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go go go

no no no baby no no no don't lie!!

yes, give it to me :d

pretty fly for a jew guy :)

Parent

i dont understand your sentence :~<
anyway i bought a new computer few days ago :D
not good as yours but it setisfy =D

Parent

omg ... where are you from?? israel??

lyric of song you've just quote

Give it to me baby, uh huh, uh huh
Give it to me baby, uh huh, uh huh
Give it to me baby, uh huh, uh huh
And all the girlies say I'm pretty fly for a white guy
Uno dos tres cuatro cinco cinco seís

got it now? :<

Parent

plz give me the drugs you have been smoken :D

Parent

:XD ok but i dont accept stones for payment :D (excuse that)

Parent

dont worry, i will pay with camals

Parent

Drugs are exchanged with camels ... wow ... thats new ... i thuoght camels where only used for buying women ...

Parent

dis iz how we do it in the west side

Parent

:~*

Parent

Too hillbilly to know The Offspring

Parent

i think ddr3 would be better

There is hardly a performance increase ... i checked that allready.

Parent

DDR3 is too expensive for the defrent betwin DDR2/3..
he better put his money on other parts

Parent

well, take the money from cpu, there is no matter how good cpu u have when u have shitty rams, rams are basically 1st thing to look when u start building your own pc and i would rather take very high end rams and a bit shittier cpu/gpu

Parent

Well, i hope your kidding

Parent

and why do u think that?
do u know anything about computers and how they work? i mean how ram and cpu work together and how they are related to each other and that u can never use cpu's full power because rams cant give enough info to cpu that cpu could actually work with

Parent

..

if the RAM was limiting so
1. E8400 and E8600 will give the same resluts, becuse there max performance will be blocked anyway no?

2. People that understand better then you + me together would advice about DDR3, but as you can see, noone use it.

maybe better ram will give a better performance, but the other parts are more importants..

btw, the Hard Drive is making the PC slower..

Parent

I've been through many benchmark tests and there is rly no difference ... but i also know there isnt only benchmarks ;)

do you know what kinda improval you have with ddr 3?

Parent

shitty rams ?:DD:D:D:D:D

Parent

you're saying OCZ are shit?

aynway, DDR3 is too expensive fot the tiny improvement in performance that it gives atm, DDR3 will probably be put into better use when nehalems come, now DDR2 is a better option

Parent

am i?
imo i was talking there of overall and did i mention anything about OCZ

Parent

why would you speak general, I don't get it, you said DDR3 would be better and you got the response that it wouldn't, then you start talking about shitty RAM for no reason because the guy who intends to buy this is buying OCZ which is kinda good, so what's the point in that speech :/

look for yourself:

Quotethere is no matter how good cpu u have when u have shitty rams....and i would rather take very high end rams and a bit shittier cpu/gpu

he isn't buying shit RAM so all this is kind of redundant

Parent

no.

Parent

I think DDR3, 2x HD4870 X2, 1000W PSU, X48 mobo, QX9770 would be better..

doubt that

Parent

i would take a better Supply power..
take E8400, put the money in other parts..
put some LAN Party mainboard..
take pioneer DVD
and the CPU Cooler is not nessecery unless you want to OC it
i also would pick an Western Digital 320GB hd
thats it i guess :P

y E8400?
and better supply = more power or better brand?

Parent

about the power supply, hmm maybe Crosshair 550 vx will be good here

about the CPU, the E8400 is enought for this PC, put the money in other parts, but thats your option.. watch benchmarks.. its about 2790 vs 2930 @ 3dMark 06

Parent

ah ok. do you know if it is also silent?
and what do you think about maybe Q6600 ?

Parent

Q6600 is a peace of crap.. if u want a Q CPU so check the Q9450, Q9400 or Q9300..

but i wouldnt take a Quad cpu..

Parent

yep thats what i heard too. so i stay with E8400/E8600 ...

Parent

E8600? thought 8500 is your max.. :P

btw i dont know how it is outside of Isreal, but in our PC shops, we can like "build PC online".
there is any site like this where ever you live? i think that u can get HD4870x2 for that money :d

Parent

eauh E8500 (fucking numbers)

What does the x2 imrove?

Parent

2 GPU's

Parent

:D ok

the x2 is like 2 PC like you putted on your PC, but together, like 1 GPU..

the best graphic card atm

Parent

ah ok ... but it is 400 euro in my onlineshop :<

Parent

Oh thats bad.. leave it :<

Parent

ROFLOLOLLLOL
why the fuck u take E instead of Q??!?%?%?%

E8400 is the best gamers option for his money atm

Parent

Update

CPU COOLER: Coolermaster Hyper 212, alle Sockel: 25,74 €

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Tray 6144Kb, LGA775, 64bit: 142,45 € only 15 euros expensiver than E8400 so i took this

GPU: Sapphire HD4870 512M GDDR5 PCI-E: 216,00 €

DVD: Samsung SH-223F Retail: 30,09 €

RAM: 4096MB-Kit OCZ PC2-8500 Platinum, CL5: 75,63 €

SUPPLY: ATX-Netzteil Corsair TX650W 650 Watt: 71,28 €

HDD: WD Caviar 640GB, SATA II, WD6400AAKS: 61,72 €

MAINBOARD: ASUS P5Q-E, Sockel 775 Intel P45, ATX: 119,18 €

better?

Parent

I know ... but RAM isnt that expensive ... is 2 GB enough for gaming etc with XP?

