Building new pc NEED HELP!!!

by xHiZo • 31 Mar 2010, 12:49 • Journals
Hi guys, im building new pc for this summer.So Im in need of your opinions, because I cant decide between specs :(

1) For CPU i am thinking about i7-930(1366 so said best socket) or i7-860(1156 latest socket) Cant decide coz they are both said to be really good.

2)What GPU? im thinking what to buy: XFX/Sapphire Radeon HD5850 1024MB 2 Cards CrossFire OR XFX/Sapphire Radeon HD5970 w/o CrossFire? Both prices are kinda same like 10 euro difference. Im really confused.

3) Would be good if someone could recomend me good pc case

Write ur opinions mates
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TEKN0 31 Mar 2010, 13:50
Why would you want to build a PC in the summer?! :D
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xHiZo 31 Mar 2010, 13:51
coz im not going to any trip this summer :( So im going to no life prolly
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TEKN0 31 Mar 2010, 13:52
Aww okie ;)
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nAbio 31 Mar 2010, 14:57
there are still better ways to enjoy the summer dude :D wtf
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pala 31 Mar 2010, 13:54
Because some of us are ugly
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AM1G0 31 Mar 2010, 13:51
building PC requires a lot of wood and isolation tape.
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dualinity 31 Mar 2010, 13:54
will morning wood suffice?
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strN 31 Mar 2010, 13:52
i5 please
hd5870 is enough
random case with fans
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ETNiES 31 Mar 2010, 15:51
i5 plz nigga! -.-
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strN 31 Mar 2010, 15:56
phenom x4 965be plz
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arca 31 Mar 2010, 13:52
1) If you're only going to use it for gaming, go for a Core i3 540, as you won't need more than 2 cores

2) dno

3) Antec Three Hundred
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xHiZo 31 Mar 2010, 13:53
there are some games that already using 4 cores
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frozz. 31 Mar 2010, 13:56
give
me
a
fucking
break

arca is right
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mythos 31 Mar 2010, 14:09
no he's not, there are a lot of new games which take advance of quadcore cpus. that's the reason why the Q6600 is better for new games than the E8400 for example.
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rsp 31 Mar 2010, 15:03
For most games that are played nowadays the E8000-series are the best. But buying a 2-core system now is just silly if it's for playing modern and upcoming games. Four cores also speed up the desktop working and programs such as winrar so there really is no point in buying "old" technology.
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Lukos 31 Mar 2010, 15:42
Plz...

Play for example BFBC2 with e8600 and after that with some random Quad Core ;).
Dual core will get raped.

Multi core is the future....
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rsp 31 Mar 2010, 16:21
Read my comment again and then delete yours! ;)

e: And please... there are a lot of games beyond *hypehype* bfbc2 which are vastly played e.g. CoD4 and MW2 and someone might buy a new PC just to play CS:S in which E8500 is much better choice than Q6600.
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Zw3i 31 Mar 2010, 13:54
nvidia>>>>>>>>>>ati
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xHiZo 31 Mar 2010, 13:55
No way!
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Zw3i 31 Mar 2010, 13:56
wat? ati sux omfg!!!!
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xHiZo 31 Mar 2010, 13:57
No! Ati > Nvidia ! :D
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bAnga 31 Mar 2010, 13:58
AMD + ATI
INTEL + GEFORCE/NVIDIA
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xHiZo 31 Mar 2010, 13:58
Lol INTEL + ATI fits perfect as well
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bAnga 31 Mar 2010, 19:45
No.

ATI will run better on AMD and nVidia better on INTEL.

:-)
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Zw3i 31 Mar 2010, 13:59
AMD + NVIDIA
INTEL + NVIDIA

