Received my letter today

I passed all the tests for the german army and im leaving my home in april for 2 years :)

How about you? Will you guys go to the army or rather not and go on playing pc?
And for the german guys did you passed the tests? Did you even get a invitation or not?


greetz
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Don't see why anyone would join the army.

PEACE AND LOVE EVERYONE! PEACE AND LOVE!
2 years ? voluntary I guess.
normally 9 months, but i will go for 2 years.
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I see, glhf
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2 years @army? ill be there @summer probably
omg its no resort!
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well i join to army at summer for 3 years' probally iil fight at gaza:(
whats your problem? you re defending the world most beautifull country









oh wait...
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Has Germany used its troops in recent years? Besides invading Europe a couple of decades ago obviously..
lol that's simply an arrogant and retarded comment
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It's not arrogant, I was wondering if you're on a mission or something and whether there's actually any risk in joining the army or not.
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for sure there are missions: KFOR(Kosovo) EUFOR(Bosnia Herzegovina) UNOMIG (Georgia) UNAMA(Afghanistan) ISAF(Afghanistan/Uzbekistan) UNMIS(Sudan) EUSEC(Democratic Republic of Kongo) UNMEE(Ethiopia Eritrea) OEF(Horn of Africa / Djibouti) and UNIFIL (Lebanon)
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You must have a huge army to go to all those countries!
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actually only 6.418 soldiers
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Aktive Soldaten: 250.831
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I meant soldiers in foreign countries
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Regular soldiers don't go to these kinda missions, atleast not in Finland.
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neither in germany, imo it's all voluntary
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What's the use of this shit then? It's not like there's a huge risk of Germany being invaded by Polaks, well at least in the conventional manner anyway.
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Wasting Billion of Euros, due to lobbying and job-creation measures for retards.
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Just shut up if you don't know shit about geopolitics. That's just fucking arrogant behaviour.

There is a reason to have a "believable defense".
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I'm sorry I'm not like Finnish people, always being scared of being invaded by Russia.
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Nothing to do with it, your posts show that you know shit about geopolitics. Just stop posting, you make yourself look like an idiot when you post random comments.
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Please enlighten me.
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So you don't understand the need of peacecorps?
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they wouldn't be a country for that long if they didnt have army :O
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Who would invade Germany?
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i don't know, but there are enough freaks with a control power who can hurt bad :P
they are still lucky though, they are surrounded with allies with armys and are in the un
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you better make a joke out of this if you don't wanna look like a fool. :D

€: stupid joke l@l

and yes, they're in afghanistan atm iirc
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luckily the dutch army is ....... i dont even know what to say about the dutch army, do you even have an army?
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what has the dutch army to do with mistakes germany made? indeed NOTHING gtfo pls
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are you a fucking nerd? or just a FUCKING nerd?
where have i complained about our mistakes? nowhere ...
just said what have you guys done? NOTHING gtfo pls
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ur really that stupid? lol

so because we didnt invade a country we are noobs? thats the most retarted thing ive ever heard
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i havent said so .. i was just asking if you have an army because i never had anything about the dutch army thats all ... and asking me if im stupid doesnt hide your stupidity
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what do you think? -_-'
the fact you dont know it says more about you then about me
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The Federal Republic of Germany didn't do any mistake, it was the Third Reich.
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I thought it was the Weimar Republic's fault for letting the NSDAP come to power in the first place, namely Hindenburgs mistake for not only making Hitler chancellor but also issuing the reichstag fire decree and then signing an enabling act (although it was voted for overwhelmingly in the Reichstag, this was voted for under duress thanks to the SA). These two combined effectively turned their government into a dictatorship.

I wondered how long it would take for somebody to mention world war two in a thread about somebody joining the German army. Nazi Germany was a long time ago, and its the German army hes joining not the Wehrmacht so it was uncalled for RandomCanadian to throw world war two in his face.

I personally think anybody who wants to make a living out of getting shot at is mad, but good luck anyway.
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nice summary - history is one of my main subjects in school and I'm going to write my A-Level in it in march. exactly these themes - Germany 1871-1949.

of course you are right.

very intelligent comment by the way, I'm suprised to see such a thing on crossfire.
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hahaha i know that, im studying history @ university ;)
but i was frustrated about the stupid and kiddy comments made by siqq and randomcanadian ;)


its ridiculous to compare the present germany to the nazi-germany... How can i blame you for someting your grand- or even grandparents did, just no right to do that.
The start of the WW2 had so many causes.. WW1, the gold-standart, new upcoming political movements, germany and italy had actually never ment anything before in the world, germany received only come colonies after 'the scramble of africa' (conferance of berlin(?)organised by von Bismark), Italy actually didnt had any. Germans where feuled with hate against america and ofcourse france... America's strenght and power was rising, europe's decreasing, it was like all things came together and exploded... In my opinion the world, and most off all the western world was looking for a new identity. Hitler was just the spark wich exploded the world.
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i don't think that was actually his point, i assume he was wondering wether the german army has been deployed in for example irak/afghanistan rather than simply training for no reason
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ah okay, my bad then .. afaik german troops are in both metioned countries atm ;)
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german hater!!!
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I don't hate Germans at all! I just don't get the need of joining the army.
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thx. I stay @ home
abi 2011 :P i have some time left ^^
intelligent guys try to prevent conscription since its a fucking waste of time
i'm out of that shit
thats why most intelligent guys get slapped because they are pussys 8D
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it just sucks when you want to start studying and the fucking state wans you with its retarded 3rd world like conscription
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you dont need to go, if you dont want to ...

