Dump Punkbuster

With the release of AntiPro in a few weeks, is it time to give PunkBuster a rest?

AntiPro

-Pros
People do not get kicked for stupid kik_aim and shit commands
People do not get kicked for having a moviemaker program in their folders
People get Busted for cheating during that war and not "omg i tested a cheat on non pb server and forgot to delete the files"
Motivated team which actually detects cheats without bugs
No Monster eating fps
No HardCore PBss
No lag

-Cons
Still new(?)

Mention other pros/cons of antipro/pb and i will write them up here
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Make a poll:
Yes, Dump PunkBuster & use AntiPro instead
No, Use PunkBuster
No, Use PunkBuster with AntiPro (which will still cause the same problems since they do not wish to fix the bugs)
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Yes, Dump PunkBuster & use AntiPro instead
People get Busted for cheating during that war and not "omg i tested a cheat on non pb server and forgot to delete the files" how does it decide such things?

People do not get kicked for stupid kik_aim and shit commands
AntiPro doesn't scan your pc/etmain folder to look for cheats. It checks whether you are cheating during that war, i cannot tell but i'm sure chaplja told some people how it works.
Parent
im very curious how it detects that o0
Parent
secret of this art ; D
Parent
Chaplja will reply to you when he's online. I don't know if he will tell though
Parent
maybe scans if u used a programm together with your ET or so :P
Parent
its isnt rly much of a choose
none will prefer punk buster over what you said
we will need to see for ourself if its good in real :~>
agree
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Yes, Dump PunkBuster & use AntiPro instead
Yes, Dump PunkBuster & use AntiPro instead
Yes, Dump PunkBuster & use AntiPro instead
Bye to punkbuster. Hi to antipro and some lightweight screenshot program(for rivatunererers).
then you will play et? =(
Parent
both together = double power!
create an AntiPro cup and "live" test it/let everyone see it in action.
agree with this guy, test AntiPro in some showcase matches before oc/ec starts ^^
Parent
bb pb welcome antipro
"People do not get kicked for stupid kik_aim and shit commands"

They don't get kicked for that by PB either, unless the server has some "stupid" config.
What i meant is that I don't think antipro is scanning for cheat cvars atm since all of these command are hidden by the cheat coder and when pb scans the files, these cheat commands are hidden.
Parent
AntiPro lacking a feature can hardly be seen as an advantage though.
Parent
Lacking a feature which scans your whole PC and causes your PC to lose FPS and adds to your Ping is an advantage, and as i already said, ppl who actually cheat don't get caught for private cvars, the clean ppl who don't have the cheat will get kicked for cvars, cos the cheat won't protect it, and thus you will get kicked by pb.

but why do you need cvar scans when you have antipro which is checking if you are cheating or not? Thats like 90% less lag and fps and you actually get busted for cheating in that war and not last month.
Parent
Why not just turn the feature off in the server config then if it's not detecting cheats anymore? If it causes all the problems you state and has no advantage then clearly the people responsible for the config are the stupid ones.

And the CVAR scan doesn't scan your whole PC by the way...

"but why do you need cvar scans when you have antipro which is checking if you are cheating or not? Thats like 90% less lag and fps and you actually get busted for cheating in that war and not last month."
You have a lot of faith in this software that most of us haven't even seen and that's completely unproven on a large scale (or even finished!). I do hope you're right, but this is all just hype right now. :P
Parent
stupid = pbbans and pbs streaming => their shitty configs
Parent
antipro sounds shit, eventho it perfectly describes the highskilled et-scene :D
...and everything below it

cu@PB
Parent
we shall see
Make a column about it, and make some good suggestion & explanation.
but like clown said Hi to antipro and some lightweight screenshot program(for rivatunererers).

+1
its a shame that i need to say that... but i have to agree with laziwho :P
Parent
it is time for pb to gtfo, bring in AntiPro
It's time to say goodbye PB
Yes, Dump PunkBuster & use AntiPro instead
first release antipro and then we can decide if we use both or just antipro.
i dont care i dont have lags xD
you should now best
People do not get kicked for stupid kik_aim and shit commands

ehh, people don't get kicked of cheat cvars now ?
Chaplja+quad/AntiPro do not care if you have cheated in the past they care about if you are cheating NOW. Who needs to get kicked for a cvar when you will get kicked for cheating?
Parent
so how do they know who's cheating
Parent
it's good to have such information about this product that we are about to use
Parent
Let them first release the mod so we can test it!

We can say it's going tow ork now, but maybe some nolifer @ nC is going to work his way around it in 2 weeks or smth. We need to see how low it takes them to get around each update. Then if the updates are supplied fast enough we can change to AntiPro and drop PB.
Yes, Dump PunkBuster & use AntiPro instead
Yes, Dump PunkBuster & use AntiPro instead
Yes, Dump PunkBuster & use AntiPro instead
Yes, Dump PunkBuster & use AntiPro instead
No, Use PunkBuster
Yes, Dump AntiBuster & use PunkPro instead
Fuck dem PB screens!!
yes, dump it - use antipro
what about detecting of linux cheats?
chaplja is the coder of the linux cheat. its obvious that he knows how to detect his own hack.
Parent
ET will survive!














not?
Love it how people are jumping into this AntiPro thing with two feet. For all you know it could be shit.

Live test it first, then decide.
hmm, you are going to tell me if its not finished yet? just believe what i am saying, if antipro was shit and fail i woudn't even talk about it, but i know thats its good and it will work.

So it seems like ESL will stay with PB? PB said they won't even arrange the bug, so have fun with innocent ppl getting banned. brb
He's keeping the et-scene on its toes 8)
only time will tell
PB really ruins gameplay on a bit older pc's. Even if I have a constant 125 fps without PB, I can't play with it enabled, cause of awful warps, lags and sick fps drops. If antipro is good I really hope the community will finally dump PB. I encourage anyone to try and play on a PB disabled server to feel the difference...
Yes, Dump PunkBuster & use AntiPro instead

i'd rly like to get away from that 40fps lagging-like-hell experience

No Monster eating fps
No HardCore PBss
No lag

hope this works
have you asked for chaplja's opinion?

AntiPro doesn't replace pb, it compliments it.

Is antipro better than IAC when etpro first released it? I'm doubtful, and that was still just a complimentary system.
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