to let people upload their etkey file and add a md5 check to compare them. if fiel isn't the same player get kicked with msg "register correct pbguid".
smth like that would be nice, an dif you saved the file at clanbase they can make it downlaodable so if you have a new PB you don't have to remember to back-up etkey.
Just think about it..if its all the work good for it
so wtf....
(im clean and not cheating)
or save it were your config is? make sure you make a password for the etkey
just make something like anti3
basically use the old crossfire pbguid system that is linked to accounts here but instead of pasting in your pbguid you would have to pay to get assigned a key.