ET opinions [by low]
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13 Jan 2010, 21:59
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Hey there!
This is going to be a journal from a low.
You might not want to read it, but I thought it might be interesting for some people to see how newcomers experience the ET community, and maybe you will find some interesting points to why ET is dying off in the eyes of some people.
Moving on from pubs to wars
This scares many newcomers off the competitive way of gaming, maybe also huge talents! I pubbed this game for a few years and came to etpro, and the first thing I noticed was how "nice" people were.
Of course, there were wins and losses. There were skillfakes and nice matches. But 95% of my enemies at low- had one thing in common: They won against us - which is not hard to achieve. But also rubbing it into our faces all 2 minutes with egobinds, insults, I've never been called jewish/black/whatever else as often in my whole life as in the past 3 months where I've played active etpro.
Naturally I could smile about sarcastic comments and I did not lose my sense of humor, however, I know what is humor and what is pure faggotry. Same applies to ETTV, I was so happy when I found out about /tvchat off.
Getting Skill
Of course, I craved for more than playing low- matches. I had a few friends who had some success at etpro and I was allowed to play with them from time to time, huge kudos to the guys from dev1ous.net for that, and I also played as a mercenary in #6on6.et very often.
This is actually what strikes me as odd... everytime I played with a team that was skilled more than I was, I was able to learn a lot of things from them that I was then able to use myself.
But learning from the enemy is hard. By now I have learned to see what a low is and what isn't. I spent much time watching ETTV, mercing to bring new fresh skill to my team.
But what happens? We did not move on in skill, won a few matches more, but it seemed like our enemies were getting better and better too, and this in the same skill-class! Eventually, I wrote down people who searched for low+ and higher in a .txt file, scanning it before every scrim. I found some med+ people and high people searching for low- matches, and you guys know who you are, put yourself in the place of a newcomer to ET who wants to learn the game. Yet better put yourself into your own place when you had started the game.
By now, my team and me have achieved solid med- skill on 3on3, 5on5 and 6on6, which was pretty surprising to us due to the fact that med- was EASIER than low+ for most of the matches! Myself, I've merced in a few med+ matches now and found myself sometimes carrying the team in 6on6.
I would have had a much easier start with ET if there wasn't this huge level of skillfake and faggotry around etpro, and I've wanted to throw it all a few times already, just the cup we had signed up for kept me ingame, until I was skilled enough to survive in mIRC.
Basically out of this whole experience, Low (Now med- :3 ) tells you the following two things of his opinion:
1. ET dies because new people have too hard times with skillfakers
2. You can't get real skill without connections
Well, you can think different, but please consider if these things were true how to fix them, because I'm sure that it might help a bit with the issue ET is facing. You're saying newcomers want bling bling, I'm saying they can live without it if they face a nice, friendly community.
That's about it. See you and good night,
Saevio.
tl;dr improve community plz
This is going to be a journal from a low.
You might not want to read it, but I thought it might be interesting for some people to see how newcomers experience the ET community, and maybe you will find some interesting points to why ET is dying off in the eyes of some people.
Moving on from pubs to wars
This scares many newcomers off the competitive way of gaming, maybe also huge talents! I pubbed this game for a few years and came to etpro, and the first thing I noticed was how "nice" people were.
Of course, there were wins and losses. There were skillfakes and nice matches. But 95% of my enemies at low- had one thing in common: They won against us - which is not hard to achieve. But also rubbing it into our faces all 2 minutes with egobinds, insults, I've never been called jewish/black/whatever else as often in my whole life as in the past 3 months where I've played active etpro.
Naturally I could smile about sarcastic comments and I did not lose my sense of humor, however, I know what is humor and what is pure faggotry. Same applies to ETTV, I was so happy when I found out about /tvchat off.
Getting Skill
Of course, I craved for more than playing low- matches. I had a few friends who had some success at etpro and I was allowed to play with them from time to time, huge kudos to the guys from dev1ous.net for that, and I also played as a mercenary in #6on6.et very often.
This is actually what strikes me as odd... everytime I played with a team that was skilled more than I was, I was able to learn a lot of things from them that I was then able to use myself.
But learning from the enemy is hard. By now I have learned to see what a low is and what isn't. I spent much time watching ETTV, mercing to bring new fresh skill to my team.
But what happens? We did not move on in skill, won a few matches more, but it seemed like our enemies were getting better and better too, and this in the same skill-class! Eventually, I wrote down people who searched for low+ and higher in a .txt file, scanning it before every scrim. I found some med+ people and high people searching for low- matches, and you guys know who you are, put yourself in the place of a newcomer to ET who wants to learn the game. Yet better put yourself into your own place when you had started the game.
