Why are we still using PB?

1. It gives me so much fucking lag that I don't have on a server without PB
2. I've never seen anyone getting kicked by PB in a clanwar on a private server
3. If you just are carefull against who you're playing and you check out who your enemies are, then you know if they could be possible cheaters or not.
4. You can always install anti-pro (or isn't that possible yet?)

anyway, we need to get rid off that shit as soon as possible cause it gives alot of players lag that they shouldn't have. Players should be deleting it from their servers and should install anti-pro instead (or anti-pro should make that possible asap if that ain't possible yet, I dunno).

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Fostrum & Nohead won't be happy with this journal
when can we expect to start switching to antipro? :|

November? December?
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i don't know, only foxdie knows as he is coding, maybe shizo might know aswell
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shizo doesnt know it, i asked him several days ago.
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ow im very happy for the pb laggers. switching to wolf anyway

you can stop your hate now. thx
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i heard you and nohead got banned from antiproservers and intolerant is barred from playing next season OC / EC

gl in wolf, we will missed you
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they got busted by anti-pro? proofs?
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I know you will.
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This is the part where you start denying.
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I don't get the thing around nohead and cheating :S Oke, he proved in the past he's capable of, but 2 yrs after his ban he played at CC6 and at the same level he was playing online. Didn't spec any matches of him lately, but I doubt he's cheating since his aim was always good, he just had 3v3 rambo brains and couldn't rly compete in a 6v6 game. Can be he got some gamesense now (since he was seeking a 6v6 clan right after CC6 and got one pretty fast).

He even wanted me to see him play at his own PC before we went to CC6 (because half of the team was thinking he was going to dodge the lan), and I did since he offered to pick me up at home and to bring me back when he was done playing.
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I dont know what you mean . all i know is when i cant play this game anymore i quit gaming .
I dont care if its PB or Any other stuff . i am clean, i have nothing to hide. if you want to bust me or whatever i allow you. I respeckt your effort in all those busts And avi's. GL in the future .
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agree, without pb i would be like mAus
But what would mAus be like if he plays without pb ;)
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where iz antipr0?
coz anti-pro is like DUKE NUKEN FOREVER
Didn't you quit ET like months and months ago?
I didn't play anymore since NC but started playing again yesterday :)
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you are a weak person my man.
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He needs to be at his highest level for the tomateplukkerslan.
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always in beta..never in final.
since those stupid pb lags i really cant play shit,so yes, i totally agree with u
i just wantz my old et back :<
do you really think without your shit internetlaggs and pb laggs you'd be uberskilled? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD <3
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ofcourse sexy <3
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eenie meany miney mo catch a [afro-american] by his toe :D
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th3h3h3h3h33h enjoy your warnings.
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Need OC with AntiPro!
good question idd.nothing's like it used to be in this game
GOD BLESS YOU
retard -.-' nothing else to add
pfffffffff

i was dissing PB before it was even cool
i was dissing PB before you were born
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Man, Meez you are so mainstream with your PB whine.
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damn newfags
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Well, just play in a server w/o pb, usually i play in a server w/o PB with .ee m8's i know.
So smooth and najjjs !: )
You never play smooth, liar!
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: SSS, yes i do, even had 60 ping there! : DD
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kus serveris sa mängid veel :D? Pole ET-d kaua aega avanud. tahaks ka ilmselt suht normaalsemas kohas pelada.
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claimi serveril pole pb'd peal, ja seal 3on3me lasta on täitsa vahva : )
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without PB , everyone will start cheating ... they just should fix that lag ..
yes and they should make banana's straight, so women can easilier masturbate with them
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hear women complaining about bananas often?
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not often, but some like to push 'm deeper than others.. just like you got uber pc's and crappy ones
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like ET is cheat-clean now -.-
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ohh, with PB is isn't clean.. so who cares, lets just throw PB out.. how naive :D
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didn't say that, did I?

You're suggesting that PB stops players from cheating, which is bullshit obviously.

