CB Ladder Activity Suggestion
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31 Jan 2009, 13:19
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We need your help again, so spray suggestions that could increase the ladder activity again, like some interesting things (example: 1on1 strafe ladder(like speedcups))
NA ladder should be added in some weeks too. Why don't we play ladder matches that much anymore? Same Maplist? Lazy to challenge/accept? Other?
Crossfire FA Cup: signups = 64
"the 64 teams will be chosen according to the top 64 clans of the 6on6 cb ladder"
seems like a good idea, hits 2 birds with one stone, altough ppl might whine if they dont get chosen :p
anyway, I think the ladder system sucks somehow. When we used to play the ladder games regularly, I challenged some clan for each day like a month before hand. And still we were able to get like 2 games accepted in a week. So it was very frustrating to get the offis needed.
Maybe u could apply some kind of football system and play the ladder in seasons, letting each team play as many games and basically vs everyone. Dunno if that could work also in ET (but u might also have different leagues, like premier, 2nd etc)... might be worth a try :)
most clans can't be arsed to wait 2 days before they can play a match. look at the one day cups on sunday. its filled with team. cause they can play right after signing up.
i ones tried to find wars on CB it so fucking retarded if you challenge 10 teams and only 1 reply's back. things like this make teams more eager to find matches in 6on6.et and care about e-points!
ps.im making "speed" map :PP u can add it to mappool then when its ready
got an estimated release yet?
i will pm u then
Maplist:
* adlernest
* bremen_b2
* radar
* supply
* sw_goldrush_te
or just change it always to same with the major tournaments which are going on. so just wait till they announce the maplists to cc6, et masters and ec(?) then you can do it!
ET should be the same :S:S
challenging is easy enough and the ladder system is superior to the one in esl.. it's not like it actually matters whether you win or loose..it's just a game. I just liked the extra little tension that you don't have during pracs.
and yes, I played around 30-40 officials per month :o)
would be nice if you could increase the usage of open challenges. it's a nice add-on but it's hardly ever used. searching offis via mIRC can be rather annoying at times.
hype the open challenge its a nice feature but nobody uses it.
Add some prices for being on top of the 6o6 ladder for X amount of time,
change the maplist a bit (delivery in).
Cups for the teams in the top X of the ladder.
Make some advertisement every day, week, w/e, with what teams played and the results.
Some more admins for the ladders.
Espescially advertisement should do it good. If you hype the ladders and stuff
by doing advertisement people will start to play it.
I think the CB system isn't working properly for ET. The tournaments should be influenced by ladders and reversed. An example: The Eurocup should (just as it has the winner of OC 1) have the leader in the ladder directly invited. Or even better the first 3. That means that more top teams should play a qualifier and if they don't want to play qualifier they should play the ladder.
This is just one example, but there are more examples.
it seems like most teams are afraid of loosing points and therefore e-penis which they can afford to loose in "just" praccs. I totally agree with nugis "it's not like it actually matters whether you win or loose..it's just a game. I just liked the extra little tension that you don't have during pracs."
@ KILLREBOI
Maybe make some GUIDE for CB teams how to join ladders and challange teams (it's easy but...), find opponents etc, then make it sticky other news/forum post + add some team names who agree to play/be challanged on ladder
:DD
ClanBase should make something like "Most matches in (month)" as well. Most active clan gets a server for 3 months, runner-up - 2 months, 3rd - 1 month.
Also the best team in the ladder should get the server as well and be forced to play at least 1 match per week. And should be called 'King of the hill' :-D.
by doing this you get the most active teams in EC, and not the teams with the most very well known names.
polish new talents 1 to 16 will be playing EC then :>
Every EC we get new teams formed, remember the 14 months were idle sticked together and didn't lose any CB/ESL offi? We need to have TEAMS playing in EC not some random mixes with some random finnish highskillers in it to be able to preform.
And yes EC should have the best teams, but the best teams aren't always the teams with the big names who never pracc and just want to play EC to get an even bigger e-penis.
If there was a rule that you can only challenge clans that are ranked higher or max 5-10 places below you then it should work fine. Every body start with 0 point (not 1000) and you got to work your way up if you are a new clan.
And if you challenge the clan standing first then you got to beat them twice like winner/lower-bracket stuff.