By now, my team and me have achieved solid med- skill on 3on3, 5on5 and 6on6, which was pretty surprising to us due to the fact that med- was EASIER than low+ for most of the matches! Myself, I've merced in a few med+ matches now and found myself sometimes carrying the team in 6on6.
I would have had a much easier start with ET if there wasn't this huge level of skillfake and faggotry around etpro, and I've wanted to throw it all a few times already, just the cup we had signed up for kept me ingame, until I was skilled enough to survive in mIRC.
Basically out of this whole experience, Low (Now med- :3 ) tells you the following two things of his opinion:
1. ET dies because new people have too hard times with skillfakers
2. You can't get real skill without connections
Well, you can think different, but please consider if these things were true how to fix them, because I'm sure that it might help a bit with the issue ET is facing. You're saying newcomers want bling bling, I'm saying they can live without it if they face a nice, friendly community.
That's about it. See you and good night,
Saevio.
tl;dr improve community plz
i remember moving to etpro waaay back the people were so much nicer in etpub :S
but then u get use to all those insults lolz and even do them yourself ^^
oh and majority of low wars are skill fakers and cheaters
you only know its genuine when you play clans like aFo etc
//edit:
playing against aFo was nice, already got to know them in a few matches.
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Its really fun and productive if you can find a nice clan with the same amount of activity and skill. When I first started playing ET actively, every second war I played with nfp was against a german clan who were friends with some members of our clan. We had fun and both got better at the game :)
Same thing applies when you are playing with a stable lineup on a higher skill level. When I was playing with nkNn or bF more actively, we always played opponents we had gg's against and who were genuinely nice guys.
but look at me. i think i can call me decent medskill but i enjoy it to play against low+ because its much much much easier...you get more kills and dont have to play thaaat serious
thats why many more skilled teams search for lower oppos if they just want to have fun.
the teams which want to achieve someting search for better oppos..
and yes, its almost impossible to get better fast, as long as there is noone who will guid you...
we should all start playing RtCW again... so 90% of ET fuckers would have to learn basics again
SO GTFO OF CROSSFIRE
at least I'm not saying stupid comments all around :)
It's good that you have lived up to the problems and still keep on eagerly trying to improve your skills.
On the other hand I gotta say that ofc it depends a lot with whom you play. Like I often play some "not-so-good" ppl, and surely I won't look for high skill oppo then
it's impossible to find a nice team when you are new at et (like me for example atm)
playing etpro pubs, mostly the purefrag stuff
yesterday played a mix war (which was hard to find)
i learned a lot of that, would have been easier if i knew somebody who is med skill :D
Concidering "everyone's" bad attitude is very generalized but true to a certain point. That's nothing unusual though. All games including teams facing each other makes the individual feel more superior and the group/team is like a backup. You'll have to learn to ignore those weird attitudes because that's definitly nothing you will be able to change.
Partly I can agree on your second point. It is definitly a big advantage to have certain connections. I started ET without any help when it came out and it took me far longer to reach a certain skill compared to the newcomers today.
And to connect to your first arguement again... if you ask people friendly, most of them will be very handy and willing to help you to improve.
on the other hadn I agree with you its hard for newcommers to join competetion.
My experience is though, that if you ignore the retarded comments there are actually quite a few cool guys in ET! Do the chitchat with those instead! ;)
The ego-guys aren't really that many, but the ones who are very visible, since the nice guys don't have that urge to tell you that you're an unhittable fag skilless retard over and over again.
Take the good and leave the bad!
2. Not really. Just review the demos of the matches you played and check what you did wrong, how you could improve etc. There are several ways to improve your skill. :)
You can be pretty sure that the one searching low won't be very good, but that's pretty much it.
Its true however that you need some connections if you want to get better fast. If you just want to have fun, you can do that anywhere. Eventhough I was mostly outperforming my teammates when I was playing low+ wars, I just always had fun playing with my mates. The only reason I went up to play on a higher skill level was because I made a great friend online who happened to play on a higher level and I wanted to see if I could compete on that level. The only reason I played with bF was also because they were really nice guys.
So basically my point is that you can get better fast if you play with people who are alot better (connections like you call them), but if you just make friends as you go along, you can also climb to a higher skill level (at a slower rate nonetheless). I never merced, I never made a cless post, I never tried to force myself into a team and still I found myself friends to compete on a med+/high level.