Lock m_pitch in cb config

by crook • 27 Sep 2009, 10:48 • Journals
So that people actually need to aim to get headshots, instead of camping on axis and strafing left to right while keeping dot at head height.
Would make the game less campy imo!

I know you can use drivers to alter this, but its not completly the same. Aussie league has it locked aswell afaik?

EDIT:
Let me elaborate, for a moment i forgot the average IQ on this site. Basically by allowing a player to fiddle with the x-y dimensions of your mouse movement, you disable the y-axis part of aiming on equal heights situations. Since this game has crouch, this can become a serious disadvantage whenever a player knows how to strafe. Still, when used in certain situations it makes it easy to get headshots by just keeping ur mouse somewhat stable on the x-axis, ignoring the vertical aspect of aiming. I'm not saying low mpitch makes for ownage, because most great aimers i know use 0.022, my only claim is that it takes the skill and thus fun out of certain situations and locking it would make for more dynamic fights.
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Deactivated5839 27 Sep 2009, 11:55
its forced between 0.01501 and as high as u want

locking it would also take out some sniperhero's with high mpitch
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 11:58
ye, i mean lock it at standard (0.022) so every situation every1 is fighting with pretty much equal weapons. Atm low mpitch is very advantageous in camp situations and plain retarded in others
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Deactivated5839 27 Sep 2009, 12:00
actually most people have an mpitch which they think is nice to play with, i have 0.01501 but not because i camp its cause i feel i play better with it. there is lots of people with 0.017 because its average and gives best of both and there is people with standard because they have a highsens overall
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kartez 27 Sep 2009, 12:02
all people can use low mpitch so whats the problem?
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Mica 27 Sep 2009, 12:06
what i was about to reply:/
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kartez 27 Sep 2009, 12:09
too late :D
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:12
check again
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Krii 27 Sep 2009, 12:27
uhm u can still tweak your mouse legally with some software
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:30
yeah i know, i even think in aussie league some guys wanted a dll to ban even that :D
but that's a bridge too far. I don't consider it illegal or 'better', just not in its place in an fps game with a lack of vertical dimensions.
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Krii 27 Sep 2009, 12:32
well it has been in the game for ages, no chance for you to change it :P
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:36
Judging by the amount of constructive comments in this journal, I guess not :P
But then again, its just the crossfire community, ever new map is a bad map and every change is a bad change.
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Krii 27 Sep 2009, 13:50
autism is the explanation
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ENSJQM 27 Sep 2009, 11:57
cant really see how its giving any advantage
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:00
I personally think its shit to play with, but for alot of people it means they just have to aim on the x-axis to get random headshots.

Just was speccing some totally random medskillers with a total lack of x- axis aim, but they still got headshots because of a low mpitch. Pretty retarded imo :D
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danL 27 Sep 2009, 12:18
you do understand that people with high pitch can also keep the xhair at one level in the same way as those with low can?
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:21
ofcourse, your point being?
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danL 27 Sep 2009, 12:22
that your "elaboration" is a pile of crap
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:27
If you read carefully, its not an argument for locking the m_pitch not an argument against the current state.
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darthmob 27 Sep 2009, 11:58
Learn to play, noob. :D
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Paintrain 27 Sep 2009, 11:59
It's a crutch, but same goes for low sensitivity and all kinds of lame connection settings/scripts.
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bst 27 Sep 2009, 12:01
in that case, we shall all have the same config which includes the same sens, textures and visual settings.

lets all just be the same eh
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:02
Its not about the same sensitivity, its about the same dimensions between x-axis and y-axis sensitivity. How about you think, before you comment?
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bst 27 Sep 2009, 12:05
just stop posting retarded journals craving attention for profile hits.