:D
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kYmo 2 Apr 2010, 03:23
AMD = Nvidia = Uber FAIL!
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rsp 31 Mar 2010, 15:06
Can you give reasons for your view?
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k1kzzzzz 31 Mar 2010, 13:59
image: top
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xHiZo 31 Mar 2010, 13:59
how much it costs at u?
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k1kzzzzz 31 Mar 2010, 14:02
dont know, too much for me
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xHiZo 31 Mar 2010, 14:03
450 euro here kinda a bit cheaper than 2x 5850
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rsp 31 Mar 2010, 15:11
Check my comment below.
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Henk 31 Mar 2010, 14:03
got me one of those badboys aswell :D
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k1kzzzzz 31 Mar 2010, 14:06
you wish :D
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Henk 31 Mar 2010, 14:07
no you wish i got it :)
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k1kzzzzz 31 Mar 2010, 14:08
I wish that I can have it ;:D
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Henk 31 Mar 2010, 14:12
powns and it's not that much more then for example a 5870
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rsp 31 Mar 2010, 15:10
I feel sorry for you. :(
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rsp 31 Mar 2010, 15:10
That card is a freaking barbeque grill. Costs insane amount of money about as much as the HD 5970 and has slightly more performance than the HD 5870. It also overheats during heavy duty processing without any modifications. And it's made with old manufacturing techique. The GTX 200-series were somewhat good cards. The new ones are just utter crap compared to the competitor.
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k1kzzzzz 31 Mar 2010, 15:31
ok. i have no idea about computerstuff im a noob in it
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AlienWare 31 Mar 2010, 14:00
:Intel CoreTM i7-965 Extreme Edition (3.2GHz, 8MB Shared Cache)
6GB DDR3 1066MHz (3 x 2GB DIMMs)
Intel® X58 Chipset
Dual NVidia GeForce 9800 GX2 1024MB, SLI . Kokku 2048mb. Eraldi • PhysiX graphics protsessor
Meediasead PCI: 1 Slot PCIe x1: 2 Slots PCIe x16 Gen2: 3 Slots
dual Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000Base-T)
EPA compliant 80+ 1KW power supply on all configurations
: 7.1 channel High Definition Audio
: ees: USB 2.0 (x2), 1394a (x1), (1) headphone out, (1) microphone in. Taga: S/PDIF Audio Out (Coax and Optical), microphone in, line-in, line-out, center/LFE, Rear Surround, Side Surround, USB 2.0 (x6), 1394a (x1), eSATA (x1), PS/2 Mouse and Keyboard, Gigabit Ethernet (x2)

costs : 4741 eur
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xHiZo 31 Mar 2010, 14:01
yes i rlly can afford it -.-
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AlienWare 31 Mar 2010, 14:03
i can sell it for u 3500
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k1kzzzzz 31 Mar 2010, 14:04
QuoteDual NVidia GeForce 9800 GX2 1024MB,



sucks man, really sucks
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xHiZo 31 Mar 2010, 14:06
prolly would get dual gtx 280 for same price
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k1kzzzzz 31 Mar 2010, 14:06
yes i also think so
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AlienWare 31 Mar 2010, 14:08
u can always change it :)
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k1kzzzzz 31 Mar 2010, 14:09
better change it to 5850 or 480 nvidia
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rsp 31 Mar 2010, 15:12
Better toss GTX480 to the nearest sea or glacier.
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xHiZo 31 Mar 2010, 14:08
as skeit said 6GB DDR3 1066MHz (3 x 2GB DIMMs)

Im getting 6GB DDR3 1600mhz

Edit:

Intel CoreTM i7-965 Extreme Edition (3.2GHz, 8MB Shared Cache)

Why would u need that? Its fucking waste of euros. You can always OC the i7-930 to even better clock
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AlienWare 31 Mar 2010, 14:09
good for u :)
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xHiZo 31 Mar 2010, 14:13
Since 6 cores came out at markets 4 cores CPUs should price down
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Heselaittaa 31 Mar 2010, 14:34
i7 860 (@ 2,8ghz) costs like max 250 euros. I have it atm @ 4 Ghz and works fine (max temps @ all 4 cores ~75 celcius) and it rolls ~10 secs @ superpi1m. So why pay extra for sum better cores since this shit gets better scores than those 500$ i7's

