Shut the fuck up and

quit it.

Mods = gods, Krosan was right in his decision, fucking stop whining ADD tyfuscancer nerdkids
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worth posting a journal. You should ask for a news item
OH LOOK ANOTHER LOEKINO'S LOVE ISLAND SEVERAL-TIMES-BANNED RETARD TRYING TOO HARD

SURE IS ORIGINAL AROUND HERE.
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DONT LET ME CALL CHUCK NORRIS

image: chuckp
OLD, bring us smth new idiot or die irl
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what happened here with krosan?
krosan <3
THE CUBE <3
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This cube shizzle, is it from the movie?
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NOOOOOO Its teh CUBE WHERE EVERYTHING IS HARDER
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I KNOW THAT EVERYTHING IS HARDER IN THE CUBE, BUT WHERE DOES THE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS CUBE COME FROM?

un-caps'd text to please the eyes of my fellow admins
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said it before, crossfire is a fucking joke when it comes to cheater-mentality.
Yet, curiously, you've never reported a single cheater.

image: msf31t
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butthurt much? Cheaters don't deserve to be dealt with like regular players

PS: Lol internet
serious business ye.
I know for a fact the guy didn't cheat after his last ban, then he gets unbanned from here only to get banned again if that isn't bullshit then wtf is.

And besides who are you to condemn these people, like a fuckin nazi: "BURN THE CHEATERS" (and all his buddies).

Hypothetically:
If your real life mate (who plays ET) cheats and gets banned would you not hang out with him or maybe play ET with him?
Cause if you still would then you are a fucking hypocrit.
You act like people dont deserve to live after a ban, that is fucking ridiculous.
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> comparing real-life and internet
> saying cheaters deserve the same treatment as regulars
> implying Sup3r is less of a cheater than any other cheater in the history of ET
> using big words out of context "nazi" "burn" and MANY CAPS when I stated my opinion clearly and my facts objectively

Not going to bother, honestly
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This is web 2.0 get used to it biatch.
I love how everyone throws around the term cheaters, like these guys are the scum of the earth. Has it never occurred to you he only cheated once and is serving his ban at the moment, not using any cheats or anything, he even lanproofed himself (in a stupid way, I admit).
He deserves his ban but that doesn't mean you have to hate him for it...
Besides that, I raged at your attentionwhoring off of someone else his journal.
You put yourself on the spot and then expect a normal reaction of me?
Your journal was a plee for flame.
You are the one trolling.
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"You put yourself on the spot and then expect a normal reaction of me?"

Who the fuck are you



For the rest of your useless dickgarbling piece of emopoetry, go ahead and read this again.

"You're defending someone who has been caught cheating on more than one occasion, has willfully ignored their ban several times, and has showed up at a LAN he knew he wasn't allowed to be with the sole purpose of deceiving the organisers"

Ireland Sol
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QuoteHe deserves his ban

U need glasses?

Besides that, who the fuck are you?

Quotestop whining ADD tyfuscancer nerdkids

who is the one still whining in an 3 days old journal?

SERIOUS BUSINESS
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you're stupid
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We just don't agree fool. And we never will. Face it.
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real mature ye, whining at me using "fuckin nazi".
See, you are a hypocrit.
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OH NO YOU DIDNT..........!
[23:05:43] [@unblind] TOSSPUT NAZI REGIME DELETE THE JOURNAL SAYS KROSAN BAD NOT GIVE AN RESPONSE OMG
Well.

Oh okayy :3
Can you tell me why you unbanned him in the first place then? I know you want to be consistent in your web policy but you are only humans..
The fact that you would delete Ap0c's journal only confirms you might have made a mistake.. he didn't break any rules with his journal, did he?
QuoteNobody can be 100% objective, you are not a judge even but you can't deny favouritism doesn't happen, it happens in schools, in business, so why would crossfire be an exception?


Incorrect decisions have been made from time to time, yes, as you say, we're only humans; but your implication was that we're deliberately being biased, and I'd like for you to give me some examples to support your claim. So far you've used Schnee as an example, and I don't accept that example. Now that I think of it, Schnee was made admin so that she could ban someone who we were going to ban anyway, and she was immediately demoted after that. Goofy? Yes, but that's all.

QuoteCan you tell me why you unbanned him in the first place then? I know you want to be consistent in your web policy but you are only humans..


