CB Feedback & Suggestions here

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Nothing official yet but since there have been lots of departures from the CB ET Crew (Bartichello quit some months ago, Homer in a few month(s), doneX aswell) which will mean that only me & mundus (dunno if he'll continue) and the new 4 sups which will be announced next week.

so if i become the Game Supervisor for ET i need you to suggest changes for rules,ladders,cups,etpro,punkbuster, anything ET/CB Related which i can change, don't be shy to say shit.

Some stuff i will discuss as soon as the new supervisors are recruited are the following:
  • 5on5
  • 180,Rifle,TJ,Sniper Scripts,Auto-Push
  • Server Streaming Rule
  • GUID Rule in Cup & Ladders
  • Wildcard Rule
  • Yours?!

P.S: I will definitely bring back the OpenCup 3on3 if i get the GS position.

Stuff coming to my mind now:
- ClanBase/Global 5on5 Config (5 -> 3/4 landmines? MG Back?)
- Maplist
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I will quit after or during this season (will handle EC for sure).
cg_crosshairX cg_crosshairY cg_crosshairZ settings (moves the crosshair from your screen so you can shoot trickplants easier)
cg_crosshairZ

:D
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finally somebody found the lulz :XD

imagine the crosshair popping out of your screen :D
Parent
Or going behind the object you camp behind x__x
Parent
Do you want to remove rifle scripts? Ok, sounds nice for me, but remove all of them, not only those with crosshairX/Y.
Parent
are you referring to the ones shown in the tutorial (crumbs?)
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Don't know any rifle tutorial sorry.
Parent
5on5 is a good idea
definitely ok to use crosshair size changer/script
3on3 OC would be awesome yeah !

Also quit PB --> #anti-pro !
No shove when shooting scripts. No rifleshooting scripts. No tj scripts. No sniper scripts. 180 is ok for me. Can't stand most of these scripts. Makes the game unballanced and ruins pure skill.
6on6, no 5on5.
+ for everything, especially for those jump-scripts.
Parent
there is no sniper script... its just highsens, mpitch and fps...

3on3 is rage!=)
ye but sniper with a bot sucks... u can see that much
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I wouldn't know
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5on5 NO
180,Rifle,TJ,Sniper Scripts NO
Server Streaming Rule No opinion
GUID Rule in Cup & Ladders Fine as how it is
Wildcard Rule Fine as how it is

Yours?! - Make the ladders more active.. Someting like you have to play the ladder if you want to play OC/EC (1 automatch each week at the same time; 21.00 CET).. Make the OC/EC groups/divisions by the rankings so people can't flame about the EC-quali's and OC-groups!
- Antipro instead of PB
do a conflict
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been there done that
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delete delivery from 6on6 mappool
delivery is a 3on3 only map, too small for 6on6
Parent
nice joke mate
Parent
the map is just to small for 12 players
Parent
no way, the map just needs more organization & effort than in 3on3
Parent
smth called tax makes it playable, but yeh u will learn that in school soon.
Parent
you dont need tax in delivery just main & back
Parent
ur whining about delivery not beeing playable for 6on6 and i found it funny bcoz i prefer delivery over most of other 6on6 maps like adler and others.
Parent
rather playing delivery then other shit maps.
Parent
delete punkbuster asap.... like private hacks get detected by that anyway and its only lagging
and as soon as antipro is ready switch over to antipro
Sniper Scripts, rly exist?? :D
SKEIT AS SUPERVISER
skeit is a retard, he kicked me from #most-hated :(
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6on6 > 5on5, disable scripts
change to ESL cuz they are cooler
disable scripts, disable pb, gg
- remove/enable push only for teammates,i wanna play a shooter and not some mario party game

- remove scripts

- disable pb,at least for higher leagues like ec
pushing belongs to et's gameplay so no thx
Parent
i hope u will still have what to supervise
I'd make streaming optional, people don't check it anyway unless they're trying to get a forfeit and bunch of gtv servers aren't streamed anyway

also I don't mind any script since everyone can make one, only ones I'd remove are 180 and push, sniper script isn't possible anyway for years now

remove ice and base(beach maybe aswell) from 3on3 ladder and add delivery

wildcard worked better before imo when you had to inform only the opponent that you're using it and you could tell the admin later, maybe you could make it so that you can use it up until 10 mins after match time

bring 3on3 OC back(disallow any team that hasn't played at least 2 matches in 2 weeks before OC kickoff)

tell whoever translated CB to croatian that "mehanicar" is like the most idiotic translation for "engineer" ever
you hit many points i was going to discuss with the crew:

