Geert Wilders @ O'reilly show

Hi faggots,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OpzKUgxbeo

If you dunno Geert Wilders or his movie Fitna you better check out this link first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgQdZgojOFI

After watching the interview i gotta agree that europe is throwing away its identity. We are appeasing to Islam, giving up our own values and believes, dreaming of a multicultural society where people dont share values, a society without bindings, without a common soul.

I got the same problem with Jews. After getting pwned in the shoa they are doing the same thing to the palestines. Theres truely no religion which is more elitists - fascist than jews, well they are gods chosen ppl after all. (unless you are chassidic, then ur even better. you are gods chosen people amongst teh chosen people) You cant start generalizing about all jews ofc, but as a religion and as a state they are just so 1940: we are better then the other guys who aint like us. (trust me all european countries had this attitude back then, even the allied)

To sum it up in one sentence:
Why would we throw away our values and believes? Because we think all people and religions are equal? Why on God's earth should we think so less of our own identity as europeans an why are we willing to give it up that easily?

So i was liek dunno lol wat's the average xfire oppinion? :D

yours truely,
evirdre

ps: wilders is right, europeans are cowards.
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Without religions there wouldn't be war.

e: You might get some racist answers on this journal but I agree with you. Its just bullshit to build up Moskee's and stuff for those who live in this country's. Its simply BULLSHIT that a plaincrash which got 130 Turkish people on board deserves more attention than a turk killing a dutch guy in his own house while the police are outside listening to him screaming -.

but yeah, thats just me
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Just editted.
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there would still be wars even if 'religions' were all to disappear out of the blue
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probably, but you can't deny our history would look a lot different without religion

saying all war would disappear is fictitious, but religion has been the prime culprit for some of the worlds most violent wars
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You don't think there'd just be a substitute?
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Yeah Kosovo, Georgia, Iraq... those where all due to religion.

Without money / human nature / oil / land / nationalism / greed / power etc [erase to select]
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I agree on some points but that O'reily guy is so frigging narrowminded about everything going on in Europe. And wilders just agrees with him on everything.

He also talked to Glenn beck:

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/412441/c90377d6/wilders_praat_met_glenn_beck.html
O'Reilly is a perfect example of republican retardedness indeed :)
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Geert Wilders is a fucking retard. Says that the islam is pure evil :s.
The Koran is almost the same as the Bible. But in every religion
there are extremists who take it the wrong way and give such a
negative imago to it.
When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!

why do i have a feeling that this things are fake? :/
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You'r skipping past the discussion. Im not commenting on fitna the movie. Im saying we, Europe, are giving up our own identity, values, believes, call it whatever you want.

(Western) European people are raised with the believe that all are equal, up to a point where you cant force immigrants in Belgium to learn our own language. This is prolly sounds weird from an anglosaxon pov, as everyone learns english. They dont learn flemish. Even if thats what people need to get a job over here.

I respect every culture and I believe everyone is entitled to their own identity but if you want to have a society, you gonna need some shared values and believes. Man and women being equal is a flemish value, but it isnt shared by most of the immigrants.

I guess the point is: are we willing to sacrifice values like those? Sacrifice is prolly a wrong word to put it, are we allowing ppl to come live in our society without acknowledging our believes? Melting pots are easy if you are the worlds leading culture, it aint on the old continent :)

The usa is definitly affected by hispanic and afro american culture, but at its root its a white anglosaxon culture. You (yes you too irish punk) arent giving up your identity.
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What are these values?

We're out to serve ourselves... "There’s no such thing as society"
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why do i even bother trying to explain this to any anglosaxon. ur so stuck with ur head in the ground, cause the whole world speaks your language and watches your movies :)

Differences in values?
1215 ad + 1778 ad + some enlightment + wwII
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My head in the ground to what? You don't think we have the very same debate about the integration of Islam in Britain every day? Vitriol spouted about migrants learning English? We're on the verge of [sadly] electing our first racist/nationalist MEP - the hate is very real here.

Don't fall into the trap of assuming ignorance due to us being at opposite ends of the spectrum.
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Got me there. I just cant agree on you minimizing values, as if its some overrated detail :)
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But you won't explain those values ^^ won't learn the language & ?