The people that actually fear to get busted, are the people that probably won't cheat without PB, the people that have heart for the game etc.

Disabling PB & banning the entire PL subnet will stop more cheaters & give more gamepleasure then having PB enabled.
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"You're suggesting that PB stops players from cheating, which is bullshit obviously."

You know what is obvious about PB? The number of banns they still get on the MBI every day.
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but does it stop people from cheating?
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does enprisonment stop people from committing crimes when they're released?
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and the number of bans mainly comes from the jaymod, NQ, etpub part of the game and some of the cheaters that have been banned like 30 times before on etpro
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because antipro isnt released yet =/
i'd play with the beta version also omg ...
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the problem is there could still be some bugs and people would be kicked by accident
so you couldnt depend on it
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Agree! Program that makes more problems then good... has to go :D
spiroze dont think so much :D
no lags here , must be myth

get decent connection.
Because there's nobody worthwhile / trusted like Adacore, angrykid or Cash to take the lead.
you can put yourself on the level with everyone but those
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so, take the lead and remove pb !
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+1 if guys cheat they can do it with pb also so why the fuck its still in use :o
I miss ET the way it was supposed to be played :(
you mean N E X U S 3 way? :D
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I love that public man xD
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noticed you were there last couple of days as well ;)
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great server.
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affirmative!
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It's impressive how ignorant people can be.

Ye remove PunkBuster and tell me how you are going to catch people cheating, it might be shit and not detect private cheats but atleast it detects all the good old cheats and the latest pub cheats, and gives some cheaters the reason to be afraid. Remove PunkBuster and you will have the "humanized aimbot war" who tunes it the best.

Icebot, cracked etbots, bimbots, nexus,wallhacks, damage removal knockback hacks, spoofers, rivatuners will be back again.

There are so many kids which need to test out and use cheats as soon as they are undetected, imagine what cheating spree and paranoia there be in ET, obviously this is for the low to med/+ scene. Cheating in med+/high scene will depend on how mature the gamers are and their reputation.
+1 never had problems with pb =p and love my high fps :D
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They just need to update their PC, i used to run ET with an old pc, 50 fps on radar ~100 on other maps, lagging all the time, fps drops every few seconds, bought new pc, installed vista, 125 fps constant, pbss won't effect me (vista = black pbss) = win, it's time to update your pc's boys.
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Even with my old pc i didn't had problems, but the most whine about fps lags come from guys with stownage pc's. Honestly it's retarded to blame pb for a problem which can get solve by themself.
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Quoteimagine what cheating spree and paranoia there be in
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Seriously... :D I kinda lold - are we talking bout ET?
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Well what i meant is, what would stop the med/+ skillers who want to play in the high skilled scene from cheating? Everyone knows you can't do much with a demo unless it is set to rage settings.
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but a "cheating spree" and a "paranoia" is already here, and it's massive, it's incredbile and that's why admins (you?) already ban by avis eventhough some aren't fully proved (you :d)?
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I haven't banned for a demo in ages :/
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this doesnt mean u already have
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Maybe for a weekend, week at most as people see for the hell – but beyond that?

If you wanted to use cheats you’d use them now, there’s literally nothing stopping you. So if you’re not using them now – why would you in the future?

Did I not violently rape that cute blonde in the tight jeans and low cut top the other night because I feared being caught, or because I just wouldn’t?
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"If you wanted to use cheats you’d use them now, there’s literally nothing stopping you."

Some people are stuck between a dilemma, to cheat or not to cheat? 50% of his conscious is telling him he shouldn't while the other half tells him he should cheat. Why won't he cheat now? PunkBuster detects most of the cheats, most of them are detected, he knows that if he finds an undetect public cheat, he can use it but he knows in the long run it will get detected (becuase it's free and it's public) and he will get caught, removing PB will encourage all these guys to cheat now, and i'm sure there are many people with that dilemma.