gtfo and go live your life dumb cunt
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:18
This is a serious journal, just about as serious as your apparant braindamage.
Ignored.
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squalli 27 Sep 2009, 12:20
Well that is what you are actually asking, everyone to play with same configs.
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:24
Not really. When you change the visual appearance or sensitivity, it's not the same as changing the x-y dimension. Changing sensitivity or visual appearance can be seen as changing the look of the trees on a map, whereas changing the x-y dimensions is more like changing the positions of the trees on that same map.
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squalli 27 Sep 2009, 12:30
What? So if I change my m_pitch the trees on the map move?
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:32
It's a metaphor, but I'm pretty sure you knew that :p
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squalli 27 Sep 2009, 12:38
Actually you are not making any sense.
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:41
Once again, changing sensitivity or visual appearance isn't changing anything essential in the game mechanics, but changing the x-y dimensions is. And imo it shouldn't be embedded in an fps game as a simple command.
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DoctorWho 27 Sep 2009, 12:45
actually changing sensitivity is fucking very similar to m_pitch and m_yaw
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:48
Only on the surface. And if you still didn't get my point after all this, you are the moron...

"OMGOMG ITS THE SAME BECUZ U CHANGE SENSITIVITY, SENSITIVITY IS THE SAME IDIOT OMGOMG" ; those are your thoughts atm, right?
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DoctorWho 27 Sep 2009, 12:57
no... but forcing m_pitch to some value, will force ppl to use lower sensitivity to avoid horizontal aiming mistakes... ergo - it will change nothing...

just like that...
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 14:31
So that makes sense? Lower sens also cripples gameplay and besides the end result is not the same.
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DoctorWho 27 Sep 2009, 16:47
You could also tell that highsense cripples the game because ppl turn around too fast...

dont try to fix, what isnt broken
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Heidi 27 Sep 2009, 12:07
maus config!!!
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Deactivated5839 27 Sep 2009, 12:01
This is like saying: You can't use a deathadder cause we dont want you to have your own playstyle...
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:19
you can not compare a better mouse with different x-y dimensions imo :o
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Deactivated5839 27 Sep 2009, 12:40
i mean like some people feel better with certain settings. Same with hardware i have a deathadder(rather heavy big mouse) and a logitech G3(small light). With deathadder im decent aimer but with g3 i am failing like crap. Its mostly feeling that counts with sensitivity settings
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:44
yeah I get your point, but changing a mouse isn't touching the core of the aiming mechanic at the base of any fps game. Something that shouldn't be left open for players to change at will imo.
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diph 27 Sep 2009, 12:02
i don`t get ur point...
u can`t say all players with low pitch are ownage, because they are used to their low pitch. but there are players with high pitch and they own.. just a matter of what u`re used to
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Mica 27 Sep 2009, 12:03
also force people to at least use a sense above 20! and disallow any drivers and reg. tweaks
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danL 27 Sep 2009, 12:04
I say CB should force default config for everyone, only cvar that you should be able to change should be autoreload(yes, same sens, volume, gamma and everything else for everybody)

Would make the game less campy imo!
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Mica 27 Sep 2009, 12:08
default config looks so pretty and cute :'(
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zenix 27 Sep 2009, 12:06
lol, imo higher m_pitch has advantage as well. For rifeling, for faster reaction to opponent above or beneath you. I dont play with low m_pitch because its not my style. But i dont see any reason to let ppl not use it. Its like people playing with low sens, instead of high sens. You need more skill for high sens right? So lets force sens 10 and m_pitch 0.022 that will make sure the campers cant do anything anymore ;D
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:16
It's a plea for standardization. One of the strong points of ET is the fact that everyone uses a weapon with the same specs, forcing teams to rely on skill and teamplay. Different m_pitch can be seen as different types of weapon, one not stronger than the other one, just different. It touches the core of the aiming mechanic and shouldnt be left to the individual player;
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zenix 27 Sep 2009, 21:55
you can allmost adjust that in every game...
And Australians play different like us. I remember in quake wars they played all kinds of public maps in competition. And in ET they didnt even play 6on6 before. So i dont think we should look at them.
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 23:27
"you can allmost adjust that in every game"

I know, it shouldn't be. :)
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DoctorWho 27 Sep 2009, 12:46
youre a moron, nothing more to say...
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crook 27 Sep 2009, 12:50
I like your reasoning. I feel compelled to agree with you, after you have shown such impeccable insight.
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NobAdI 27 Sep 2009, 13:19
u can also edit in driver U SUCK! dumbasss
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