Sooner Europe adopts English as the continents language the better it'll be (: very least save millions on EU docs...
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I think you're confusing things though.

QuoteIm saying we, Europe, are giving up our own identity, values, believes, call it whatever you want.


Are you suggesting that we, as Europeans, have a homogenous identity - complete with shared values and beliefs? This is clearly not the case.

Quote(Western) European people are raised with the believe that all are equal


Are they? I would have thought you'd be more inclined to finding people raised in that way in Soviet Russia - or under any other oppressive regime.

QuoteI respect every culture and I believe everyone is entitled to their own identity but if you want to have a society, you gonna need some shared values and believes.


QuoteI guess the point is: are we willing to sacrifice values like those? Sacrifice is prolly a wrong word to put it, are we allowing ppl to come live in our society without acknowledging our believes?


I can see what you're trying to say, but I don't think you're approaching it the right way. Ultimately, people do not have regional, national or continental idendities - everyone is different. Assuming that's the case, the most logical solution would be to give every person the freedom to do or say as they please, so long as their freedom to do so does not encroach on the next person's freedom to do the same.
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Dunno why people get so caught up with this bullcrap, since it doesn't concern us at all.
GOD DOESNT EXIST

grow up
doesn't work like that. People believe because others believe.
They act as if it's a goddamned lottery.
Hey If I enter the lottery I might just win money, if not then no harm right?
Hey I just act as if there is a god and try to live like a bible freak and I might just go to heaven? What does it matter if we're wrong! If you're wrong you're going to hell!
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Nah I wouldn't say because others do, but because others did.
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i dont care what people believe in :)

is hell virtual? like a video game?
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more than half of islamic word has an IQ of rat or cockroach...so you cant do miracles and convince ppl that they are doing the wrong thing.

anyway im an atheist (since 13 when I show "the finger" to the priest, coz he was forcing us to write tests) so i dont rly care what they are doing, untill they will plant a bomb near me.
when did O'Reilly get out of Oz???????
Mass transit has created a more interlinked, more mobile world - the sooner people accept they're part of a world society, not a national - the sooner we can throw off the shackles of division & improve life the world over.

"Think global act local" is a climate change phrase, but it can be applied to this - your society is what you make it, not who you hate - or what others do.
O'Reilly and Wilders are both retards, nothing more to say.
wow a retard has a retard on his show

gb2digg jesus fuck
gb2 to being a weaboo
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It's all very simple.. religions are fairy tales used to giving right to certain people for powerfull positions; social, political but also financial. Not literally, but at the end it certainly points to this. Jews, Christianity, Islam, all are bullshit. Religion maked society fall back 1000 years in time after the Roman empire ended. Only high civilizations were Maya, Inca, Old Greeks + Romans, Persians, Egyptians.. others can gtfo lowtards :D Btw Buddhism is good, only that's a way of life no religion.
lol i love it the way it is, the more people from around the world the more interesting it gets :D, party on people.. i dont mind people like wilders and o reilly either, and this whole drama, love it.. haha its just more fun isnt it? ^^
blabla o'reilly
you made a point but NEVER involve wilders to back up your point,he is a fucking joke!
Geert Wilder New Nazi Leader?
lol people who say this, so including you, seem to have COMPLETELY missed the ground basics of his party, or you just didn't read about it and decided to say something that makes you look popular.
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Those are conclusions you make. Because i actually follow the dutch party's since i legally have the right to vote for an party asap.

I actually agree with him in some points but i dont agree with the economic facts hes been pointing out. The foreign people came way before the crime number rised in "the netherlands". They helped build NL and he forgets that.
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True.. although currently the percentage criminals under the non-western immigrants is a lot higher then under the Dutch people. I also don't agree with the way Wilders is approaching it.. although it's better than most others, because they just send some social workers that won't help for a bit, in stead of changing laws etc.. anyway my point was that you called him a new Nazi-leader, which is bullocks.
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xD it was more like a comment that was pointed on the useless topic.

Although i do get their points, more and more the foreign people are in useless fights giving making the streets unsafe. Governments wont do anything for our own people's sake. Do it fast and hard or slow and be overgrown by them.
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