Disposable at EC?

by Testi • 18 Sep 2008, 14:10 • Journals

Its just lame that clanbase dont let disposable play EC. They deserve it way more then accurate. They got players with a history, The got players who actually are highskilled.
First you unban slajdan, and then your official statement is to not let disposable play Ec because of cheat suspection. If we would ban every team in the whole OC or EC this season with some players who are suspicious of cheating, there wouldnt be much teams left in EC.

Fif got joof and vanqhuis(was banned)
accurate got Santj (he was even banned)
dnan got hayaa
jacks got maxuh and rat
desire (lol, almost their whole team got suspected)
overdose gaming got seb1
FF-xfi Also a lot of suspicious players, who sucked at lan, and own like hell now online.

Im not saying these guys are cheating or something, i only want 2 say that a lot of teams got so called ''suspicious'' players in the line up, and you let their teams play ec also.
I think that crajsor is right when he said that clownbase just dislike some players of disposable personally.

QuoteCrajsor:The fact you reject cause of your personal issuses with our team members is just silly, be fair for once.

im not arschlicking disposable, i only think clanbase isnt handling right here.
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CC5 pls

oh wait, you are not allowed to go? I wonder why. Where is Sol anyway?

im not disposable, so why shouldnt i be allowed to go?

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was referring to dispo ofc

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why you reply with ''you'' then.

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why isn't disposable allowed to go to CC5?

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ASK SOL

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since u know it you might as well answer? It's because CF is banning slajdan 'cause of their own value of evidence?

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We are allowed, but he dont allow slajdan

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he first has to go to lan to make you allow him to play ec, thats fucking ridiculous. can you hear yourself?

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Are you going?

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rat suspicious?

+acc got players that support cheaters (ovie playing with his bro?, destiny playing with koto and kmt? and others..)

and its strange.. FF got direct invite eventhough their "ec players" from last seasons are playing for auth : o)

i'll just post this for everyone because I see they all think overschie and ovie and stuff are playing with us and they don't.

sAntj
Morf
eager
destiny
dunz
SioN

ovrboost
kaz

this is our lu.

ovie is in desire overschie just plays some 3v3's and I don't know about destiny because I only know him for a couple of month's since I am in the team.

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quick tip for you , if u dotn wanna be removed in the future dont take overschie =))

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.... we won't

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well, you played pracs with overschie, why u wont?

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because overschie can't play on our times and we got already more than enough players. +and what if overschie was playing with us? He doesn't cheat orso. Hé's smoking ciggaretes on the toilet he's to cool to buy a bot

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how did he get banned again?

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by a detected public cheat

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Its this called "national equality" that one team from each big ET nation have to be picked, and FF got more name than auth

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thx, forgot about this nationality stuff...

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FF getting invited probably has a lot to do with weisiek and wrobel being on the team
and what Rk said about the name

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+1
they arent polish newschoolers
id put them instead of overdose

unban finkregh.

+1!

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hastn brazzers account?

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nee :[

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+1131424

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Guess what, we don't give a shit!

and still u post comments ......

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I agree with you Mister.

agree. lets make a poll :d

http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=poll&mode=item&id=375

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did i say we should make a poll bout slajdan is cheating or not? dont think so

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"does clanbase suck" (yes/no)

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afaik everyone already knows the answer for that question (=yes for the tardlets in here)

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fact
add destiny at accurate btw

:D:D:D:D:D:D:DD

Dude, even if its true as it is... CB wont make any changes or anything else. thats just the way how the act against swedish teams !

REALLY WHAT THE FUCK STOP THIS FUCKING SPAM OF DISPOSABLE EC EC EC.

TRY NEXT SEASON.

Well it is unreasonable why they won't let dispo play EC , and you gotta step up to those retarded admins because it could Happene maybe to your team or someone elses next season, and you wouldn't like it, would you?

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idd haya dirty dirty cheater

dnan got hayaa WoW, you suspect him of cheating? :DDD

Im not saying these guys are cheating or something, i only want 2 say that a lot of teams got so called ''suspicious'' players

no, i only say he is mister online only, never saw him on lan, and was suspicious for a lot of players.