you also can fail big time at the physical examination
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you have to do civilian service which takes also 9 months when you dont want to go to the army without a good reason :-)
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de zieht nur noch jeden 5ten ein, dunno how to say it on english :o)
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Ye or because the other retards can't win a discussion by using words & arguments
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It was a sarcastic comment if you didnt get it. :o)
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It doesn't look very sarcastic.
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can't see why anybody would join the army except for the salary
guess why im going :DDDD
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why 2 years btw? thought minimum conscription is 4ys
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minimun is 2 years .. afaik :l
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ehm more like, why should any1 join the army cuz of the salary?
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I think there is no way you can fail those tests. you don't have to be intelligent as long as you can follow orders (except you want to be pilot or any other hardcore job).
half of the guys who were there with me got T5 :l
for many different reasons
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It's a shame how much you will earn for such an useless job.
calculate stundenlohn and define useless. (don't say 'there is no war atm')

don't get me wrong, i'm not pro-military, but your statement is a bit pointless
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No, it's not. It's like holiday camp with friends. The first 3 months are a bit harder (even this is more like boy scouts), because of the sports part, followed by doing almost nothing, but chilling around for 1,75 years. 95 % of them won't have any mission in their entire life.

Next to the luxuriant fee and pay-off, you have no costs for maintenance, even your travel costs will be paid, etc etc etc. If we need an army, we should get a professional army, which is better trained and much cheaper, instead of giving all those retards an overpaid, useless job.

Useless, because 80 per cent of the 35.000.000.000 € per year are wasted for 'soldiers', who will never be on any mission. And I bet, siqq will be one of them.

And I didn't even mention the ethical and political side as it would result in a neverending discussion anyway.
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Have you been there? I dont think so.

[german] Ich wurde mit T1 gemustert, und wenn ich verpflichte mich direkt also was sagst du da fürn Scheiß. Typisch Knecht. Tschöö! [/german]
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Wtf are you talking about? Where is the relation?
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exactly, but you know why they keep the conscription? because the whole healthcare system would collapse if they did not.
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because the guys who do civil service are indispensable in todays healthcare system.
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Ah, I thought you are only talking about the military part. Well, nothing against civilian service.
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luxuriant fee:

I don't know what a grundwehrdiener (these are the one's that don't really have a purpose in army) in germany gets, but over here it's something in between 1 and 2 €/hour.

any1 that serves longer than he's forceed to, is actually doing a real job with responsibilities, and I think they're not really being overpaid.

about maintenance:

not sure about germany again, but I'd rather pay for an own flat than being forced to live in a kaserne. the criteria for food : should be brown and warm, maybe even contain some meat and vegetables if you're lucky.

travel costs:

yea, they're hustling around in private jets and stretch limousines.

QuoteNo, it's not. It's like holiday camp with friends. The first 3 months are a bit harder (even this is more like boy scouts), because of the sports part, followed by doing almost nothing, but chilling around for 1,75 years.


...this sort of argumentation is too dumb to argue about, so i'm not going to comment on that :/

and these 35 billions... I don't know much about volkswirtschaft/staatshaushalt nor am I financial analyst (and I guess neither are you) but I think the single purpose of being ready to jump in when needed (e.g. flood catastrophes, there were several of them in germany the last years if i'm not mistaken ) justifies this.
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SIQQ add the GER tag, I wanna reply in German!
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liest doch eh keiner mehr.... :D

€: von den admins mein ich
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tbh, it is a useless job for u guys :P but not for us ^^
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beginning my service in july, 9 moths only, maybe a little bit longer if I don't get a place to study directly.

I failed at skipping the service, but now I think it will be a lifetime experience.

anyway, where is the problem in passing the test?! every idiot could do it.
Hmm, some guys aint "good enough"
or why they get T5 (incapable)
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Lol you aint t5 if you are bad, when you arent good enough you are just t2.
t5 is completly invalid to go to army, like when he you have some serious medical problems or taking drugs, tho you can also get t5 when you got a nice doctor who tells the army that you are aint capable for the service :-)
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Quotewhen you arent good enough you are just t2.

BULLSHIT
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received my erfassungsbrief like 3 months ago and will probably have my medical examination october this year
i will be going for boot camp for about 6 months i think, in 2 years, and then off to army for 3 years, will probably be setted up in gaza imo, or in WW3 @ middle east :D
when ET becomes REALITY ;D
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and i though things will get better be4 i go to army XD
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gl armys cool :)
hope i can use bot there ;)
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T5 & haha junky :-)
why haha? i wanted to go anyways :l
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The UK doesn't have conscription. Though, I've been thinking of joining the TA for a while now.
how you guys recruit for army?
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people go into an army careers office and ask to join :)

http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/Pages/HomePage.aspx
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already done. 10 months...that's the minimum amout of time you have to do here.
2 years???? NOLIFER!!!
I would hate to live in a country were you HAVE to join the army for any period of time, it's a joke.
Please, explain.
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what's to explain? you obviously don't no any different being from Finland, but if that was ever suggested here (it won't be as we're neutral) there would be up roar, and id say the same for the UK to.
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Ehh?! So what I'm Finnish, just asked a simple explanation. Eventhough we only have few choices I can understand your point of view too. I'm not a warfanatic but still I cladly serve my time.
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thats only an opinion of course :P
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Army makes u tuff
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