E: infos from my 3dmark vantage test
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5845/3dmarkvantagescorecpu4g.jpg
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rsp 31 Mar 2010, 15:13
What cooler you have with it?
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Heselaittaa 31 Mar 2010, 15:17
coolink corator DS
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zafoga 31 Mar 2010, 14:35
just got my pc :3

i7 920 + 3x2gb corsair 1600mhz + hd5870 as there was no fkin hd5850 avi on the market

my cpu didnt reach 20% useage yet ... feels good man
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Heselaittaa 31 Mar 2010, 14:37
went to our local overclock store and got 5870 @ same day :)
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zafoga 31 Mar 2010, 14:38
well wasted 420 eu instead of the planed 240 eu for the gfxcard :[
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Heselaittaa 31 Mar 2010, 14:41
370 e for me and its just killin' everything <3 waiting to get better drivers where clocks are not limited to 900/1300 :x and when i need more power (maybe next year) i just buy second 5870 with ~250 euros. =)
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zafoga 31 Mar 2010, 14:46
well i guess i need a new case for 2x 5870 ....i didnt own a desktop pc for like 5 years now ... always using notebooks.. the last card i put in my old pc was a ati 9600pro so ye i was fkin suprised how huge the gfxcard is ... its HUUUGE :3
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Heselaittaa 31 Mar 2010, 14:49
yeah thats true :D i have Define R2 Titanium case (207.4 x 440 x 521.2mm) and Hdd spaces are like 1,5 cm away from getting contact with my 5870 :P and the scary bit is that 5970 is even longer :D
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xHiZo 31 Mar 2010, 14:55
u need full tower for 5970
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Heselaittaa 31 Mar 2010, 14:58
yap or case where hdd's are placed little different- than normal : d
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rsp 31 Mar 2010, 14:59
The Radeon HD 5970 has two HD 5870 GPUs and therefore beats HD 5850 CrossFire hands down. I you want to have two separate graphics cards in CF I suggest you buy LGA1366 because those motherboards have support for two 16x PCI-e slots running full speed. Altough crossfire with 8x PCI-e just has ~5% drop in performance. Personally I would go for the LGA1156 an buy either the HD 5970 or HD 5870.
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Heselaittaa 31 Mar 2010, 15:15
actually its 2x5850 (comparing the clocks etc) but yeah fastest shit e:_ONTHE_ market =)

e: muropaketin sanoin; "ATI Radeon HD 5970:n käyttämät Cypress-grafiikkapiirit sisältävät saman määrän Stream-prosessoreita kuin ATI Radeon HD 5870 -mallissa, mutta kellotaajuudet vastaavat 5850-mallia. Suorituskyky ei siis vastaa täysin kahta ATI Radeon HD 5870 -näytönohjainta CrossFireX-konfiguraatiossa, joten AMD varmisti ettei kuluttajia johdeta harhaan 5870 X2 -mallinimellä."
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rsp 31 Mar 2010, 15:20
Too bad I was hasty and bought a second hand 4870 x2. The noise is overwhelming when booting or playing e.g. MW2. A 5870 would've been perfect but they were so hard to get at the time. :(
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Heselaittaa 31 Mar 2010, 15:22
just walked to jimmspc and got 5870 right away :D lucky number slevin
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elektronischetanzmusik 31 Mar 2010, 15:42
SCHEISSO? DEM GIBT ES NUR EINMAL!
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blackboy 31 Mar 2010, 15:48
1. i7 930 1366.
2. would recommend XFX/Sapphire Radeon HD5850 1024MB 2 Cards CrossFire then HD 5970.
both together work faster then one card which is a bit better.Et is just supporting 1 gcard but the 5850 is fast enough anyways.
3. like peter pan said,random case with fans. try to get one which is a little big larger then needed cause of heat etc. ;)
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ETNiES 31 Mar 2010, 16:08
Go for the 920 over the 930, the 930 is more expensive and the only difference is the multiplier that you probably won't use anyway.

Graphics i'd go for a 5870 if I could afford it, wouldn't bother with the 5970 its just overkill and the 5870 will run everything you want at highest settings, then if you want you can crossfire later on.

Case i'd go for the Coolermaster CM-690 II, it has side mounted HD's, vents in the bottom to add fans, and lots of space for big coolers and long graphics cards, I went for the Antec 902 and it lacks some of those things. Do not skimp on your case either, you will probably be overclocking and if you buy a shit case your airflow will suck and you'll have hightemps.
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kYmo 2 Apr 2010, 03:20
1. i5 750 for gaming, don't waste your money on a top end quad core i7.
2. XFX Radeon HD 5970 shits all over x2 5850's and is also is less hungry for fuel.
3. Full Tower: Silverstone rv02 Mid Tower: CoolerMaster StormScout(My Case) or Antec 902
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