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he never got a team for LAN. and him being suspicious... that is a joke right?

Edit: you are talking about hayaa & LAN, where were Alexl, slajdan and newbje @ LAN then?

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I didnt play ET then, alexL was banned i think, of if he wasn't i dont think he should be welcome since crossfire "double the bann-time, slajdan was in italy and is not welcome to next lan =)

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You didnt play ET during CPC 1, CPC 2 , CDC3 , CDC4 ?

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Nope, was inactive from 2006 to 2008, but if i remember right i think it was quakecon when i played ET serious but im not sure. I have never been intrested of go to any lan (cuz of inactivity ) expect this one but i kinda lose my motivation cuz of this SHIT EC so we will see.

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HE STARTED IN 2008 MAN!

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and why do you think I am suspious? there are alot more players that have been banned for public cheat and play at a highlevel ( not saying that I am high or smth cause I am not XD )

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:DDDDDDDDDDDDdddddddDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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:DDDDDDDDDDD

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:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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lets see, oh w8 who did dispo got again?

Alexl ( ex-cheater)
slajdan( unbanned wtf?)
Newbje ( haha can it get more suspicious then that? )

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domi, ask alexl about the demo :P he wasn't cheating there I guess only some moments but you can explain those because joof made more suspious moments and he's also not cheating (I think)

slajdan = cheater
newbje = dunno?

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Alexl got banned for Invoke 1 or 2, dnno anymore

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oh :< he send me a demo which he got banned for.... so tought he was banned for that demo my bad!

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It was that demo he got banned for. What SantJ mean is that he used invoke 1 och 2, ( doesnt rly matter what cheat he used, cheat as cheat ( IF HE CHEATED ).

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He did but wha's the reason of unbanning people if we aren't gonna let them play anyway.

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He was banned for a demo <_<

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Tony Hawk jONAS is their best player.

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it's their cup so they decide, who cares about being fair here anyway? gtfo

the fact is disposable drop out every year they get ec

omg retard, never played EC with Disposable.

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i dont give a fuck omg

jsut make a poll or something

It's not like disposable would go on to win EC when they would qualify

I see no problems, move on

Oh ok, so next ec they should only invite the top contenders, the others don't have a chance anyway.

Your logic blew me away perfo, brb trying to climb into my chair again.

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Exactly how it is and how it should be

Then again, we already invite the top contenders, don't we? We let the noobs qualify

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top contenders r like 3 teams max. so no its not logic :l

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:'DD

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Please perfo, name one team from quali which has more then 0.5% chance to get better then 6th in the EC playoffs.. please..

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I can't say anything with confidence. However, I doubt disposable is better than most teams in the qualifier phase. Qualifier teams hardly ever make playoffs anyway.

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I'd say dispo actually would have been one of the contenders to play in the playoffs though depending on groups ofc

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I never see them search for a prac game or whatever :l They have the 'individual skills', but whether their 'team' is any good I have no idea

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I dunno either, never pay attention to the ones who search highskilled anyway ;) but they have played together for a very long time so..

but ofc they probably wont prac very hard now since they aren't in EC anyway and can't go to the lan

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now u don't know about their skill and first u were mocking that they suck more than other teams :o ?

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they have individual skill, but less than the top teams who actually do pracc aswell. therefore it's logical to conclude that even without knowing their skill, it will be less than the top teams.

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anyway dispo guys have played together like 4 years now, and surely they got more experience together than many of these random 2 weeks teams that got quali

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well yes, and i don't trust these guys more than those random teams (i actually trust them less, prolly on the same level as desire!), and i for one wouldn't want to play vs hackers or ultra-suspicious people anyways. the random teams will get filtered out at the quali's anyways, and if auth lose to devilry we might actually have something resembling a clean ec!

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if CB think that dispo guys are hacking, they should just ban them and not give lame excuses and on general basis let haxers attend other competition that the admins don't value that much (eg. nirv winning OC 3on3 premier)

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i agree, but aslong as they don't ban them i'm happy i don't have to play them. ;d

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I'm not happy if there are non-banned cheaters around :d

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Rofld.

