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22 Jan 2009, 23:11
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A new clan set up by me. To show support to them, and claim what they do is good and they are not wrong by doing it.
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=clan&mode=item&id=4847
PM for invite. =)
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=clan&mode=item&id=4847
PM for invite. =)
fucking jews.
hARRIS on 22/01/09, 23:14:44 PM | Reply
dont be a fucking scum then.
This journal wasn't even meant to be a debate of some sorts.
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k, got it now :D:D:D:D:D LOL
Oh please, everyone nowadays is treating Palestinians like poor little babies. "Oh Israel kills children in Gaza"
Hamas would do the same if they had at least as accurate weaponry as Israel does. If you don't want your people to be killed, don't keep shooting rockets. Let's have a lame comparison.
Let's say the Hamas weaponry is a mosquito, and the Israel weaponry is a person. Oh the mosquito keeps sucking the person's blood, but the person will try to kill the mosquito, even though it's soooo much bigger.
so your weapons are accurate and the Israelis actually go for targets like that? and the radicals firing rockets are worth killing children mothers and grandmas for?
tard
The Israeli media is even more manipulative than the US were right after 9/11.
but isearli is more retarded because they use their possibilities with the military shit there...
since when is killing people good
X country will attack Z for a long age with the reason, "they took my nature resources", Z will attack them back ofcourse, and noone will say a thing.
but watch this situation
Y organization take over the X country, and they are using them to attack Z, Z will try to kill all the Y members, after 8 years of getting bombed.
how do you want to defend Z's citizens, without damage X?
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=clan&mode=item&id=3808
Why do you give a statement "killing people is nice" with approving the existence of Israel?
Less media hype and populism, more brain using.
And why is policy misplaced on a community? Policy is all what surrounds us and even affects gaming itself, e.g. Germany's age restriction.
At least, any time soon.
I have stated a few times on crossfire that I also don't agree to the current actions of Israel, but the Palestinian side isn't better in any way. So this pro Palestine hype is so ridiculous.
who benefits from you killing all the people in gaza?
As if the hamas wouldn't be tyrants.
you're clearly not liked very much
sorry for my english
You have been reading to much extreme-right propaganda. These kind of stories are purely written to create some kind of fear in the population so the people would vote for them.
And your remark is just the same remark that the native americans used against the blacks and the hispanics in the US. And look now, most black people and hispanics are integrated in the american society and in 20/30 years racism won't even be a issue in the US. The new generation who grow up in the US or Europe take the values and norms of the country they live in. Just look at the US. The persons of the 2nd generation can be black or white but u see that they have the same values as the americans. They are influenced by western media, newspapers, people,... so the next generation will be as much american or european as the other people in the country. And if you are muslim or christian, who cares? Besides that, they only take 2/3/4/5% in most countries (except France and the Netherlands)
Reading your comment thinks me of the same kind of people who think all muslims are terrorists. Off course they are, right?
3%-4% (Germany, Sweden, Serbia)
4%-5% (Belgium, Austria, Switzerland)
5%-10% (Netherlands, France)
10%-20% (Russia, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Cyprus)
maybe your are right, its not huge numbers right now, i mean, ONLY 5.5 millions arabs at Germany
but watch this page:
http://muslim-canada.org/muslimstats.html
listen, "Not every muslem is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a muslem"
i cant find the muslims born ratio, your lucky day..
And countries like Bulgaria and Montenegro and a few other countries in the Balkan have always had a huge muslim population so 'invading' those countries is totally wrong. For decades there are lots of muslims there and they are integrated. It's not because there are muslims in the Balkan that they are extremists and against christianity. I have lived in Turkey for 6 months (muslim country) and the turkish are one of the most friendly people I've met, much more friendly then Greek people or anywhere I've been. Not 1 time did I saw a potential terrorist who wants to kill every non-muslim.
And only the extreme muslims want all other non-muslims dead. You have this in christianity too. Skinheads (ok not a religion but still a group of people with same values), the rednecks in the US are against muslims and black people too but it doesn't mean that everybody in the US or Europe hate muslims or black people.
It's all about integration. People who feel accepted (muslim or not) will contribute to society and accept and adapt to the values of the country they live in. And if they don't, after a while they will anyway because of the influence of newspapers, TV, other people, etc... The 2nd generation will be American (if they live in US) just like all the other Americans, muslim or not.