1) we use server streaming for getting server logs, so it's pretty useless to stream on gtv since the gtv admins can be trusted in handing in the server logs if needed
2) we can set streaming optional, just like in cod4 they have xray as optional: http://clanbase.ggl.com/warinfo.php?wid=9410303 they can select this option when challenging their opponent
3) was proposing the same idea "The wildcard can be used up until 10 minutes after the match start time as shown on the Roster Page. If a clan attempts to use a Wildcard after the allowed time, they will have to forfeit the match."
4) [20:15:26] [@[CB]Decl] exact link and place would be appreciated
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optional streaming would be good indeed and that under 3). is good

as for 4). if that's for translation, you can find it in any ladder rules at 2.10. (for 6o6 ladder it says "Only 1 riflegrenade is allowed during the match per team (this doesn't limit the number of engineers using a rifle, only the number of engineers using a riflegrenade)." where engineer is translated to "mehanicar"(direct translation from "mechanic") and it should be "inženjer" since that is a valid croatian word :p

EDIT: you can give him THIS link ;)
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you dont need a script to push an opponent while shooting ! :)
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I don't but there seem to be people that can't multitask
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you do with your scripts :D
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- Leave 6o6
- Definately change the wildcard rule to something like 10mins after
- Only scripts I think you should ban is 180 scripts and push scripts. TJ scripts aren't all bad since people hardly do them anyway (I have TJ script but 9/10 I always forget). No such thing as a sniper script and rifle scripts are ok. Rifle scripts are ok,
- Take PB out for Antipro
- Change the "added player to team" rule, I think it should be like ESL where if you add a player straight away and they have a match, they should ask opponents if its okay
Parent
Get some prizes for EuroCup to attract the old pro's ;)
pb off !
In my honest opinion, I don't think that TJ scripts are hurting anybody. Sniper scripts do, but it would be ridiculous to limit the amount of com_maxfps, m_pitch or disable sensitivity toggle! I don't care about the 180 degree script; not using it myself. Just disable it :]

PS. SHOVE SCRIPTS ARE FUCKING ANNOYING, FU!

6on6 > 5on5
sniper scripts work by cl_pitchspeed
180 scripts work by cl_yawspeed

only way to disable them is by antipro killing the command or locking it, punkbuster cannot disable it as it is too slow to do such stuff
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cl_pitchspeed doesn't affect anything since +lookup +lookdown commands have been disabled :p
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theoretically maybe, in practice it reduces the recoil, and no without the fps changer.
Parent
ty gonna add that to my "script"
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I would defo disable sniper, 180 + pushscripts. TJ scripts don't matter that much as they're slow and pretty pointless. Riflescripts aren't that super duper overpowered or anything so leave em in.

If format will be 5v5 leave out mg, as it will be too powerfull. 6o6 it's possible to bring it back.

5v5 is a tough point, personally i'm all for it, but don't know about the majority.
I suggest making OC etc 5o5, keep 6o6 ladder, just gradually shift the cups to 5v5 format.

bringing back 3v3 = awesome.

Wildcard rule is definatly a +, but maybe you should also be able to use it after that time if the opposing team agrees? You never know about unexpected circumstances.. :D

my 2cents, good on seeing you trying to make the game better! Hope they'll give you the power to do so! :D

PS.
Remove autoaction from config, it annoys me @ praccs, recording should be your own responsibility!!!
+ bring back simple itemssss!!
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tell me more about the sniper script, will you? because no such thing exists, except as somekind of cheat or @ etmain.
no anticheat needed in EC
dunno if its PB or YNC servers or maybe both but this game is fucking BULLSHIT atm..
other things i dont really care for not nearly as much as this issue atleast
+1, pb is killing this game, you have to pray to get the lag in not bad situations this is like playing lottery...
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•5on5 why now?

