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counter terrorists win!

in soviet holland you blow up terrorists

counter terrorists win!

blame rassah

White dress? :D

Islam is really a peace religion but some guys just tend to get manipulated by the right-winged parties. And obviously you're one of them.

you ever see guys wihtout a religion blowing up things for their faith in ''nothing''.
You saw the respons on by the islam about the danish cartoons... PEACE!

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yeah right Christians have always been friendly! There was no inquisition!

Those people in the middle east + some other places that believe those extremistic ragers that call themselfs "islamic warriors" or some other shit just listen to them because they have 0 education. they cant read nor write let alone think reasonably.

thus by just giving them the chance to read you can tell them how to interpret the Koran which is basically exactly the thing they need for their brainless army of idiots.

just dont blame the religion. not because i like the religion, simply because it's wrong.

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@ yeah right Christians have always been friendly! There was no inquisition!

I never mentioned that christians are friendly.. Im not one myself, so i consider this comment as misplaced (A).

@ rest

You are ofcourse right that the outcasts are the one causing trouble. Not the religion, but the people who interprent the religion wrong and use it for their own war.
But atm the islam causes the most trouble in the world.. And thats quite a fact.

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well since "islam" is not a person i wouldn't say it causes most of the trouble.

better take a shot at "money" or "weapons" (of all kinds).

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Don't try to compare things which have happend hundreds of years ago with the situation today. Unlike Middle Easterners or Muslims, Europeans (mostly) grew past the ridiculous idea of religion.

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Actually you don't know the Danish system at all - Muslims has always had some kind of hate towards the "The Danish people's party" which has discriminated muslim's since 1992 here I Denmark.

If you only knew what they have done towards the Muslim people you would totally change your mind.

And about that blowing stuff you're talking about.
In the Koran it has always been said that muslim's have to respect other religions and that has been like that over over many Hundreds of years, even in the ages when the Arabs went on conquering - people still had the choice to pick between Islam and their religion.

Just cause some retards blow themselves up doesn't mean everyone is like that. According to your age here at CF you should really know that by now but Hey not everyone is as well-educated, wise, and clever by the age of 21. :-)

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powned him!

*HIGH FIVE*

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people didnt had the choice to pick between islam and other religions. from what i know its they gave them a choice to pick for the islam or either die. it was like that to make the islam bigger (you had a word for that but i only know it in dutch language)

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They did have the right to pick the religion they wanted, but unfortunately they did want the "other religions" to pay more taxes.

And the word you're looking for is "expanding" :D

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you do have to admit though there is varying degrees of Muslims and their attitudes to other religions. Also I was in Bosnia 2 years ago for 3 weeks. I was amazed at the relaxed attitude of the Muslims there, and about 90% of the population are Muslims. The men were almost alcoholics and the girls were scantily dressed in mini skirts etc..

They are building many Mosques in Germany, one now in Cologne where they planned the minarets to be higher than the Cathedral here!. But i have to sometimes ask myself, would they allow me to build a Christian church in Tehran?

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I like the fact that you've been in Bosnia, it actually amazes me, thus actually only about 40-50 percent are Muslims and the reason why most people are alcoholics is for me because of the war where people have lost everything they've got.

About that Church thing. I can say it like this Denmark is said to be the only country where there isn't a Mosque even tho we have over 200.000 Muslim's here.

I would say no to Tehran mainly because there are maybe only 0.2-0.3 percent Christians there.

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yea was in Bihać, we have friends from there who live in Germany...amazing place. Could not keep up with the beer drinking though, really from morning at breakfast onwards!

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Haha sounds like typical bosnians but the beer is cheep as hell tho :D

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I didnt know that denmark had such hate towards the islam, but i dont think thats the point here. Read my comment on malaki, for some more discussion.
And yeah, im Right... That doesnt mean im undereducated.
Quite a bad comparison

+ A radical opinon doenst mean i dont got any brains...

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You simply don't get do you?

You can't just pull something out of the hat saying something about the Cartoon's without knowing the story behind.