And again those predictions is to create a debate or fear if it comes from extreme-right parties. It's the same with global warming. At 2100 the world will be 6° hotter. It's a prediction but do u believe it or do u think it will happen? Just the same bullshit stories.
that means shit tbh, my father spoke to many turks when he was in holidays there and the turks in turkey hate the turks in germany
you cant compare a culture in it's natural place and the same culture in a country outside this natural place
you cant compare a culture in it's natural place and the same culture in a country outside this natural place "
Well that actually is true. I spoke with many turkish people and they told me that several decades ago only the low skilled and poor people (so more crime etc...)came to western countries whereas in the US immigrants were mostly high skilled. And yes the turkish admit that the turkish in Germany or Belgium are much worse then the turkish in Turkey and from my experience it's certainly true too.
That's a pretty shitty generalisation. ^^
Btw:
You should rather speak of muslims and there are 'only' 3.3 millions.
Projections are worth shit.
How are we defining Muslim? - a follower of islam(doesn't need to be necessarily religious)
Does it consider that a developed countries birth rate is generally lower than the rest of the world? - if it doesnt, the prediction would be even worse
Does it consider inter-racial/religious marriage? - it's a minor argument, doesnt change the predictions as a whole
but well, i have to admit, predictions are often very unprecise, we cant know wether the birth rate of muslims increases, stays on the same level or decreases and we can't know how migration will change with economic disasters to come
sry for that somehow shitty english today.
And the fact that the 1st statistic comes from the"German Central Institute Islam Archive" make me even doubt those numbers because they have all interest to make it larger then reality so they get a bigger voice and more attention from the politic parties etc...
And again predictions are just predictions. Just read my other replies. They also say that the earth will be 6° hotter in 2100, that's a prediction too, but will it happen?? I highly doubt it. The same with energy. One prediciton says that the import of Russian gas will rise highly in the next 20 years and that we will be too dependant on Russian gas. But other predictions say that renewable energy will be 20 or 30% in 2020 or 2030 and other predictions say that Nuclear energy will be the future and other predictions say that because of being more efficient we will use much less energy in the future. It are predicitons and it's just that. U don't have to believe it will happen. And even if it does they will be europeans (at least from 2nd generation) just like the rest of us because of media, etc... blablabla see my other reply to blitzz
it's an institute founded and lead by muslims.
highly doubt it, since we got already the 3rd generation in germany and it seems to become even worse(i want to note that i dont say it's entirely their fault, mostly it's a problem of education and loosing one's roots).
and btw, you cant compare economic to demographic predictions
A question, if, as that statistic points out, the European birth rate is going to decline, in what way is it a bad thing that the non-indigenous population will increase? It’s a requirement to sustain a growing economy… (and pay our pensions !!)
Why does an increasing Muslim population scare you? What reason, beyond the hardline zealots [whom I wouldn’t consider a true representation of over a billion people ], have they offered to make you fear them?
To point it out, I have nothing against immigration as well because of the reasons you just mentioned. But it's happening to fast nowadays, with a low percentage of another culture in your country you're able to 'assimilate' or for my sake integrate them and behold the upper hand. That's just not possible anymore, Imo. I'm fearing of the consequences to come from either side.
I just recognized that I've answered your second question already.
If its an economic or demographic prediction, it doesn't matter because it's irrelevant in this case. I was only pointing out that you can predict anything with some numbers and statistics but they still don't mean much. That's why I used those examples (energy example for instance), to show u that it can go all sides, especially if we talk about 20 or 30 year in the future.
In the energy case, it can happen something unforeseen, an unexpected turn in science or the discovery of a new gigantic field of oil, while in the demographic case the prediction is relatively(!) precise because I don't know what should happen to prevent it of becoming true.
it seems no worse to me than being pro white and wanting to wipe out all the black people from the UK, because black people are more likely to commit crime (which is a fact btw, although the opinion is not one i agree with, i understand there's good and bad in everyone.) I can guarantee i'd be banned in 10 seconds flat.
And i dont belive the palestine people really support hamas anymore but again they cant speak out against them
On the other hand I expected many more people on that list so my faith is at least a bit more restored in the average xfire member.