magic mushrooms to be banned

Nov. 11, 2008 — A national ban on the sale of fresh hallucinogenic ‘magic’ mushrooms will take effect in the Netherlands on December 1, 2008. In dried form those mushrooms already were banned under Dutch Opiate Laws.

The ban was first proposed in October 2007, after as series of high-profile deaths and injuries linked to magic mushroom trips.

In 2006, nine out of ten incidences in which ’shrooms’ played a role involved tourists — many of whom had apparently not followed advice for proper use as handed out by the so-called ’smart shops.’ The vast majority of these incidences took place in Amsterdam.

When they buy mushrooms, consumers are instructed in their proper use. Among other things they are told not to use the mushrooms in combination with other drugs or with alcohol.
Magic mushrooms in Amsterdam

Health minister Ab Klink had urged the Dutch Lower House to ban the mushrooms after a 17-year-old French girl committed suicide by jumping from a bridge into busy traffic. It was later stated that the girl, not old enough to legally enter a smart shop herself, had asked a friend to buy her some mushrooms.


sounds like utter bullshit to me :( bit over week before cc5

Sources: http://www.dutchamsterdam.nl/542-hallucinogenic-magic-mushrooms-netherlands-amsterdam & http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7041961.stm

image: magic-mushrooms
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like u wont get any if u really want them
if the law/proposion is going to pass, I'll just have to ask for some kind soul to buy me some in advance

(hey spho/hnkn!)
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they look weird =)
they look amazing :D
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they look like his beard
image: davy_jones
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haha they do
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we are doomed :S
outlaw mushrooms and only the criminals will have mushrooms
hey thx for the music man, i like most of it. but what program do u use to dl the stuff?
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torrents on the two main private music trackers, dont have any invites im afraid
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mm np i can find everything with soulseek aswell :)
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why ban the mushrooms?
ban the fucking bridges/cars thats what killed her.
Yes drugs make your life interesting !
ET makes your life interesting!
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both together might be interesting ! (what the fuck :D)
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it actually was :d went to merc for toxic & co, never had so much fun while playing ET.
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haha, and then imagine them on ventrilo, doubting about you and your behaviour xD
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21:17:19| (decem) I can merc
21:17:35| (decem) or well, for how long were u planning?
21:17:49| (FatGames`toxic) dno
21:17:54| (FatGames`toxic) till like 23cet or smth
21:17:57| (FatGames`toxic) are u stoned or drunk tho?
21:18:01| (decem) umm
21:18:05| (decem) nnnoo
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priceless =DDDDD
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a friend of mine once saw pink elephants coming towards him after he took it :D
m8 of me saw homer simpson in every person that passed by, now THAT is brilliant :D
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I don't really think that's so cool.

What the fuck is the point in taking drugs or shrooms anyway?
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I agree. drugs are bad
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hes just lying tbh
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no he's not :) he's not such a kind of a person
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might be with his eyes closed, but u really dont see an pink elefant, u can have tiny halicinations but seeing things like elefants is bs
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you're an expert I suppose
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HAI FAVOURITE ACTUOUR WE TAKE PICTURE ?!
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cc5 is ruined now
if affects my plans a bit atleast :(
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It wasnt sarcastic comment =/
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what happened to your dog?

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wanted to ask the same :p
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friend of me took some of them..he said he had never been on such a trip.for few hours he had "heavy thinking" and everthing was not real for him etc. he was out with friends and said he coulndt see them any longer and stuff..kinda scary..but hey why not just for ze fun of it
I never done them without weed, cant imagine whats it like, atleast weed smoothens the trip and makes you more relaxed.

also going into a full bar while on shrooms is not very good idea, had to try it anyway :D
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yeah he smoked weed too.think they were at rotterdam. there are different sorts of shrooms. and they bought "heaviest" ones.cant remember the name tho..

it is hilarioius when he talks about it...he had so much panic and doubts about life/time/logi thinking..really weird :D
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sort of panic is quite common :p you feel like everything is happening too fast and everyone is talking and shouting and you just want to get somewhere where its more quiet.
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mmm when i smoke (alot) weed in a trip the trips gets alot more intensive for me
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yeah I was only talking about a joint or two.
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well ye me aswell :P guess trippin is a little bit diffent for everyone i guess
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u can still buy the seeds and grow them yourself (which is pretty easy)
I got spores \o/
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well its still legal here so dont need them (yet:[)
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I still have plenty left from autumn but im on a saving mode, if I were to grow them, I'd probably dare to spend them more aswell.
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haha they grow in the wild were u live? that just awesome tbh:p im getting lsd soon aswell :)
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should grow in nl aswell. they grow outside my flat. 20 meter walk in the morning with the dog, picking up few mushrooms and then to school, repeat :p
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mmm ye maybe in the forest never went looking or them ;<
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nah, not in forests, grassfields etc.
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mm if ur in holand u should try hawain mushrooms there the strongest :)
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those im going to try, yeh.
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they have the heaviest mindtrip, but ull feel very weak (alot more then with other mushrooms)
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havent done it in ages, but sounds like i need to buy a fresh stock next weekend :D
Salvia divinorum ftw !! try it and u wont regret !!
Someone at our school was running out of the building, chasing his head, which, in turn was running away from his body (or so he claimed)
glad I'm going next week!
u shouldnt take m in public!
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You're going to take some shrooms to Finland with you when coming back? :D

