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10 Aug 2008, 23:24
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The Russian - Georgian war...
For everyone who has been living under a rock the past three days:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/08/09/manyon.georgia.war.itn
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/10/georgia.russia/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
To be honost I think Russia has really gone too far now. They attack Georgia as an indepented democratic nation. I'm afraid it's already too late for Georgia. But what I'm more afraid of, is the UN interfering with this conflict.
Georgia was nearly part of the EU, but they still needed to be an organised country, which isn't their current state with this war. Still, they are allied with America (because of being a sovereign country), and nearly allied to the EU. That's why I think both these nations will choose Georgia's side, rather than Russia's side. Although I clearly agree with that alliance, it makes me afraid that this whole situation can escalate a possible WWIII, certanly with the russian-chinese agreement to combine forces in the development of a superior nuclear program, being developed in China.
Although I doubt that these world-leaders would be so ignorant and blatantly retarded to initiate a WWIII, we've seen them do similar stupid things before.
/care mode
For everyone who has been living under a rock the past three days:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/08/09/manyon.georgia.war.itn
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/10/georgia.russia/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
To be honost I think Russia has really gone too far now. They attack Georgia as an indepented democratic nation. I'm afraid it's already too late for Georgia. But what I'm more afraid of, is the UN interfering with this conflict.
Georgia was nearly part of the EU, but they still needed to be an organised country, which isn't their current state with this war. Still, they are allied with America (because of being a sovereign country), and nearly allied to the EU. That's why I think both these nations will choose Georgia's side, rather than Russia's side. Although I clearly agree with that alliance, it makes me afraid that this whole situation can escalate a possible WWIII, certanly with the russian-chinese agreement to combine forces in the development of a superior nuclear program, being developed in China.
Although I doubt that these world-leaders would be so ignorant and blatantly retarded to initiate a WWIII, we've seen them do similar stupid things before.
/care mode
South ossetia sees itself as an idependant nation
Also Russia is attacking lots of other non-military, civilian targets, resulting in the country being weak as a democracy, because of the loss of independant facilities (yap, there you have your weak point in democracy ^^). If they would only be there to "defend" Ossetia then they would have left the rest of Georgia alone, but no, they keep progressing further into Ossetia.
And another thing, even if Russia would be right, it wouldn't change the fact that they have the entire UN against them now, which could still escalate into a conflict, which is what I'm really afraid of.
but yes im really afraid of an escalation.
read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor
"A particularly obvious example involves the Olympics, which Titor claimed "As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004."[16] The uneventful staging of the 2006 Winter Olympics refutes this claim; however, there are arguments as to whether or not Titor was referring exclusively to the Summer Olympics."
"The independence has not been diplomatically recognized by any member of the United Nations – which continues to regard South Ossetia as part of Georgia." Russia is part of UN.
Its easy to join the side of the USA if you read CNN, though you might want to read some different sources. Russia is doing what the USA has done in the recent past as well.
Don't know exactly how to explain in English but I saw this example in my economics course last year.
there wont be any help from eu or usa
gtfo with wikipedia,news ftw
No one will do anything, russia will occupy georgia and the baltic states, world war 3, etc
"(00:35:56) —› mode: (Q) sets mode (+o rY`shoes)"
3v3 world war config v3.0 so no mines, no riffles and no atomic bombs.
Also, there is no way there'll be an escalation.
Also, what is so good about Russia showing similar mentality that it showed during it's Soviet era? After all, Georgia is a sovereign country, and invading sovereign country isn't really something anyone would wish them to do except the 70 000 or so "Russians" in South Ossetia.
Still, as it is unclear how the events exactly went, it's impossible to get a clear picture of the situation.
Afaik, and as the news has reported - Georgia started with the attack on Ossesia while injuring Russian citizens.
Also, you can't justify your means just based on what someone else has done. So essentially you accepting Iraq and Georgia invasions? Since, if you compare them, Russia would be the invader.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:UgWOgw-udKEJ:answers.yahoo.com/question/index%3Fqid%3D20080808091149AA3VGTk+[url]http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index%3Fqid%3D20080808091149AA3VGTk&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us[/url]
3v3 world war config so no mines, no riffles and no atomic bombs. " or "tbh it would be great if we could request this match @ GTV and place bets ! "
are retards.
i hope your army sends you to the next war and you lose a leg, an arm or smth. I wonder whether you guys will find then war as funny as you find it now
but russia will win !
FUCK RUSSIA
Now seriously, I don't think this will escalate into a new world war or so.
But then again, I don't really know anything about politics and stuff like that, so I don't know what I'm doing here
Which is nice :)
your english is truly a shame
and you want to be a swabian...
and i find the whole thing about south ossetia trying to become independent a bit stupid, i know they want their own country and stuff but if every bigger group in a country would do the same thing there would be 50% more countries
Stop crying admin abuse at every half an oppurtunity you see.
Only, I didn't think it was gonna be Hellgoat.
Then again, I completely agree. This topic is rubbish and doesn't belong here.
By doing such reply, you only show that you personally are incapable of having a decent discussion here.
Atleast there's some real conversation in this journal
Stalin would know how to deal with this mess they're in right now :{
However don't expect a mass of intelligent answers as the average age of the community is probably 15 with the mental age of 10.
But you will get some good answers.
I for one, don't know enough about the situation to make any sort of comment about it. So i wont.
Don't know if its accurate but I read on BBC.co.uk that Russia was acting as a peace maker and that Georgia used a peace meeting between the two sides to launch a surprise attack.
Attacking under a flag of peace is almost as low as you can get.
Cause I really thought It'd be self evident
EDIT
Ah nvm pela just explained the situation and the only thing is ofc double standards
its ok if US or UK ofc thats us! but if someone else does it its bad!
So this situation is really complicated but blaming Georgia is wrong. Russians have their interests in that region, similar events took place in Tsetchen.
Looking at it it seems the only way for a peacefull outcome is the autonomy of SO, I don't think Russia will simply pull out of SO to allow the Georgians back in, and if SO is as unstable and poor as you say wouldn't it be easier for Georgia to let it go?
HEIL
8-)