ESL CB think about this and how will you solve it?

by BrCh • 19 Jan 2010, 21:24 • Journals
Currently there is a wave of we want no pb servers.
OK nice and well but how can you do that?

some et history:

1) Etpro was required
2) Etpro got spoofable so we went to take the pbguids
3) now we dont want pb on servers

problem!!

How can we check in a offi match if the players we are facing are the correct ones?
if pb is off how can we check the guids?


You may flame me as a player but i talk about this as server admin and cheatbuster.
So instead of giving a decent alternative i think we are still in need of PB.

Now your opions!

I know many ppl are lazy in this game and so do many teams also but i am for fairplay and rules so for some reason i wanna know if oppos dont break rules and if the no pb gets in then you welcome not only rulebrakes but also the big wave of cheaters.
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kartez 19 Jan 2010, 21:25
ip maybe
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BrCh 19 Jan 2010, 21:27
and how you gonna do that?
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Seanza 19 Jan 2010, 21:28
Server logs.
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BrCh 19 Jan 2010, 21:30
problem match is already played then
and most admins are not up for changins results so oftend cause of logs.
Also ss of pb guids are best material to prove if it is the correct player or not.
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Seanza 19 Jan 2010, 21:32
Yeah, but they will have to review the rule about appealing after the game, imo.
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ag0n 19 Jan 2010, 21:32
No shit sherlock? How will you cross this data with cb/esl/cf?

=)
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Seanza 19 Jan 2010, 21:34
Teams must upload server logs, just like they upload end-game screenshots.

: )
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ag0n 19 Jan 2010, 21:35
So, cb/esl/cf should recruit 5000 extra admins just to do this kind of work?
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BrCh 19 Jan 2010, 21:36
question how you gonna detect a log that is edited by server admin?
second most teams dont got server ftp acces so they cant get to the logs how will they do that then?
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kartez 19 Jan 2010, 22:04
dunno maybe new global cfg or release of etpro ( to add ip when you type /cheaters or smth like in anti-pro, maybe with some hidden numer ( last number) )
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Seanza 19 Jan 2010, 22:50
Nice idea : )
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sylvester 19 Jan 2010, 22:51
Et isnt supported on ETPRO side anymore
creator of etpro wont give code out to someone else --> no new version

so...

:D
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kartez 19 Jan 2010, 22:58
i think he just have to speak a bit with foxdie(creator of anti-pro) and foxdie will give him his code or file to get ip when you type /cheaters, and i think bani(creator of etpro) can do it in some weeks, because he looks like experienced + foxdie's files & experience, they can do it easily maybe.
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risee 19 Jan 2010, 23:43
dynamic maybe?
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kartez 20 Jan 2010, 00:36
first number will nearly same, and with his ip, they can check if thats the same player or not ( pbbans, games violations, but server streaming admin status is needed :[ )

or what about smth to log in before join a serv to be authed? :o

dunno rly :-|
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skyz 19 Jan 2010, 21:29
i have no problem with pb
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BrCh 19 Jan 2010, 21:29
same here
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Thomm 19 Jan 2010, 21:30
Just don´t play against random-polaksguys :)
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Havoc 19 Jan 2010, 21:32
If it's an offcial, both clans should discuss wheter to have no pb or pb. If both agree for no pb then no pb. If one wants pb and the other no pb then pb shall remain being played.
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kafux 19 Jan 2010, 21:32
rumours came up that esl aequitas 2.0 will be released quite soon xD
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JeyAem 19 Jan 2010, 23:10
so we will make an etpro mod for cs and play with aequitas then ?
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kafux 20 Jan 2010, 00:04
do it and i will make a comeback as player :D
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mst 19 Jan 2010, 21:39
Does anybody except Killerboy check guids nowadays?
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Huib 19 Jan 2010, 21:39
Just load 1 sec the 3on3 global WITH PB! /pb_plist! screenshot!

load other config, and you are done!

np for help!
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GoodGuyGary 19 Jan 2010, 21:39
[21:35:01] [infect`] in the middle of game
[21:35:04] [infect`] just disconnect
[21:35:08] [infect`] other player comes
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BrCh 19 Jan 2010, 21:40
first pb from server i dont think you can doe /pb_pblist.
second if one drops out how you gonna do a recheck then?
load the cfg again to check and reload the no pb cfg?
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BrCh 19 Jan 2010, 21:39
some use mecs so they dont have to forfeit lose so either way they break the rules then.
and if we cant check guids they will get away with it so this is why we kinde still need pb m8 ;)
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KipzZ 19 Jan 2010, 22:58
using a merc isnt breaking the rules if the opponent agree
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BrCh 20 Jan 2010, 00:09
but there is the problem most ppl say they dont got a merc when it is in fact a merc posing as a lineup guy.

and dont say that hardly happens cause it does happen
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Bartichello 20 Jan 2010, 19:22
ye it is... using merc is against the rules whether they agree or not...
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KipzZ 20 Jan 2010, 19:57
Yeh in CB, but ESL allow it, thats one reason why its better
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Eddo 19 Jan 2010, 21:39
pb on -> connect -> guidcheck -> pb off -> restart map -> start
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BrCh 19 Jan 2010, 21:41
read comment above ;)

PS: imo you have to restart the server everytime to do pb on or off.
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Gifted 19 Jan 2010, 22:05
just vote the correct config & revote the map. Thats all!
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BrCh 19 Jan 2010, 22:34
then your still with the prob that if one drops out and one reconnect you cant check if it is the same guy.
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zAAba 19 Jan 2010, 22:26
JOIIN TO SERVER --> VOTE GLOBAL 3ON3 PB CONFIG --> CHECK GUIDS --->VOTE GLOBAL 3ON3 NOPB
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BrCh 19 Jan 2010, 22:34
then your still with the prob that if one drops out and one reconnect you cant check if it is the same guy.
how you gonna do that then?
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zAAba 20 Jan 2010, 10:08
u need to wait for them
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$U$UMU 19 Jan 2010, 22:10
hoi Malta brChBoy
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KipzZ 19 Jan 2010, 22:12
Before match starts, put a pb config on do pb_plist then change it back, why is that so hard?
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BrCh 19 Jan 2010, 22:35
then your still with the prob that if one drops out and one reconnect you cant check if it is the same guy.
how you gonna do that then?
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KipzZ 19 Jan 2010, 22:38
That hardly happens
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BrCh 19 Jan 2010, 22:39
lolz it hapend oftend then you think
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sylvester 19 Jan 2010, 22:38
to all the guys who say
"load pb config, check guids, then swap it back to non pb"
youll know what i do then?
ill push the reset button in middle of the game --> i drop
i reconnect with other key (YOU CAN NEVER CHECK IT WITHOUT RESTARTING THE MATCH)
and i put a bot on
lets play

gg noobs, you finnally succeeded to screw up the game :)
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Nub 19 Jan 2010, 22:59
"load pb config, check guids, then swap it back to non pb"
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BrCh 20 Jan 2010, 00:09
i noticed your to lazy to read the rest in here so let me help you out.

"then your still with the prob that if one drops out and one reconnect you cant check if it is the same guy.
how you gonna do that then? "
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Nub 20 Jan 2010, 00:11
"load pb config, check guids, then swap it back to non pb"
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BrCh 20 Jan 2010, 00:18
Read my comment again and get the problem.

Unless you wanna do cfg reloading in the middle of the map to check if the guy connecting is the same lad.

and if you still dont get the problem then it is time to go to bed for you
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Nub 20 Jan 2010, 00:25
"load pb config, check guids, then swap it back to non pb"
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