2 GB will be enought, but 4 will be better.. stick with the 4

Parent

are you using 32-bit or 64-bit XP?

Parent

64 bit

Parent

btw who is paying for that computer? :D

Me ofc:

Im workind during night for 4 weeks from 22.00 to 6.00.
Normal holiday workers gain 14,40€/h but night shift means +65% which are 23,76€ (I hope i calculated correctly :X)

23,76€/h * 8 = 190,08€ Per Day
I work ecaxtly 20 regular days
190,08€ * 20 = 3801,6€

as if this wouldnt be enough i worked on some saturdays and at the end of the month every division gets special premiums. so expect about 4200€ for 4 weeks. and ofc as i am a student i dont have to pay taxes ;)

in your face! :D

Parent

not rly, you have to pay taxes even as student.. 40-50% because I bet you're not married etc.

Parent

Yep ofc i have to. but i get it back by the end of the year.

Parent

lies from a german

Parent

wanna see my paycheck? oO

Parent

you mean fake paycheck

Parent

no seriously ... why do you think it is a lie? ^^

Parent

cuz thats a lot than the average salary
there are ppl who work more than 20 years and they dont earn as much as you earn...

Parent

lol! this is holidaywork. and 14,40 per hour is much but not THAT much.^^ and i can only do it one time a year. otherwise i would have to pay taxes too.

Parent

CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen, Thermaltake IFX-14 or, my favourite, Noctua NH-U12P. Dont forget to buy corresponding mounting kits (~3€) to avoid the feckin push-pins. Zalman was good years ago but nowadays others are state-of-the-art.

HD: WD32000AAKS or WD64000AAKS

MB: No need for deluxe, P5Q or P5QE is ok.

Supply: Enermax Modu+82 425 or maybe 525

Didnt find the supply you proposed ... what do you think about this one?

ATX-Netzteil Corsair TX650W 650 Watt

Parent

Update

CPU COOLER: Coolermaster Hyper 212, alle Sockel: 25,74 €

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Tray 6144Kb, LGA775, 64bit: 142,45 € only 15 euros expensiver than E8400 so i took this

GPU: Sapphire HD4870 512M GDDR5 PCI-E: 216,00 €

DVD: Samsung SH-223F Retail: 30,09 €

RAM: 4096MB-Kit OCZ PC2-8500 Platinum, CL5: 75,63 €

SUPPLY: ATX-Netzteil Corsair TX650W 650 Watt: 71,28 €

HDD: WD Caviar 640GB, SATA II, WD6400AAKS: 61,72 €

MAINBOARD: ASUS P5Q-E, Sockel 775 Intel P45, ATX: 119,18 €

better?

Parent

DAMNIT!!!! WHY THE HELL IS NO ONE TELLING ME IT IS 1 O'CLOCK!!!!!!! FUCK IT FUCK IT FUCK IT!!!

thx for help

dude, don't get a new pc now, wait for intel nehalem. so that the prices are gonna drop!

Parent

wait until mid/end 2009? nice advice ^^

Parent

btw, best buy cpu cooler now is
cooler master hyper 212

Is that samsung hdd a spinpoint F1? if not, go for that one ^^
+ I would go for a better psu, zalman 500/600W or smth

Update

CPU COOLER: Coolermaster Hyper 212, alle Sockel: 25,74 €

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Tray 6144Kb, LGA775, 64bit: 142,45 € only 15 euros expensiver than E8400 so i took this

GPU: Sapphire HD4870 512M GDDR5 PCI-E: 216,00 €

DVD: Samsung SH-223F Retail: 30,09 €

RAM: 4096MB-Kit OCZ PC2-8500 Platinum, CL5: 75,63 €

SUPPLY: ATX-Netzteil Corsair TX650W 650 Watt: 71,28 €

HDD: WD Caviar 640GB, SATA II, WD6400AAKS: 61,72 €

MAINBOARD: ASUS P5Q-E, Sockel 775 Intel P45, ATX: 119,18 €

better?

Parent

arctic cooler pro 7 = cheaper and regarded as one of the best.

need a better power supply

That great.. ye

personaly, i would take 2 320GB harddrives instead of 1 620GB if possible
and the Pioneer DVD, i knew its less popular but its better

Parent

go for E8400 and overclock it + a better PSU

Update

CPU COOLER: Coolermaster Hyper 212, alle Sockel: 25,74 €

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Tray 6144Kb, LGA775, 64bit: 142,45 € only 15 euros expensiver than E8400 so i took this

GPU: Sapphire HD4870 512M GDDR5 PCI-E: 216,00 €

DVD: Samsung SH-223F Retail: 30,09 €

RAM: 4096MB-Kit OCZ PC2-8500 Platinum, CL5: 75,63 €

SUPPLY: ATX-Netzteil Corsair TX650W 650 Watt: 71,28 €

HDD: WD Caviar 640GB, SATA II, WD6400AAKS: 61,72 €

MAINBOARD: ASUS P5Q-E, Sockel 775 Intel P45, ATX: 119,18 €

better?

Parent

yes PSU is alot better, but why don't you buy a boxed CPU? stock cooler is enough if you don't want to overclock, or just a little.

Parent

dunno .. thought the standard cooler sucks ... the strange thing is, the box is even cheaper then the one i chose ...

Parent

stock cooler is enough for stock speeds, otherwise they won't give you that cooler with it.

Parent

buy xbox

or ps3

Parent

or wii

Parent

Cool thing ... but no :)

Parent

NO

Parent

Consider about getting one

Parent

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