I used to think those swedes hacked but I respect some of them now because they seem to be skilled at multiple games quite fast. Like AlexL pretty much owned on quakewars and how Joonas played very decent on CoD4.

slajdan, nEwbje

btw I agree with you about them

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you cant say newbje is playing that good & obvious :/ hes just good nothing more...

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its pretty obvious cause he cant actually play ET (when i specced him on ETTV it was like wathcing a retarded person play who cant manage a strafejump), he can only aim.. and he cant even aim that well. kinda reminds me of malczik.

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Oh cmon, i had low fps, it was sw_gr and my mouse was broken ( thats why i changed with slajdan ) or do u think i changed with slajdan cuz i was not able to strafejump?

Now i got stable fps and my mouse is working perfect ! :D

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how can you even know what game i'm talking about? the game i specced a week or few ago was on supply

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cuz i have only played ETTV once since comeback and it was against the polish guys.

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bullshit, i just specced you in some 3on3 match a few weeks ago on supply.

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We might have played supply, but it was the same game as I'm talking about, against the polish guys. And i might be a bad strafer but this match you are talking about i had bad fps and broken mouse.

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ok, ive played with shitty ping and fps lags + a shitty mouse for most of my gaming career and they don't take you from med+ (or whatever you were) to low\+

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You are the fucking hero, owner of enemy territory and i sucks, are you happy? I dont understand why u continue mucking, you have watched 1 game when my mouse was broken and says im an obvious cheater and who the fuck are you to judge?

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I'm the motherfucking batman.

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i agree with you :)

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Slajdan is good in css! :'D

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keNta also had good aim in ET befor he got his etbot

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Aima is almost as skilled without his bot as he is with it. (he just doesn't know where the enemy is comming x)

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oh yes because there arent existing cheats for cod4 :)

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so unexpected that you reply with the superficial comment I expected some random retard to make

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you expect me to say that and then you say im a random = makes sense

first find some friends and act cool then

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No I said i expected some random retard to make that comment, and then you made it which didn't surprise me at all

you can read, do you?

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but am i wrong then ?
mister that asked for free cheats at netcoders forum :))))))))))))))))))))

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I did what? :D

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...... liek you dont remember.

and btw i know that alexl doesnt cheat, but honestly im not that sure about jonas an (wizzel)

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I honestly don't

and wizzel is the most suspicious one yeah, good that we agree on someting at least

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mister that asked for free cheats at netcoders forum :))))))))))))))))))))

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your intelligence amazes me

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...... liek you dont remember.

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haha :dddd weer aan zee ja? :/

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nee, ma moe zo weg drmee dak nie op irc zit :)
ej en doe mij een plezier lacht den kevin wa uit tesamen me mijn broer ofzo
lol

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accu will lose anyway so its a win win situation, stop whining dickheads

have to agree with you...care who gets the spot...they wont win a match anyway

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true! but dispo could get far I think!

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I think theyll win kind of easy.

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dunno the new lineup looks better then the previous ones

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maybe we can pull out a surprise and maybe not

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i agree with testi alot of ex hackers playing instead of dispo since most of them are lan profed.Killerboy,doneX etc you should retire and let professionals handle the CB invites and qualiferis beacuse every season gets worse pls try to understand this is bootlicking here what we are dealing with and OFC personal hateing

Nuggan and Savage are the only ones (?) who went to a LAN? correct me if im wrong

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dont know exactly but much more than 2 , it was like 5-6 was lan profed

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Playing at LAN != LAN proven

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with the "lan proofed" you mean a known LAN or just some random swedish LAN were only low-- played on ?

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Even i am lanproofed, i was driving my car when i needed to take a piss, suddenly i saw this building and entered there was a LAN and a toilet, i took a piss. Now i am lanproofed .

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wizzel(which sucked) lotix/GODCHILD

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Crajsor, LoTiX, NuggaN, sAvage, wizzel

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alexL
sAvage
wizzel
newbje
slajdan
nordaN
crajsor

is their LU

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rly?=D what makes u think thats the lineup we are going to play with?

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well isnt that the LU you posted @ the CC5 team overview, and how many swe's are left?

