Social Acceptance and PC Gaming

because ET is for pro's only and the kid is just scared that you pwn the hell out of him!

but for real.. imo its just that playing on the ps3/wii/xbox360 is what most guys do and also with friends etc.. but when you are playing a game on the comp alone its kinda nurdy, compared to xbox with friends

they are just stupid =)

the real nubs are the ones who buy a console imo, it's far more expensive then a pc =)

Because it's soccer.

because ET=shooting
pro evo= football

...

Prolly cause consoles and football are more connected in playing it with rl friends and doesnt have such a cliche like the pc itself ( beeing nerd having no rl etc. )

If you have the mates round for a lan in the house with some beers....is there a problem in society??

If you're sitting on comms with people, some of who are 5-10 years younger than you, from different parts of Europe...all of whom are basically sitting alone in a room, then people just think it's weird.

I disagree with the analogy.


EDIT: typo

i have this argument with my housemates who i play pro evo with all the time :P

because most minds are influenced by what the media shows them, and in most shows and movies you'll see middle aged single men playing basket/soccer on their playstation

well not only because of this factor of course, but I think that it has his part in this misconception of who's the nerd

+ what mama and max said, very true as well

You can get up to 8 people on one console all able to play at once, you can’t really do that on a PC. Playing a PC multiplayer without online capabilities would just not work.

Think it's a bit of everything... gaming on the pc is more closed off, you might be interacting with others across the globe but you can't with the person next to you, whereas consoles are inclusive, from the type of games, the setup to how you appear playing them. Hopefully the standard 'n gameplay of console games will eventually overtake that of the pc (mouse + keyboard > * atm) 'n everyone can geek in peace!

It pains me too though. I know people that'll spend hours playing stupid flash games, but the second you put on anything with some playability (even trackmania rather than a 2D flash car game!) yer called a geek!

maybe because pro evo3 is smth u can do with your friends at home together with soem beer & fun.. just like watching a dvd together or going to the cinema or going out

while ET.. well.. u sit alone infront of your pc and play alone in the dark :P


or maybe because most ppl play pro evo as a hobby.. while most ppl who play ET/CS do it in a clan .. nerding every night with some unknown ppl to pracc and get better.

In greece it doesnt matter so much. Actually people who play some games (like dota) are more accepted than the people who cant play. This is because at some point, everyone has played something on his pc, and its just weird if you haven't.

oh yeah

evo & eVo !! the journal made me crazy !

Whenever you totally rock at a game not fighting/football related you're a fucking nerd, face it :(

strange comparison... when i m playing fifa with my best friends on xbox its not the same as i play ET alone... i cannot even compare... mainly because after we played 3-4 matches we go out... ET is way more nerdy.

People say stuff like "lol 26 and playing ET" because it's not something that the majority of people do. The nation considers it wierd if it's not formal.

i dunno anyone irl that plays computer games online lol, but i got never called a nerd or anything.
but i play much PS3 at my mates house and all my friends are (console) gamers too, so its np

When i've spoken to people i know about playing games like et and rtcw, they find it hard to grasp the fact that the people im playing and speaking with people i've generally never met.

I think thats the difference, and perhaps the shear amount of time, and specifically scheduled play if your in a proper
team.

With pro evo i just get shouted at come do a world cup, and we just play whenever. I think if everyone had a good pc and played fps games, then it would be more accepted, but as people said football will be more popular than shooting.

because gaming on consoles is usually something you do with rl friends, online gaming is seen as weird and for nerds because you play it either alone or with people you prolly never met.

the guy says "lol" in day to day dialogue, and calls you a nerd?

Playing with consoles was considered just as geek before Sony introduced the first Playstation. Funny how times change. :)

Most of the salient points have been raised already, but I'll collate them.

k1pa kicks off the discussion by noting that far more people are exposed to console gaming and, thus, it is seen as the more socially acceptable hobby.

mama, spiroze and Ati all raise the point that the difference is in the style of game - soccer vs shooting. I disagree here, as Halo is seen as a perfectly acceptable party game, at least among my friends.

