CC7 5v5
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24 Sep 2009, 09:22
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OK, we were planning to again attend CC tournament...
But what the hell 5on5 ??
Tosspot stated that he "discussed" it.. But i think its a lie as there is like 80% negative replies..
So are you for or against 5v5 ?
Im against !
But what the hell 5on5 ??
Tosspot stated that he "discussed" it.. But i think its a lie as there is like 80% negative replies..
So are you for or against 5v5 ?
Im against !
Almost every cup and tournament is 6o6 and the upcoming OC and EC are 6o6 too, so it's kinda weird to go 5o5 all of the sudden, just for the LAN.
The biggest online league just changed from 6on6 to 5on5, was it right?
Yes - 5on5 is the future:
0.2%
(2 votes)
No - Bad Decision:
28.6%
(343 votes)
Undecided/Dont Mind:
58.6%
(703 votes)
lulz
Nahh.. I don't know - if it's really easier organizing, then it's ok.
But the gameplay is just better in 6v6 :<
The less players, the more aim you'll need.. Which makes the less skilled clans chanceless.
makes the game more compatible on lans(due to pc setups)
makes it more like rtcw(if rifle is taken out) which will result in more closerange maps and good teamplay
not.
yes.
the mappool should be changed for maps that are closed: braundorf frostbite ice ... they are good for less players as one guy can take 2-3 opponents with easy, using wonderfull lean function
You just lack the ability to move whole defense as fluently as in 6on6... the all one route attacks are always successful, because they create a gap in your defence...
Prolly you will jump out with 3o3 argument, but you dont play 3o3 so dont dare to talk about it...
Strange, I haven't seen you in that ladder ;=d.
"You just lack the ability to move whole defense as fluently as in 6on6"
Hmm, I thought it's easier to move 5 players than the 6 ones. You don't know what you are talking about :D.
ye you move 5 guys, and create a gap that will be used by enemy... Because the map is too big to be covered by 5 guys playing against 5 guys..
We were first.
http://clanbase.ggl.com/ladder_hof.php?lid=2772
the defending in ET is about covering pathes to the objective... ergo - defense is static... While attackers move all the time using diferent routes... You cant cover equally current maps with 5 guys without weakning another spot of defence...
and u were first when the ladder was dead and only low+ clans played it
O rly? How about missing the guy who's spawnraping the axis spawn on grush? Then the fop from the spawn and medic from the 2nd exit can easily shot to the guys @ the truck road.
"You cant cover equally current maps with 5 guys without weakning another spot of defence..."
Ye, there's so many routes to get the flag @ supply, or build the crane. Even 10 players wouldn't be enough to cover those paths.
Wtf you're talking about, rly. Less players in attack = less ways to cover by the defence. So it's simply means it's the same shit just with a less spam.
"and u were first when the ladder was dead and only low+ clans played it"
Coz it was always dead? We were first when the ladder had only 4months. And I still can't see grave there ;=d.
attacking is like a flood... its constant process... having one or two guys down dont actually make the difference, because they could take down 4 axis with them...
you defence should be like a wall... stable in every place... 5 guys means there is weak spot...
5 allies rush down the cave @ supply cp stage... axis have to move there cause there is no way 2 or 3 guys will take down 5 men... then 1 or even none is left @ cp... its way to small amount of players to hold upcoming attack if allies decide to selfkill and get the cp...
Now try same scenario in 6o6... theres always at least two guys @ cp, and they never move from there... and this magic combination of lt+medic is more than enough to hold allies for 3-4 seconds before they mates will come back form cave...
You wrote about some hypothetical situations, 5 people rushing thru the caves can be easily hold by one rifle (landmines+rnades=failrush) & fops.
It's all the same, just less spam.
"having one or two guys down dont actually make the difference"
Ye, that's why we should make 1-man rushes :D.
but i dont care anymore, you are is stupid lowbob, as you did prove many times
but toss makes his own rules :<
i also think a different mappool needs to be looked at if it's 5v5
all in all it's not a bad idea overall though
I dont know how it is now there.. But i was on CDC3 and there were like 6 or 8 teams able to play at once.. so even you will have it 5v5 it will not help to have another 2 teams playing > So the organization will be quite the same ? Im right ?
If u have 20 pc's you can play 2 wars at a time with 5on5, 6on6 u can play uhmm.... calculate yourself!
Though anything to reduce the spam in ET is a good thing imo
To make ET more competitive:
- reduce spam
- make crossfire's less effective
- make panzer stronger but with longer charge time
- remove mines or atleast make them alot weaker
- make sten more powerful so covert ops is a more viable class to play
- make sniping stronger but with more recoil & longer time between shots (1 headshot = 1 kill always but less autosniping)
- change the way that damage is calculated in the source code so its more realistic
- reviving gives 80% of health instead of 60% or whatever it is now
- and imo remove riflenades OR make them strong but use up more charge (like the panzer)
go and play CS
those steps would make the game more like rtcw
CS/S is a crap slow game with wierd spread etc...
how is 'increasing the strength of the panzer' making me a fan of CSS?
fucking polak.
Rtcw died long time ago, ET is still alive, let's keep it that way!
6v6 > 5v5 !
since every other game at the lan seems to be 5on5 aswell it makes sense :p
And most of the guys whining now wouldn't even go if its 6on6
trouble is nothing is being done to attract more players to play ET, to stop the ones from playing from leaving or worse using hacks & being forced to leave.
just hope we dont end up like the tf:c community: when I tried playing a pickup with them they never explained anything and kicked me within 2 minutes because apparently i was doing something wrong & they were being too self centered to explain it!
soz doing like 12 things at once here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVCe0oWdnrE : D
Gl with it tho ;o)
and most of the clanz that will go agreed with it so why not