And yeah you're not right, you're making a fool out of yourself since you just can't see that you have failed with beating my argument. I mean sometimes in life you just need to face the fact that you've lost a discussion even tho you still believe that you have the best argument. I normally hate loosing by I however do have the god damn guts to tell myself and the people I'm discussing with that I've lost.

Not everything is evil - Cheer up man!

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Cant comment anything decent toward this post... You are to proud to react decent, so nvm.. thx for the discussion anyway.

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Yes I am proud and I believe most people are proud of themselves - I just don't get how a 21 year old guy thinks that because 0.3 percent of a religion tend to terror the world with some horrible stuff that you can automatically start to think that all people from that religion are like that.

I mean what's up? You start to end up like those Redneck's/Hillbillies from US/CA that tend to think that everything is evil if they don't fuck their cousins.

I mean the thing I'm trying to say is that it simply ain't LOGICAL what you're trying to say.

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@ yeah right Christians have always been friendly! There was no inquisition!

I never mentioned that christians are friendly.. Im not one myself, so i consider this comment as misplaced (A).

@ rest

You are ofcourse right that the outcasts are the one causing trouble. Not the religion, but the people who interprent the religion wrong and use it for their own war.
But atm the islam causes the most trouble in the world.. And thats quite a fact.

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What? doesn't give any sense at all.

Damn you're messed up kiddo

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deze heb je verloren testi :D
Islam was vroeger in heel tolerante religie, Bagdad was vroeger een wereldstad waar joden, christenen en islamieten vredig samenleefden. Intellectuele hoofdstad iig van het midden oosten. En er waren daar revolutionaire (islamitische) denkers.... (ik praat wel over zo'n 1000 jaar geleden maar ja :D)
Maar goed, het is de onopgeleide massa in de islamitische landen die wordt gemanipuleerd door radicale machtsgeile dictators. Maar kijk bijvoorbeeld naar Iran, daar heb je nu student protesten tegen het regime, het begint bij opleiding!

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I'm as left as it gets, but I've yet to see the purpose of religion other than that it causes tremendous pain and losses now and in the past.

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That's your opinion - I think religion is great. :-)

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It's not my opinion it's what I see written down in history books and present day conflicts. You say religion has not been the cause of a lot of pain, more than anything else in life?

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I'm saying that religion is something people can choice to believe in, and for some it's their passion because they really believe that there is something up there.

Religion sometimes make people find themselves and realized that life is too short to make crimes but to enjoy it and help other people to realize that not everything is evil.

I would say that religion has helped people far more than it has destroyed.

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Helped in what?

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No one fucking believes all muslims want to kill every non-muslim, all we ever fucking hear and see though is Islamitic people blowing up shit (or try to) and I have never seen a Jew with a bomb strapped around his waist trying to blow something up here in Europe.

Ofcourse it's wrong to say that all muslims are bad people, but saying that Islam is a religion of peace and that's the end of that is a crap argument too.

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Well that's because you get manipulated by nowadays media. If you ever read something in the Koran you would notice how peaceful it really is.

Most Muslim's don't even consider Osama and co. as muslims but more like terrorist just like you consider them to be.

Islam is a peace religion just like most religion's, nothing wrong with that and it isn't a crap argument but hey you have a lot to see in the world - Try take a trip to Turkey and you would see how open and loving the people are. Thats the meaning of Islam that we all respect each other, don't do stupid things and love each other not that we go on bomb others and manipulate others.

The thing I'm trying to say that the real Islam ain't the real Islam you see in the media.

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Well, we don't care what's written down theoretically in some kind of magic book, it's a fact that it's not like, like it's written down in there (Or it is, since there are many contradictory things written down in the Quran.). The real world is brutal and there is struggle because of religions and it's mostly about Muslims.

Just because you don't want to face that fact, that does not mean it's wrong.

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I may have been a bit harsh here but that's mainly because It really pisses me off why some people tend to think that most Muslim's are like that. Especially when you're from a well-educated country and you're over the age of 20.

I just don't get it.

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Well I don't think all Muslims are terrorists, that's for sure.
But I for my part consider Islam itself already inherently incombatible with and foreign to Europe. Just doesn't fit our system of values and our thinking.

My 2 Cents on that issue.