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I thought we were talking about Clanbase EC, and yes that is probably our lineup for cc5, but we still ahve crajsor, jONAS and lotix for EC which also are the best players.

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Im one of the best? \o/

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take GODCHILD, that name is 1000 times better and sexier

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this is more serial

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wizzel aka mr low/+ @ lan (not exagerating)

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<+KiL|3rBoY> TosspoT
<+KiL|3rBoY> how do you spell exagerate?

Fail.

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WAUW he doesn't know how to spell a word that isn't part of his own native langauge

BURN THE MOTHERFUCKERRRRR

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khm khm you should be quite beacuse you dont know nothing about skill mr.lowhimself

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how long do you play this game for? Proof it with yawn pls.

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i got yawn proves that Overschie praccs with accurate.

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so? As long as he doesn't play a CB match nowone should care, he's banned for a pub hack anywayz -_-

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i dont have to show my yawn to prove my history even if i was banned or cheating u just a pc geek

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Thanks you proved my point, now resign from the internet.

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he didn't prac with us for a long time don't know why everyone is whining about it =D

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killerboy plays with skeiz, who cares :D

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Guess what, we don't give a shit!

wtf with seb1 & maxuh ?

seb1 had years ago a red yawn ^^. Though it came from his broken gfx card :o

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oh, i didn't know. wtf with maxuh? ;<

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Dunno, I haven't played with him so I can't say anything 8)

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there was a tread about him half year ago that he cheated but they weren't sure about it

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True, there were a thread but it hasn't been prooved(that the log/ip would be attributed to maxuh).
Btw, it wasn't maxuh but his brother who was accused(maxuh doesn't live in his house for more than 2years).

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wtf kinda excuse is that? :D
you cant get a red yawn because of broken graphics card, that actually gives away that he cheated cause he had to make up a blatantly impossible lie to hide something.

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almost every team that isn't around since ages and got the more popular players in their lineup got atleast one suspicious player in their team, that's how it is these days.

not really

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pretty much correct yeah

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sad but true idd

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you just think they are suspicious because you dont know them well enough

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True, and understandable. But as cliche as it sounds, there actually are some new talents.

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what Kevin said

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hayaa sucks omg

" FF-xfi Also a lot of suspicious players, who sucked at lan, and own like hell now online "

good joke sir :D maybe nick + proof ?

Wiesiek sucked ( 25/30 acc ) at cdc2 and he owns hardcore online ( just for the record )

I don't know whether he's in FF atm though

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maybe 10 % acc ?

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that was long time ago :P and he owned on PGA in Poland

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You suck everywhere :)

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QuoteThey got players with a history

;DD ;D :DD

now, why do you care about dispo? I don't give a flying fuck who is in EC eventhough I don't like acc for various reasons

yes because you aren't him

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just wanted 2 write some colum, and was bored:P
and i dont like acc for various reasons though.

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give me the reasons!

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Make a newspost.

lol'd @ rat,maxuh and hayaa

image: facepalm2ic7copyrl2

always knew not to trust this rAt guy

lol oh wow

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seb1 didn't play with cheat.

true, cheats was playing with him

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:D
read above

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haha :p

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hehehe :-)

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:DDD

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Right, wtf is HB doing in EC anyway, like they are going to win a single match.. first being inactive and when EC starts, they are suddenly active, aaaaand gets direct invite. I think there is better teams in quali atm than HB with direct invite. But in CB we trust ! they obviously know better.

#Accurate - support us!

Who the fuck cares about dispo anyways, they have allways been a bunch of retarded kids. They shouldn't even be allowed in oc..

still it would be fun seeing those HIGHSKILL PROS play and probably fail.

I DONT SEE BOBBAN IN THE LINEUP ???

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True =DDD

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By removing cs3r, CB had the possibility to give dispo a quali instead. But I was very surprised that they didn't. CB's policy about slajdan is totally ridiculous and can't be based on anything. Either ban or should be allowed to play anything they offer. As if CB admins know that some ppl are cheating and let them attend the minor competitions (eg. nirv winning 3on3 OC).
If CB felt that accurate was worth wuali spot as well, they should have let dispo play a qualifier for quali spot vs accurate. That would have been fair since we are looking for the best teams for EC anyway...
One problems is surely timeline, but I guess something as important as this could have been arranged due time.

