Banned for knowingly playing with cheaters
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19 Nov 2008, 01:37
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The following users have been banned for knowingly playing with busted cheaters such as jetro and Leppi:
parra
hunta
vis
oldensan
rezta
people who knowingly play with busted cheaters serving a ban in cf / cb will be banned from cf, make sure who you play with and consider this as a fair warning.
as it is now, the ban lenght is 3 months. these players are still available to attend cc5 if they wish.
parra
hunta
vis
oldensan
rezta
people who knowingly play with busted cheaters serving a ban in cf / cb will be banned from cf, make sure who you play with and consider this as a fair warning.
as it is now, the ban lenght is 3 months. these players are still available to attend cc5 if they wish.
u're the best admin
vis is banned for playing with cheaters, not for being a cheater
you can play with him as much as you want to.
I never said that vis was a cheator,
i only said that he plays with cheators.. why would you ban him then else for? So if i continue playing with him, then i'll be eventually playing with the cheators that play with him... so i'm aware of it, so i deserve a ban as well
hope you understand my point now,
thanks
This rule could work if everyone had several mixclans like you, but that is not the case.
- You don't have to play the cheater if you don't want to and that is where the base of all this "cheat" things starts.
- Encourages ID faking, think it is pretty obvious what it means and what the following consequences probably will be, not positive in other words.
-You yourself and probably some others have organized mixclans which you can simply play with(or join if you are not already in them, this is quite big in ). So this rule doesn't hinder you from playing 24/7 if you would want to do so, unlike alot of other guys.
I would encourage this rule if it was a bit modified, it would then be a step toward the more competitive games rules. But right now with this rule, it is like cutting of your finger when you are supposed to cut your nails.
Everyone can claim he didn't know, and it could be true, no1 can prove that afaik
didnt want to try n get a 6th at the last minute :)
edit: expected ignore
But I guess it is worth it, hope those donks would think twice before installing botzhizzles.
One week ban or...?
edit: Topic title "Banned for playing with known cheaters"
Awaiting a Journal Title: "Banned for Knowingly playing with cheaters"
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This temp/ban is for playing with so called cheaters, not for installing botzhizzles as you call them.
Have to laugh as Vis ban btw, he is cool, who has the time to check if people have cheated in the past if your spamming mIRC as an available merc for a bit of fun when bored.
Fail
there should be difference in the rule..
edit: ban mama for playing with cheaters ;D::D;D::DDDD:D;D:D
Mind
Sample (LoL banned already xD)
Donka
Vanhaomena
ps. jetro reseted his stats few seconds before the end of round.
FAKE
all you have is some crossfire post of wrobel who says" you have butchji we have gnajda" which was just ment as a joke.
anyway keep the "polish" funnies coming
ps. http://dec.pp.fi/misc/czar.html
ps. why oldensan?
Also i bet 80% of the community have/still play with cheaters its rediculous
I mean how did parra know he was cheating?
And how can you prove they "knowingly" played with cheaters? I know people here who have been banned because they unknowingly took a cheating merc who was busted during the game....
it's a stupid rule but then again this site is such a wonderful mess anyway.
u werent there!!! and now me has to sleep with a girl in one room. no decem again.... or...?!
will see, will see, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4pIxnuUG1k !
im sorry im shy.... pls u were shy too as we met first time. ;)
but we had a nice day then. omg omg im so freaking around allrdy when i think about. its just 1 month to go... ;)
I just had to rofl at this stupid rule.
I think the bigger problem is in fact that ppl remain playing versus known/busted cheaters. IF you simply don't play versus them anymore they have nobody to play against, which would make it quite boring.
I'm not totally against the fact that you ban ppl based on them knowingly playing with cb-banned players, but you can't always know for every random mix you play. Besides that it also has some situtations such as someone playing a mix with tekoa or aza. Should they be banned on CF for playing with them?
Thing is, we shouldn't care so much about a cheater on a public. It's annoying but that's about it. But a cheater in a 6on6, be it a mix or prac or offi, is a different thing and should be treated different.
think of your example, just cuz they are nice guys, they shouldnt be punished at all? wow, a 3 month ban at cb to inactive guy who doesnt play competive besides random mixeds, shit he must be so mentally broken that he cant play for 3 months.
Don’t have a decent analogy to hand, but say if you’re found drunk in your car, the keys might not be in the ignition, but the fact you’ve got the keys with you there’s a presumption you’re going to drive…
(Disclaimer you can’t perm ban anyone, so draconian bans, to me, seem counterproductive. Better to try to get them to play clean rather than push them further outside so it’s “fuck it”.)
The analogy with the drunk guy in a car is also easily debunked. What if the guy got out of the bar cuz it was closing, realises he's too drunk to be driving so he gets in his car to sleep. Ofcourse he's going to have his keys with him but he's just in his car sleeping it off. Done that tons of times and also got knocked on the window by a cop, whom I simply told "can't drive atm, so I'm taking a sleep first".
Problem is you can’t apply mates rates, it’s gotta be applicable to everyone – so you’re against banning those that cheat on publics?
I think you’ve to draw the line and say no, that’s not acceptable, that’s malicious and we won’t have it. Host a private server with pb turned off if you want a fun night of hacking. I’m not suggesting perm bans, but there’s gotta be something preventative and something punitive or what’s the point? Sliding scale ‘n all that jazz.
That made no sense. You said that we have to assume that people that cheat on pub also cheat in competition. I say that that is bullshit and gave the example of knowing tons of ppl that have cheated on a pub once or twice and would never cheat in a competition game, ever. So I dont really get what your point is when you say the presumption was intential and the people I know are the exception that prove the rule.
I'm not applying mates rates, I'm seperating pubs from competition and ofcourse I'm not against banning ppl that got caught cheating on a pub, but ban them on the pubserver and not somewhere that has fuck all to do with that pub-server.
I think pubcheats are taken way too seriously. It's the cheats in competition games we should worry about, not the silly and way too obvious pubhacks. There is nothing to gain from hacking on a pub, except satisfying a mischievous itch. There IS something to gain from hacking in competition and that's what sites such as CB and CF should be after.
Hoera for crossfire
OTT 2 Teh MAX
+ all be. players didnt knowingly play with him because he was busted 2-3 days ago. thats the difference leol