And I don't see the point in random mixes playing EC! let teams proof their self before even being allowed to play EC. (now you just got the get 6 EC players from last EC in one team and you get atleast a qualifier sometimes even a direct invite :S)
then you got your praccs, you show that your active, and by being in the top of the ladder you show that you are EC worthy.
And being almost forced to play ladders to be in the EC will also let the teams stick together for a longer period of time imo.
But I guess most ego's in Ec are too high to work their way up in the ladder, because "we played EC ffs we don't play noobs we own we are better" just proof it then ffs.
If you can't prove ur better then some no life polaks ur not EC worthy to me.
2. beating 20 noob teams a week would make you top3 for sure and you wouldnt have to be more than low+
3. there is nothing to win in cb so there is no need to prac for it
4. even if a team with really good players doesnt play a single prac they can still win ec so why the fuck would they waste 5 days a week?
there are way too less teams in et to make a competition in ladders, there would have to be like 15 teams on atleast a bit of the same level. and well ye, it may sounds arrogant or something but playing a low team with a high team is the most boring thing you can do
these newbs just dont get it :D
if you don't like to play this game, don't play EC also... And yes playing vs lower skilled teams isn't fun but when being number one in the ladder and only able to challenge the 5-10 teams bellow you you aint playing low+ only teams. Well maybe sometime sif you egt challenged by the last one in the ladder, but just bash them or take a shit and let the other 5 play vs them.
And when I played you (TR vs Epsilon #evo.cup) it didn't seem like you were bored, ofc you guys weren't playing serious but it still wasn't like you could just stand stil and still win. (and TR was a low+ team)
Haven't seen a team do that... Except SKIT-EVIL. They had like 150 ladder matches and they eventually got really good and got into EC. So chop-chop, go to work meight.
Best quote in this topic so far !
and these random mixes for EC are always better than most of the clans
Edit: better idea would be to give direct/quali invites to about top3 (or top5 if ladder would be a lot more active) ladder teams.
and the other direct invited can gtfo, just a qualifier for the rest of the teams to let them proof they have actualy pracced (or are just better then most teams)
ladder restarts every 3(?) Month and the first in the ladder get into a seeding cup with smaller prizes.
edit or first 3 get a place in OC premier or smth...
e: that would definetly be worth playing the ladder...
change it
http://clanbase.ggl.com/claninfo.php?cid=613334&calendar=1
-use email notifications with fucking more frequency(in the day of the war its shit since noone will appear unless they took serious training for that war or they arranged it)
-allowing all competitive maps on the same maplist would be nice for many reasons(since each team pick a map --for instance pussys that choose sw_oasis or sw_battery wouldnt have no reason not to play + it would be more diversified and less boring (since everyone play supply or braundorf) (the only negative point on this would be level of skill of a team for all maps but fuck it we just care about having fun so it would be) )
* battery
* braundorf_b4
* bremen_b2
* frostbite
* radar
* supply
* sw_goldrush_te
maybe because its not as active..?
And delete all clans who played less matches than 1 the last 30 days. I prefer a Ladder with 20 clans over a Ladder with 60 clans but where you have to shift through 40 inactive teams to find a scrim. That's imo one of the reasons not so many teams sign up for it now, because there are so many inactive teams on it.
check that green box next to the clans name @ ladder page to play the most active clans
if im gonna play a 2on2 or 3on3 we will always look for offi if we have players that are in our team at cb
theres not many teams playing ladders but those that are, are really active usually
its much more fun to play 3on3 offi than some random prac
¬ change maplist , make some polls about it
¬ give prizes to best 5 teams
more "good" clans in
and make it more fun.. like.. for every won match, team will get one of serie of strip pictures :D I mean.. smth to battle for.. it doesnt have to be money, server or anything.. just smth to battle for..
For example:
4 teams/group.
premier league,second, third and stuff and there is possibility to relegation and get up to a higher league. Every nation has it's own competition and than u can play in europe like Uefa or CL :>
But probably it's hard to create something like this :(
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=71372
& barti promised to edit the map pool afther the OC :\
- ban all those random 1-day-cups hosted by retards
* battery
* braundorf_b4
* bremen_b2
* frostbite
* radar
* supply
* sw_goldrush_te
if the maplist is this one above, i understand quite well why the ladder is inactive :DD