Slajdan alone isnt the reason.

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Yea but what I'm saying here is that if CB think they hax, then the ones should be banned and the rest allowed to join the competitions. I think it's very weird policy not to ban them and handle the situation like this...

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I think some admin said that disbo have a history of dropping out multiple times and therefore they automatically will be left out. Ive not checked these facts but it could explain something if its true.

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once... :)

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ok, this is first good reason I've heard about this matter... but if it's just one time, then it shouldn't be that grave

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omg you made me lolled, CB CAN ONLY BAN PLAYES IF THEY GOT ENVIDENCE THAT THEY ARE CHEATING. So it must be pbbans. If they got privat cheats you can't ban them because you probably can't see it. Damn you must know it you were in bSTURZ.
How hard is it to think a little bit -_-

atleast we probably won't get a new keNta or jaN or smth be happy about it

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sry but I totally missed your point.

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Yea but what I'm saying here is that if CB think they hax, then the ones should be banned and the rest allowed to join the competitions

than read my reply....

and it's not only about slajdan if you think so

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If their policy is to tag someone as cheater without evidence and therefore not let them play in the EC but on the other hand allow them play every other cup and leagues there are in CB, I think there's something totally wrong. They should just ban the ones they think are haxing, and that's it. It's either or and nothing in between.

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i agree actually...but maybe they think we are better than disposable

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Maybe u are but surely all the teams that got quali can't be, in their opinion. And I'm not whining about who they think is good or not but the reasons they give, like "they didn't give dispo quali because dispo got slajdan in lineup" is a totally ridiculous reason. If they think slajdan hax then they should just ban him.

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i understand what u mean...i think we are just lucky with this "shot at EC" and you (dispo) are unlucky for using a acc who didnt finish 4 cups and got a "cheating history"

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well, first of all I'm on dispo lineup but never actually played any game for them :p (so I'm not biased in any way in here, but talking completely objectively)

This "didn't finish cups" is a new and apparently a strained reason the admins just came up with recently after they realized how stupid their policy about slajdan has been. Care to delineate those 4 cups anyway? Because for what I've heard there's just 1 cup that dispo didn't finish

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well...i dont know that much about disposable, but it's just the things i heard.
Tbh i think disposable indeed does deserve the spot, but i think that we also deserve it. (atleast we had some nice games vs teams like vae mammut overload TLR)

So ahh well..I think most people have the opinion that disposable deserves the quali more than we do, but clanbase choose us. So be it, and we'll do our best to win as much as we can.

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my point was never to criticize the decision that u got picked, but it was about CB's lame policy towards dispo in general.... gl in the quali for u :)

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i know..thanks

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wasnt there a movie where alexl was tracking his m8s on b4 trough the walls for atleast 2 mins or smth like that..

EDIT: agree with ur ff point n stuff

FF-xfi Also a lot of suspicious players, who sucked at lan, and own like hell now online.

are u retarded ?:D

agree. I want to see lotix playing ec again :>

I think we atleast should have a game vs acc for the quali spot.

its not about skill if you havent understood it yet

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Maybe your luck is with you 2day, check the forums later this evening, and you know why!
<KiL|3rBoY> yep
<KiL|3rBoY> and sent it to bulld0g
<KiL|3rBoY> we always suspected them
<KiL|3rBoY> and when i posted it
<KiL|3rBoY> everyone flamed
<krts-Testi> yeah i know
<krts-Testi> well, who s gonna get the ec invite now:S
<KiL|3rBoY> a question

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you're really ignorant aren't you? yes, everyone agrees that you are way better and deserve the spot skillwise, but you're still not getting it.

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we are better individual and better as a team

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i know, and everyone else knows. prove yourselves on cc5 and you'll get an invite next season if there is one.

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its not like i cry for not playing ec. Its just funny how CB admins can act.
and its not like i am looking forward to play next ec, if there even will be one.

But i am lokking forward for cc5

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