I unbanned him because I was under the impression that his ClanBase ban had expired.We banned him again because ClanBase did so, too, and it is our policy to copy their bans. You're defending someone who has been caught cheating on more than one occasion, has willfully ignored their ban several times, and has showed up at a LAN he knew he wasn't allowed to be with the sole purpose of deceiving the organisers. Are we the ones being unreasonable here?

Another thing you must bear in mind is that we have a small number of active admins, all of whom have varying degrees of knowledge on the scene. I, for one, have not played ET in over a year, and do not follow the scene whatsoever, so it is unreasonable to expect me to flawlessly keep up to date with the ClanBase's banlist. We encourage people to report cheaters so that we can deal with them.


QuoteThe fact that you would delete Ap0c's journal only confirms you might have made a mistake.. he didn't break any rules with his journal, did he?


It only confirms such a thing if that's the conclusion you're digging for in the first place. I didn't delete the journal and, for what it's worth, I don't think it should have been deleted, either.
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First off, nice comeback, I gotta give you that.
Second, no I can't give you any other concrete evidence of any admin being deliberately biased.
However can you imagine his unbanning and re-banning might come over a bit as if it were?

And I was at that LAN, speccing them and as far as I know they just wanted to prove that they could perform as good as they do online, without cheats, not to show they could deceive the organisation.

I am not trying to justify what sup3r did in any way, he deserves his ban, I was merely amazed at why he got unbanned and re-banned within a month or so.

I respect your honesty about the journal aswell and I really don't have anything else to say as you answered my main question perfectly.
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Sup3r is a cheater. CB renewed his ban, so I did the same. Why in God's name would you defend Sup3r?
Ye he cheated and deliberatly busted himself once and then had a nexus file in his ET folder (a detected cheat half the community used). DEATH ROW IMO!!

crossfire, hypocrisy is thy middle name.
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You're the hypocrite here. Whine when we don't ban enough cheaters, whine when we do.
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Yeah I'm the hypocrite, why don't you go and unban alexl again? (thanks sol for getting rid of him). I do like cheaters to get banned, but that doesn't mean that I don't think they deserve another chance after some time. Especially when their last kick was a kick for some stupid nexus file and they even proved themselves on lan. Its been atleast 3 years since Sup3r actually touched a cheat yet everywhere he goes people scream cheats.

The kind of cheaters I truely despise are those who try to pretend they aren't cheating.
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My aim is consistency. Supply me with a list of cheaters & proof and I will ban them! A cheat is a cheat, and there will always be an excuse or a story behind it. But that's not proof at all. The hard evidence is the hack, and that has consequences. One can believe the cheater's story or not, that's all very subjective.
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My comments weren't aimed at you personally, I thought that was pretty clear ;)
And I'm not just talking about the subjectiveness of his story, but the known facts.

From what I've seen, crossfire needed a few scapegoats at one point to fuel their war on cheats. Super just happened to be one of them. I just think it's a shame when you look at what he actually did wrong. You can not possible compare him to those cheaters that return with a fake nick and get banned for some multihack, yet people still portray him as the king of cheaters.
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Ah ok we're working on a new way to get rid of cheaters, so there will be news pretty soon.

Regarding Sup3r, if you look at his cb banpage, you have to admit it does look bad, worse than most cheaters on here:

http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=2958979&suspend=1
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Well considering he basically only cheated in 2007, got banned by mistake for a nexus file he had still left in his ETfolder and then returned because he thought he was treated unfair, it really doesn't look that bad to me. This is a three year deal we are talking about, he basically is still paying for his first ban.
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If that's true then that's shit, but if we start doubting CB's bans, then we can just open the gates to cheaters anyway. But with the returning while banned he definitely didn't learn his lesson, cause he also came to CC6 and faked his name there. Now that might seem cool for some and might get him a huge e-penis, but for Crossfire & our cause it's pathetic.
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Yeah I don't deny that he did some pretty stupid things, but I do understand why he wanted to clear his name. Too bad for him it just got him in more trouble :p
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I was serious when making this journal

gj
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Some people with the right connections and the right amount of e-fame tend to shake off their cheater mark and bans rather quickly. An admin with bonds in the community itself can not be objective and will never be. I'm too close to super myself to be objective aswell, but I still think anyone knowing super and his true and full story would defend him like I would.

What DID Apoc actually post that you guys were so keen on removing it?
TOSSPUT NAZI REGIME DELETE THE JOURNAL SAYS KROSAN BAD NOT GIVE AN RESPONSE OMG
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