Max brings up the age difference of players. Generally when you play social PES you'll be playing with your mates of similar ages; playing online FPS games you're playing with people from 15 to 35.

Jerrento mentions media indoctrination and stereotyping which is, undoubtedly, a factor.

Nellie makes the excellent point that console gaming is considerably more inclusive than PC gaming. You can play a console game in the living room with a beer, while chatting to your mates. Your mates can join in too, of course, but even if they don't the whole style is far more open than sitting in the corner with a PC.

Crumbs agrees, and points out that playing online clan games involves interacting (and, frequently, good friendships) with people you can't see and have never met. A large number of people have a lot of trouble comprehending this. The situation here is improving, but not rapidly.

Crumbs also raises, in passing, the thing that I find is the single biggest factor for people calling my gaming geeky. The fact that you have scheduled games. This means you end up blowing off opportunities to go out with friends, which you'd never do as a casual console gamer. This is (justifiably) seen as pretty damn geeky.

Combine all the above factors and you can probably get your answer. I think the situation is slowly improving. I remember when just having a computer and knowing how to use the internet was seen as untolerably geeky. Times change.

Consoles are considered less geek than PC games.
Sports games are considered less geek than shooters.

Here you go

It will always be like this.
Being good at something is geeky, being equally good at something else is cool.

I have two hobbies: playing guitar and computers. The first one is socially accepted. If I play something nice or difficult, people get impressed.
But if I start showing off my programming skills or gaming skills (yes I may suck, but i'm better than Joe D. RandomReallifer), suddenly I'm a geek.

That's life.

I BASH YOU AT PRO EVO EVO.

I seriously fail to understand that comment from kiddies saying "lol 26 and playing ET" ..I'm even older and believe me my gf would be happier me staying in playing that than going out drinking all the time. I mean I have my own family, many in this community do...I have finished my studies ages ago, so I mean what am I supposed to do? Sit in front of the tv watching coronation st every night?
Makes no sense...

On the point of pc vs console gaming I think the issue is a social one. Do you want to play with rl friends or virtual...Or did the preference come from friends or contacts. I onced asked my class at Uni who played et...no one had heard of it. Asked why 5 of them played ccs, the answer was always "the guys I live with play it"

cause everyone thinks playing football is awesome, stupidest sport ever.

It's very simply because when you're playing Pro Evo you are playing with friends that are in the same room. When you are playing ET you look and sound like you have a concieved inability to find friends in real life to play with, hence playing with people you have never met.

people aren't conscious

because its internet

Its football, you are english = simple ;D

I'm 32 years old, and have been playing video games (starting with an atari 2600) since I was like 13 or something.

All my life I heard this "how can u play games like a kid?" alot , and I totally ignore it cuz they dont know.

if there was a way to measure the heartbeats+adrenaline+seratonin (and some other hormones affiliated with happiness and stuff) of a guy who is bungee jumping (cool and accepted), and of a guy who just killed objective carrier 1 meter before the radio (nerd and not accepted)....I'm sure there wouldnt be much of a difference between these two examples...so they dont know what we feel when we are plaiyng vs a equal skilled team..

also kick off owns pes.....by far.

because ET is nerd game

lol 26 and still playing ET. noliefer

i have no idea rly it is stupid to flame for that but on the other hand i would personally flame ppl for playing shooters on console xDD

I guess its just whatever your used to and prefer

I've told friends I play online FPS' and they have no issue, I've also managed to convince a few to give it a go. I think it's becoming more socially acceptable with the likes of CoD and stuff doing really well on XBL and Playstation's online alternative.

I'd never admit to playing WoW in public though >:)

prolly coz football is now part of the habits, and e-gaming not.

I disagree with the people that say it's just because with pro evo you play it with your rl mates. Let's say if you played in a ET clan at a lan with your rl mates, you think people would see it as "socialable" then? I don't think so really.

imo, PC Gaming is generally considered nerdy, because PC's are technical as compared to ps3 or xbox, which just requires pushing the power button and chilling :>

You cant play PES Drinking in ET :(

ur not 26 mate, dont lie!!!