This is for public cheats only though, if you are certain you want to cheat you will, first with a public hack or if you don't want to get caught that easily or you don't want to your heartbeat to stop everytime you lag out or get kicked by pb thinking "will it be a multihack violation kick or just a game integrity failure kick?" then he will end up buying private cheats.
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obviously the fear of getting caught ;)
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Hmm there's one at the gym with a butt I'd consider going down for :v
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Seriously who wouldn't have raped her if it weren't the fear of getting caught?
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See I’m not a backward third world fuck
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raping is normal. Cheating isnt.
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i agree with you in some way, but just think about the cheater festival without pb :(
I don't have any lag with PB. Your PC's are just too shit!

Without PB everyone becomes unhittable for me.
well since i got new pc i dont get any lags whatsoever...but when i had shit pc i got pb lags...so get new pc nub and lags will go away
XD Lets all buy a new pc fuck yeah XD
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it's pretty easy to say if someone is haxing vs u or not (and if u can't say it eventhough he is haxing, who cares because then his hax suck).

So yeah, let's get rid off pb
totally agree with that, that's exactly what I mean :)
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I have an idea! Let's make something new that just spams "cheaterbuster is streaming" once a war. It should only do this and we can make some propaganda that it catches every cheat possible. WIN WIN : cheaters are scared to get busted and we don't have lag anymore!

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i dont have any pb lags , sorry
esports heaven cup doesnt have pb
and that cup is aiming at the player base? :p
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what do you mean?
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Well this is the Roster if im not mistaken:

http://www.esportsheaven.net/?page=tournament&action=view&tournament_id=7&content_id=18

So i don't see why you would mention that cup in a journal which is aiming to get a wider player base to play without PB.

Of course it's a first step but thats just cause alle the teams and players playing there are probably clean and known for sime time know. So it does not have anything to do with CB ladders or something.

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i don't care about the lags every now and then (look at risee's post same reason for me) but i just wanted to point out: that cup is not a good example for a broader player base.
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Since 2 months pb is awfull with my computer.... Freeze+ fps drop.
no things will only get worse without pb.
on the other hand then i can use some no-knockback script, would be fucking awesome!!
nah seriously, i rather have a short lag every 3 minutes than having no protection at all. even though pb doesn't catch most private cheaters, in combination with gv/pbbans it caught people like grzesiek / sexclick / tetsuo and lots of others.
wow there are so much comments in here... why my threads never get so much of those useless and stupid comments?
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deleted them, becouse there were only 4-10 Comments :)
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then you probably just didn't get to a topic where people were able to flame without thinking ... on the other hand... thats always possible so i have no idea :D
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yes thats what needs to be done

so you can also play Wolfenstein
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with pb i dont have any lags.. i've seen kicks cause of that + hax. nothing to complain :):):9
i have lagspikes and 30 fps with this pb shit , remove it asap
well, u gotta give credit to foxdie for trying to help the ET community
lets just hope its a success :)
I bought a new pc with quad core etc and theres like 0 lags regarding pb. People should do the same
yeah right lets go out and buy some stuff we dont need hell yeah !
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Guess ur @ Vista or w7 now ?? Probably most of the lag is only on XP oO

But still, we should always upgrade our pc's for a game that isn't even updating, while the anticheat tool we're using in this game is, but not even effective :X
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IT ROCKS!!!
NOT
FUCKING PATHETIC NERDS WHINING ALWAYS ABOUT THIS PB-LAG!

I CANT NOTICE ANY LAG WHEN I'M PLAYING ON PB-SERVER!

PLZ PATHETIC NERDS NOW STFU AND JUST PLAY! SERIOUS NERDS FUCKING ANGRY PLZ -,-

Get life
finally someone who dares to say the truth! keep it up m8!
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Keep your dick up fag :)
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i hope to, that anti pro is soon public... want to play wars with anti pro!
+1 this game sucked always but with pb nowdays its even moooar shit!
because schalke 04 is sponsoring it.
wolfpro still has some bugs i guess

but: http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=news&mode=item&id=4599
cool, if you throw out pb, people would be able to play with icebot etc.. again :D
That would be like 4-5y ago now.. :D
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