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Well don't really know what to say to but I'll give it a try. :P

That's your opinion :D

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QuoteIn the Koran it has always been said that muslim's have to respect other religions and that has been like that over over many Hundreds of years, even in the ages when the Arabs went on conquering - people still had the choice to pick between Islam and their religion.

Still they were discriminated against, they were forced to wear special cloths to recognize them on the streets, they weren't allowed to wear their religious signs and they weren't allowed to do anything concerning state affairs.

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At least they didn't get slaughtered :-)

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Oh wow, great advantage. Rather die free than to be a slave.

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Tell me, what are you trying to say? That I lied about Islam not respecting other religions?

Give me something straight instead of something about killing yourself.

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I didn't say you lied, but you didn't tell the whole story. That's it.

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So you want me to tell the whole history about how the arabs treated other people during their expanding era?

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Oh man, I was just talking about the fact that you said 'they were allowed to pick between Islam and their religion', which alone makes one think 'hm seems like it wasn't that bad'. But in fact it was, or let's say it was 'less positive' than you tend to think if that's politcal correct enough.

Stop accusing others of having no arguments when in fact you haven't got any valid ones. Doesn't make you look overly intelligent.

We can talk about that issue later if you want, I'm off here for now.

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As I said before I may have been a bit harsh but again the things the arabs did back then are far better than what the Christians did in the medieval crusades.

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Well, that may be the truth, but as I said before I don't really care what the situation 1400 (900) years ago was like, since we live in the present.

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didnt read all the other comments.. maybe it was said allready
but if im right the koran says smth about "when you die - you will come into the heaven" .. and those guys who blow him/herself up obviously thinks theyll get into the heaven too..

people who dont have to lose anything.. cos they dont have anything.. will trust those guys who tell them that theyll get into heaven when they blow himself up e.g. al kaida

dunno if its right.. just spoke about it in school

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It does say about the "holy warrior" thingy but it still depends on how you read it.

For example blowing the twin towers up really shows how far and fucked up people can read it.

Killing thousands of innocent people that I believe don't know wherever the Muslim's where black people or people with a special religion was one big showoff how insane and messed up "muslims" can read stuff.

As I said before some people aren't worth calling Muslims.

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no such thing as a peaceful religion

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Hi raptus

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hi idiot

edit: forgot to add, hi proficio

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Proficio is not here at the moment.

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ok then,

hi slovenian guy that adi stole this account from?

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Lol, that's where i live, i just woke up so i didnt knew yet

Quotebut atleast the bomb is found now...

The whole point is that they have not found a bomb

NS say they did

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Geen problemen mee zolang het maar in Brabant en co gebeurd ;O)

Yeah we got that shit defused! Over!

Couldn't go to college because of it, spent one and a half hours at Tilburg station -_-

How can you judge a whole religion based on one faggot?

LOL you easily can! Like Wilders says : Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a Muslim and now you see that its a true fact! :DDDDDD

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That doesn't even make sense.
That's the same as if I said : not all Germans were Nazis but all Nazis were German.

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not rly, coz there are also austrain/italian/dutch nazi's etc:)

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Tried for over an hour to get past Den Bosch... I failed and am at home now, on my second day of my study :P

world peace is near when every1 stops believing.

yeh I lold when I heard it.. couldn't take the train bcuz of that joke! he claimed to be Bin Laden (according to a journalist)

These guys aren't muslims in my opinion

Well, I don't think your opinion makes them change their minds about blowing themselves up for Allah.

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I know :D

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Who are "them"? You referring to the Muslim's or terrorists?

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Muslim terrorists.

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cya@lan

:D

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TYPICAL MUSLIM REPLY

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TYPICAL HINDU REPLY

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HINDU'S CAN'T SPELL

EDIT: O SURE PUT ON BOSNIAN FLAG

YOU ARE VERY COOL AND SPECIAL

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My Mommy says I'm special cause I drive in Minibus :)

Oh yeah I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't a one :D

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My ex is more known on CrossFire than me :(

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pic or never happened :)

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cya at lan :d

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I'll bring my anti-muslim equipment.

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it was you

lol egoquit

Nice tactic.

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