nice playing under influence on cc5 :d losing was never so much of fun! ;>
will see, I doubt it. last time I got checked cuz I smelled weed so much. dont want to risk it :p maybe i'll post some shrooms to myself from germany!
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but you hadn't anything with you @ the checkup?
afaik some herbs are allowed to be exported in finland but what about shrooms?
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nah, didnt have anything. shrooms are illegal.
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Did them a couple of weeks ago for the first time, great stuff. Our governement has gone crazy, alcohol using tourists ruined the reputation of shrooms. :(
ye sucks :[ but holland is still great for drugs :D
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Well, if the governement gets their way they'll be closing coffeeshops in the future aswell :x
I'm just sad that I only got the chance to do shrooms once, don't think I'm mentally ready for another one before 1 dec. Oh well, on to LSD & DMT & Ketamine then :PP
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mmm that would really sucks if they close the shops. but i doubt that will happen (maybe other citys but not amsterdam). well actuly dunno if u took 1 portie, but lsd is less mind trippin then paddos, more visual and more energie. i wouldnt try dmt yet tou :D
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Nah I know, dmt would scare the shit out of me for now(not enough experience with entheogenics blabla, don't have to explain you that ;)),but ''toekomstplannen'' are never a bad thing :p
And idd, I think I would love LSD, didn't have that much visuals on shrooms, but I loved the ones I did have. Can't wait to see what my mind is capable of ;)
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shrooms doenst have much visuals so its not that weird u didnt get much visuals. ill try dmt 1 day aswell. im getting lsd soon from sum friends soon and maybe friday some ketamine, alltou ketamine is weird people just use abit @ afterparties but u have to use ALOT to get a trip
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Hehehe, I don't have that much drug-connections sadly enough. But I'll get to it, eventually :p
Anyway have fun with it then! (K)
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no me neither, waited like 6 months :D
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makes sense

QuoteIn 2006, nine out of ten incidences in which ’shrooms’ played a role involved tourists — many of whom had apparently not followed advice for proper use as handed out by the so-called ’smart shops.’


now ban alcohol, medicine, etc and other shit you can overdose and die from
sad.
But they still got the best weed in Europa.
And if u really want them i dont think its to hard to get em. but why go to the Netherlands if they are illegal its easier to get em at home you will have to take the risk to face the law anyway. =(

(not a shroom user)
u can order mushrooms seeds from the netherlands to almost every country in the world:D
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yeah but since they are illegal the police are watching mail with dogs N stuff so u can still get busted. but if u want to grow mushrooms its the right way to go. Do any one know any serious study's how mushrooms affect the health? I don't think its to good for u but as long as you don't get violent and crush my car i don't really care. // Happy shroom using ^_^
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mm they dont affect your health at all. only danger is if your sensitive for paranoia and stuff like that, it will trigger it (so if your parent or sumthing have stuff like that u shouldnt take it). apart from that ist not dangerous, and the police doenst check if there are paddos seeds in a box :D
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Cant the dog sniff seeds?

Yeah i herd that its not dangerous but do u have any source on that?
(Heroin was first introduced as a troth medicine and for headaches and by then "it wasn't dangerous at all".)
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well just google info about shrumoors me and my mate did alot research before taking first time, abut 15 friends took it now noone went bad. the seeds are the same seeds as for normal flowers, they wont sniff it :P
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anecdote experience dose not count. =(
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well i knew alot peepz who took them, everything went fine;)
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i also know a few guys that took shroms and one guy took an enormous amount of dried Psilocybe cubensis like 20 grams(dont know exactly how much he took but a really high dose) or so and he is still alive so its not so deadly i think but i dont want to base my opinion about a drog on just anecdote experiences.
Plus that u should not trust some random guy at the internet(including me)
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m i already took 7x but mm u shouldnt take too much first time :D so were do u want to base it on?
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science. cold science.

After all i live in Sweden if u use any drog besides tobacco, and alcohol and get busted u are gonna get socially freezed out from family and "normal"(no drog using) friends after all the propaganda they teach you at school and generally hear in media.

And Sweden have one of the hardest laws on drogs in Europa.

science+politics=fail
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mmm my parents wouldnt be happy either if they found out what ive used ;p
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sweden also has superduber awesome police force cathing 6% of all the criminals committing crimes. thats about 3 busts per police / year!
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Source ^^
No they aren't really that bad. but the social climate about drogs is worse then the police.
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no mush mush in my room ;((
I promise there will be mush mush in your room! <3
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nice fucking hippies who kept jumping from building couse they ate to many. stupid drugs no need 4 it
They should outlaw buildingZ....
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your right my bad !
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My point was that even if that one stupid person die u shouldn't criminalize it and feed the criminals organizations even more. When somebody drink and drive its not a big deal even when they danger there own lives and others.
but if someone proves that shrooms effect the health on the person it self and a 3rd party person really bad(more then the legal drugs) it should be out lawed. and also the opposite if a new drog on the market isnt proved that its "healthy"(if a drog can be healthy) it should not be allowed.
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weed > all ..
all other illegal drugs aren't "cool"
Oh well, at least they grow 5 minutes from my house \o/
growing own weed > that ugly retarted penisdrug
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