•180,Rifle,TJ,Sniper Scripts,Auto-Push :

180 = bug exploit due no spread increase? so no thx.
rifle script no? learn to aim on certain points and have luck it lands on your "trained" spot :)
TJ script: no
sniper script no, learn to snipe
auto push, no learn to push or gtfo

•Server Streaming Rule
GV admins should check this way more often, due 90% of server aint streaming, tho it's just the thought it will work...

•GUID Rule in Cup & Ladders
you add @ start of cup 6 players with pb guide > clanleader/CB will save the keys incase some1 lost it and are too retarded to change it > no guid entered 10 days before match or a matchweek or w/e (wildcards excluded OFCOURSE GUESS WHY)

•Wildcard Rule
matchtime is deadline, one wc. fail to do so ff lost np...


• no/less spread ! :D

• Use rules for what they are made, don't use rules for unexpected events, instead: adapt w/e. you should know about what bullshit im talking about

• global 5on5 cfg > 3 mines.
MG back? is this a question? you don't put it in 6on6, but hey let's put it in 5on5... awesome thinking there. Next time just leave the MG in, it aint even hard to kill an MG, only baby's who don't know how whined about it... putting it back will change things tho i can't predict future :P

• maplist tba
CB was always in favour of the MG, ESL wasn't, we had to make a global config and we gave them the mg decision and they gave us the b_simpleitems or cg_autoaction decision, cant remember.
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just because it's possible to change something, it isn't the purpose to change it. same with helmet protection: it's a feature of the game, yet it got removed, now it's back again in the global one. Why it got changed? no single reason. same with MG. the must be Reasons why things should change, not what people cry about, even if they cry, look to the things why they cry ;)
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You gotta thank beggin for really keeping this years EC alive.

Just a shame that every CB-related post is "attentionwhoring", for homer.
You're crying because I called your differo project attention whoring. Let's check what you have done- exactly 1 month ago you started it, then I found 1 (1) news @ 11 oct. Wow, impressive, look who's right.

Ask beggin if I called him attention whore. Apparently, I d o n t think so.

You're writing bullshit, not first and I guess not last time. BB
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dee oh ene tea? (just kidding)
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OC 3o3 : nice :d
remove special delivery and ET will be saved

ban all scripts!

no anticheats is needed but I think pb can still be "the one"

get good servers for most important matches, really tired of getting forced into shit servers after a year and year again

for 6on6 id get MG back, for 5on5 no. and less mines for 5on5

and for 3on3 get rid off rtcw maps. take maps like bremen or radar instead !
Fucking delivery.

1st stage, dodge allied snipers (ax), put arty (ax), wait for dyna to explode (al).
2nd stage, lean and wait till someone comes (ax) / run until someone gives 3hs after leaning (al), shoot bounce-rifles around (both)
3rd stage, same shit as 2nd.
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love your delivery whine
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you can call it "whine" but i think its the most failed map in ET competive history EVER and should be removed as soon as possible

cant understand how anyone could actually to like it
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seems like a lot of people like it because it's a lot different when compared to bremen gold supply or radar , don't see why mostly fins complain about it though
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only newschoolers and noobs like it because there they have small chance of winning

and yes finns prefer to win with skills, not with leaning festival and some lucky rifleshots

cant even enjoy winning there because i know that opponent couldnt do anything better when they just got outspammed and outleaned
Parent
yeah, whatever, i doubt bossid would agree with you
Parent
i doubt they like it either.. they just know how to play it and surely know how to play it better than us :D
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so its not all about leaning/rifleshots is it? :D
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in a more skilled level teams can do much more and they dont just lean and try to win like that because there's a risk it will fail

but my way of thinking wont change because one clan can play it a bit more out of the box, its a shit map made for shit players
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alright expert :D
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u just stay leanin there!
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+1 for 6on6 MG
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3on3 OC back
6on6 > 5on5
Delivery out
cl_maxpackets 10-100
Rifle out
1 nade max per class
landmines out
pb out
antipro in
5o5 suck
For everyone who is complaining about "pb-lag", fuck off. Try wolfenstein-mp and come back to ET, what a heaven, so smoooooth <3

Nothing wrong on it atm, except the whine and special_delivery. Though scripts could be disabled if we wanted some improvements.

