don't buy it until there is a decent chipset for it, the current X58 chipset sucks if you don't have el cheapo ram. Your nice and expensive i7 will die in that chipset.
why not? it looks really awesome, and wth does triflip means with the chipset?
so far i heard its better, be effective for all games, much more quite etc and scored a freaking good score @ 3rd mark or something :F
Ive only seen benchmarks of cod4, and the best Quad owned Nehalem there. But winrar etc nehalem won.
He means the chipset you mobo uses. Tho I havent heard x58 sucks.
The neverending discussing about getting Q or D=) I assume your a gamer? A dualcore would be better. If you do much videoeditting, you should get a Quad
the X58 sucks because it doesn't seperate the ram voltage en the mem controller voltage, it causes the mem controller (which Intel builds in the CPU, likes AMD does for years) the die, which makes your whole CPU not working.
The performance/cost ratio will not be worth it, especially when Kentsfield, Wolfdale and Yorkfield will have a major price drop due to the i7 release.
There is also the issue with stability. Intel is quite infamous for having issues in the first revisions, usually not fatal but we all remember the B3 stepping of the Q6600 right? Core i7 is mainly marketed towards enthusiasts at this point because well... that's who it is for. All the motherboards are new technology, the ram is new technology, you are risking an awful lot on new and much untested hardware.
There is also the issue that for gaming, the Penryn chips are matching/even outperforming sometimes the i7's even though the i7's are winning in general use. I honestly doubt someone would want to sacrifice gaming performance with a brand new technology that costs three or four times as much as a Penryn based system.
Kentsfield/Yorkfield/Wolfdale will be strong for a very long time. The release of the i7 will not affect us yet. Hell, I'm probably going to skip i7 all together and even skip past Wolfdale, the 32nm shrink, and just wait for Sandy Bridge 32nm second/third revisions which should be around 2011/2012 and will absolutely devastate the i7 line. This thing is the first step in advancing past the old SSE instruction set with the new AVX which will be insanely useful in higher level applications.
With my Q6600 I'll probably able to play every game released between now and 2011 and I'll still get excellent performance for money in general use and video editing.
Performance/cost ratio will not be worth it in the beginning, but my guess is that prices will drop quite fast after release. Maybe a bit of a strange comparison, but when I bought my GPU in februari this year, it was 400 euros (3870x2, new technology). By that time, drivers/performance were quite crap. Only a few months later(august or something), performance was great and the card was sold for only 180 euros. That's 45% of the release price + performance was better in only +- 6 months. Same for C2D e6600, after half a year prices dropped already like 40%.
And yes, you probably can play every game till 2011, but playing a shooter (competitive) with 50 fps is not acceptable imo.
All I say is that IF you can wait a few months, you should wait for proper benchmarks and comparison of i7 (by then the prices have probably dropped already). If you don't like the price/performance by then, then you can always go for an older CPU (from what I heard the prices of these CPU will drop a lot cause they want to get rid of their stock).
Well my Athlon3000 was on its deathbed so I didn't have the choice of waiting, needed to build a new machine to replace it.
I don't think there will be any competitive shooters released in the next few years anyway, I'm sure things like Severity and Wolfenstein would still net me 125fps solid.
a question, should i buy the Q9550? (i dont want to buy a duo, since once quad will be fully functioned, it'll have 2x the power of duo, and i can get 125fps solid in every game with this current machine i have [q6600 & 8800], or wait for other cpu? (i need a price of 200euros max!)
I don't think it's really usefull to buy Q9550 if you got a Q6600 already, but if you don't think it's fast enough, you can buy a Q9550, yes. (You can always buy a used Q9550 when ur Q6600 is too slow). In your case, with 200 euros max, it's not worth waiting for a new CPU.
so far i heard its better, be effective for all games, much more quite etc and scored a freaking good score @ 3rd mark or something :F
He means the chipset you mobo uses. Tho I havent heard x58 sucks.
and isnt quad also faster?
I'm running an Asus P5Q Pro and had my Q6600 at 3.6Ghz stable on air, I think I could even get 3.8 out of it.
Look at Asus and Gigabyte motherboards and see what you like.
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/55990/asus-hoog-geheugenvoltage-kan-core-i7-beschadigen.html
There is also the issue with stability. Intel is quite infamous for having issues in the first revisions, usually not fatal but we all remember the B3 stepping of the Q6600 right? Core i7 is mainly marketed towards enthusiasts at this point because well... that's who it is for. All the motherboards are new technology, the ram is new technology, you are risking an awful lot on new and much untested hardware.
There is also the issue that for gaming, the Penryn chips are matching/even outperforming sometimes the i7's even though the i7's are winning in general use. I honestly doubt someone would want to sacrifice gaming performance with a brand new technology that costs three or four times as much as a Penryn based system.
Kentsfield/Yorkfield/Wolfdale will be strong for a very long time. The release of the i7 will not affect us yet. Hell, I'm probably going to skip i7 all together and even skip past Wolfdale, the 32nm shrink, and just wait for Sandy Bridge 32nm second/third revisions which should be around 2011/2012 and will absolutely devastate the i7 line. This thing is the first step in advancing past the old SSE instruction set with the new AVX which will be insanely useful in higher level applications.
With my Q6600 I'll probably able to play every game released between now and 2011 and I'll still get excellent performance for money in general use and video editing.
And yes, you probably can play every game till 2011, but playing a shooter (competitive) with 50 fps is not acceptable imo.
All I say is that IF you can wait a few months, you should wait for proper benchmarks and comparison of i7 (by then the prices have probably dropped already). If you don't like the price/performance by then, then you can always go for an older CPU (from what I heard the prices of these CPU will drop a lot cause they want to get rid of their stock).
Your money, your decision.
I don't think there will be any competitive shooters released in the next few years anyway, I'm sure things like Severity and Wolfenstein would still net me 125fps solid.