I so miss those days when 6on6 ladder was active and open cups were something really special :(
actually everything is smooth after wolfenstein, even css with 40 fps on my laptop, but you are right, so +1 :P
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Anti-pro
LEAVE 6on6 - Just because CC7 makes 5on5 don't mean it will be 5on5 after? Leave it 6on6, it's been like that for long time
Leave the rifle scripts - Trickshots are skill either figure out how to do them or just stfu
Leave tj scrips, nothing wrong with this
"Snipe scripts" - Theres nothing such as a snipe script, it's just editing fps, pitch and sensitivity
MG42 should be left out, was best decision when global configs came out
Leave the maps - Don't mind all the whine, maps are fine as it is just take out custom maps like missile and put back in maps like reactor
Server streaming and GUID rules are fine
Wildcard.. well you saw the incident that happened with us i suggest you delay it till 10 mins into the match

Other than that, CB OC need to pick stable clans because this OC theres almost 2 teams out in every group, in every division
QuoteOther than that, CB OC need to pick stable clans because this OC theres almost 2 teams out in every group, in every division


Imo Clanbase has worked well on picking stable teams.. atleast in high divisions. Applying this to 3on3 OC will surely work also
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Well in the premier divisions yes, but you gotta look at division 2 and 3 imo. Even though the matter of skill, the amount of dropouts is still bad
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do not disable 180 script !
if cc7 is going to stick with 5on5, then CB should move to 5on5 aswell (atleast until cc7 is over)

and don't know if I even need to say this, but mg needs to be brought back!
5on5, no rifle, no pb, no scripts
finally gtfo donex :D
btw remove knockback or reduce it there are far to many people with homemade noknockback cheats
clean people are disadvantaged enough
stop drinking
Parent
the et one is even shorter even my grandma could creat her own
bNoRecoil = true
bNoBreath = true
-- No Recoil and No Breath

function Tick(DeltaTime, ViewPort)
PC = ViewPort.Actor
end

function PostRender(Canvas)
if (PC.Pawn) then
if (PC.Pawn.Weapon) then
if bNoBreath than
PC.bPerfectAccuracy = true
end
if bNoRecoil
PC.Pawn.Weapon.bWpnRecoil = false
end
PC.Pawn.Weapon.bWpnAccuracy = false
end
end
end
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6on6 and 3on3 (OC)
Remove 180,TJ,Sniper Scripts,Auto-Push
# Server Streaming Rule (we need antipro )
don't remove 180 script
[19:43:33] [@gtv`Titef] Posse`szczurek
[19:43:35] [@gtv`Titef] first,
[19:43:37] [@gtv`Titef] who are you,
[19:43:42] [@gtv`Titef] second, what do you do here
[19:48:32] [Carlos] so
[19:48:33] [Carlos] who
[19:48:34] [Carlos] are
[19:48:35] [Carlos] you
[19:50:07] [Posse`szczurek] im a guy who can give u a lose
[19:50:26] [Posse`szczurek] in this second if u want
[19:51:46] [Carlos] I'll take that as a threat

I suggest you get rid of your retarded refs/admins.
Quote- ClanBase/Global 5on5 Config (5 -> 3/4 landmines? MG Back?)


not another month-long discussion period please :D
-5on5 without MG42
-Keep rifle/sniper/tj scripts
-Wildcard: need 2 wildcards, 1 is not enough
-Streaming is bullshit, especially on gameviolations, what a retarded site. Just remove PB and use antipro(when its released).
-Same mines as the actual 5on5.config
-Add 3on3 OC
-Dont care about 180 script
-And the most important for me...remove the 'screenshots sending' after an offi...add the tool to fill a result so the other team can accept. If the other team doesnt accept, then it's ok, you can send the match screenshots.

-Do not recruit kids for admin tasks.
-Min fps = 60, it lags like hell when you shoot someone with 30-50 fps. And 99% of monitors got 60hz so its stupid to play with less fps.
-Tell ycn to improve their servers.
-Remove ice from 3on3 ladder and add delivery. Add delivery on 6on6 ladder too.

autopush? :S explain
et is good as it is now, just remove the lag plz
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